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PJfanwillneverleave1

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brianlux

I'm totally in favor of feminism. Heck, I'd even like to try being a woman for a while if I could do it magically and turn back at will. I would not suffer in a matriarchal society, however, an equal but distinct is probably the best way to go. You know, the Mars and Venus thing.

ehbacon

I do not support equality, neither do most people probably.

I support egalitarianism, the state of equal opportunity, instead of equal status.


That being said i do not believe we live in an egalitarian society, and i would like to change that.

brianlux

^^^

"egalitarianism"

Perfection!

ldent42

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

PJfanwillneverleave1

ldent42 said:

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.

HesCalledDyer

You made a thread which you & I can agree on! There is hope for us yet, my friend!

blueandwhite

The Ghostbusters remake was going to bomb whether the primary cast is female or not. Even Ghostbusters 2 was a pale imitation of the original. This simply looks like a slapstick knockoff of the first film with 1990s special effects. Hollywood needs to stop making poor remakes of 1980s movies and start looking at making more original films rather than milking outdated properties for all they're worth. No actors could make this steaming pile of tripe look good.

ldent42

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

ldent42 said:

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.

i have no idea how that's relevant.

dignin

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Exactly what I was thinking

PJfanwillneverleave1

I started this thread because I was reading some entertainment news a few days ago and there were a lot of headlines and such about this movie being a feminist act.
It brought up a good point that if an original movie with an all woman cast was remade with an all male crew it would be sexist.
Feminism is great and any fool who regards a woman as anything less than equal is an asshole sexist pig. I truly believe people are equal. (Except for some women.....I kid)

Anyhow, sometimes a feminist statement can backfire and this movie is an example. Casting all women to replace the original all male cast is weird.

mickeyrat

Except the cast isnt all female

edit to add neither was the original all male.

Jason P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcNhrNf6hQ

PJfanwillneverleave1

mickeyrat said:

Except the cast isnt all female

edit to add neither was the original all male.

Stop being obtuse. The ghostbusters.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/All-Female-Ghostbusters-Movie-Casts-Melissa-McCarthy-3-Other-Comediennes-69424.html

mickeyrat

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mickeyrat said:

Except the cast isnt all female

edit to add neither was the original all male.

Stop being obtuse. The ghostbusters.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/All-Female-Ghostbusters-Movie-Casts-Melissa-McCarthy-3-Other-Comediennes-69424.html

Then make accurate statements to begin with.

brianlux

The idea of talking about feminism seems great but couldn't we have based it around something more relevant than (no matter how good or bad it is) a move like Ghostbusters?

PJfanwillneverleave1

brianlux said:

The idea of talking about feminism seems great but couldn't we have based it around something more relevant than (no matter how good or bad it is) a move like Ghostbusters?

At least it gets the conversation out there!

PJ_Soul

dignin said:

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Yeah really. But come on now.... none of us are surprised, are we?

catefrances

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

ldent42 said:

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.

no.. its gonna bomb regardless of gender because theyre trying to remake a classic the moment bill murray declined to be involved in any sort of remake was the moment film makers should have said hmmm perhaps this is a bad idea.

PJfanwillneverleave1

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

ldent42 said:

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.

no.. its gonna bomb regardless of gender because theyre trying to remake a classic the moment bill murray declined to be involved in any sort of remake was the moment film makers should have said hmmm perhaps this is a bad idea.

yes, I agree. Remakes of any classic at best are a bad idea.
Doing it with a feminist agenda? - bad idea also.

catefrances

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

ldent42 said:

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.

no.. its gonna bomb regardless of gender because theyre trying to remake a classic the moment bill murray declined to be involved in any sort of remake was the moment film makers should have said hmmm perhaps this is a bad idea.

yes, I agree. Remakes of any classic at best are a bad idea.
Doing it with a feminist agenda? - bad idea also.

is it really being made with a 'feminist agenda' or did the studio just think hey! lets make it with a bunch of chicks seeings how bill wants nothing to do with it?? as far as I see it, casting the leads as females is simply a gimmick... theres nothing feminist about that.

