RIP Nancy Reagan

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    hedonist said:

    Shirred is like quone - you know, to QUONE something.

    (actually, shirred eggs are a real thing though I've never partaken)

    Quone: Fictional medical term, but can be used to mean something you have to do and can't remember the word to say.

    From Seinfeld!

    I had to look that one up.

    Two points, Hedo!!
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Hahaha - three back to you for your research efforts!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Thanks!! :smiley:
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    i never liked him, but i always thought she was a classy lady. i admired how she changed her position on stem cell research. even if the change was directly because that research could have potentially helped Ronnie. RIP Mrs Reagan.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    g under p said:

    She certainly seemed to have found her life partner now she shall join him. RIP.


    Peace

    They exhuming Ronny and putting Nancy in with him?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,820
    that's about as useful as a used fire extinguisher
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,842
    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    BS44325 said:

    Wobbie said:

    not a fan.

    "just say no" about the stupidest thing ever.

    How someone could think educating our children to "just say no" is the "stupidest thing ever" boggles the mind. We need far more of this and far less imprisonment.
    If only it was a simple (albeit ridiculously naive and unrealistic) educational message. Unfortunately the Reagan era drug war was accompanied by skyrocketing incarceration rates, institutionalized racism and government involvement in the drug trade ( to fund reagan's wars), and the rise of zero-credibility practise of using cops to educate kids on health issues (DARE). Old mother Reagan was the face of this disaster, and the main proponent of the hysteria that allowed all of this to happen. I have a hard time seeing her campaign as educational benevolence, as do many others apparently.
    I agree with you on a lot of those things...the war on drugs has been and still is a massive failure. The message of "just say no" though is not wrong, not naive and doesn't make you a supporter of the wider war on drugs by repeating it. Teaching kids not to use/abuse is and will always be important. Case in point...I tell my kids every day not to smoke...not to be peer pressured..."just say no" if you will. Now I don't doubt that they won't have a smoke at some point but I sure hope they don't become smokers. This goes with drugs as well...I've seen the needle and the damage done...just had a friend lose his battle with addiction. I know too many people who have been messed up by coke. Kids need to know that some drugs have inherent dangers and that saying no in social situations is ok. "Just say no" shouldn't be scoffed at...it's good parenting 101.
    Speaking for myself, I get what you're saying, BS and it's cool that you care for kids well being but I think kids are smarter than we give them credit. They see through little sayings like "just say no". And the saying is a form of denial by using the word, "just", like it's "simple" to avoid peer pressure.

    When I was 15 I started smoking because my friends though it was cool and I wanted to be accepted by them. My parents basically wanted me to "just say no". If they had explained that it really can be difficult to say no to your friends because you want to belong, if they had told me that if my friends rejected me for not smoking then maybe they weren't really my friends after all, if they had taken me to a hospital to meet a patient with throat cancer, or even just explained what that looks like (not a pretty sight), if they had just been open an honest I might not have ever smoked those nasty cancer sticks.

    I believe there's no "just" about it, that's all.
    I think that's fair because it certainly isn