PJfanwillneverleave1

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

ldent42 said:

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.

no.. its gonna bomb regardless of gender because theyre trying to remake a classic the moment bill murray declined to be involved in any sort of remake was the moment film makers should have said hmmm perhaps this is a bad idea.

yes, I agree. Remakes of any classic at best are a bad idea.
Doing it with a feminist agenda? - bad idea also.

is it really being made with a 'feminist agenda' or did the studio just think hey! lets make it with a bunch of chicks seeings how bill wants nothing to do with it?? as far as I see it, casting the leads as females is simply a gimmick... theres nothing feminist about that.

ok, maybe agenda was the wrong word.
But you can't help but scratch your head why the cast is women.
It would be like changing the teenage mutant ninja turtles to women, would people question why? - I think so.
Gimmick works for the word I was looking for but it will bomb because of it.

catefrances

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

ldent42 said:

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.

no.. its gonna bomb regardless of gender because theyre trying to remake a classic the moment bill murray declined to be involved in any sort of remake was the moment film makers should have said hmmm perhaps this is a bad idea.

yes, I agree. Remakes of any classic at best are a bad idea.
Doing it with a feminist agenda? - bad idea also.

is it really being made with a 'feminist agenda' or did the studio just think hey! lets make it with a bunch of chicks seeings how bill wants nothing to do with it?? as far as I see it, casting the leads as females is simply a gimmick... theres nothing feminist about that.

ok, maybe agenda was the wrong word.
But you can't help but scratch your head why the cast is women.
It would be like changing the teenage mutant ninja turtles to women, would people question why? - I think so.
Gimmick works for the word I was looking for but it will bomb because of it.

the fetishisation of women continues.


its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

PJfanwillneverleave1

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

ldent42 said:

The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.

no.. its gonna bomb regardless of gender because theyre trying to remake a classic the moment bill murray declined to be involved in any sort of remake was the moment film makers should have said hmmm perhaps this is a bad idea.

yes, I agree. Remakes of any classic at best are a bad idea.
Doing it with a feminist agenda? - bad idea also.

is it really being made with a 'feminist agenda' or did the studio just think hey! lets make it with a bunch of chicks seeings how bill wants nothing to do with it?? as far as I see it, casting the leads as females is simply a gimmick... theres nothing feminist about that.

ok, maybe agenda was the wrong word.
But you can't help but scratch your head why the cast is women.
It would be like changing the teenage mutant ninja turtles to women, would people question why? - I think so.
Gimmick works for the word I was looking for but it will bomb because of it.

the fetishisation of women continues.


its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
It's sad.

Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though

catefrances

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

the fetishisation of women continues.


its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
It's sad.

Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though

the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...

PJfanwillneverleave1

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

the fetishisation of women continues.


its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
It's sad.

Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though

the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...

Well said.
I don't know if it's a cultural or geographical thing for people to regard women as lesser but a woman with strong traits is a breath of fresh air.

rgambs

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

the fetishisation of women continues.


its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
It's sad.

Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though

the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...

There are so many men who are so insecure...it is just nuts.

JWPearl

rgambs said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

the fetishisation of women continues.


its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
It's sad.

Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though

the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...

There are so many men who are so insecure...it is just nuts.

i love insecure men
such a turn on

catefrances

rgambs said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

the fetishisation of women continues.


its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
It's sad.

Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though

the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...

There are so many men who are so insecure...it is just nuts.

there are so many people who are insecure. and theyre preyed upon by others just as insecure under the guise of strength. its a power thing.. perhaps an arsehole thing...

catefrances

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

catefrances said:

the fetishisation of women continues.


its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
It's sad.

Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though

the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...

Well said.
I don't know if it's a cultural or geographical thing for people to regard women as lesser but a woman with strong traits is a breath of fresh air.

its a cultural thing. its deeply embedded in the history of mankind. woman have been made the scapegoats for a shitload of crap throughout 'history'. all you gotta do is flip through the bible... or note how desperate men are to control female reproductive rights.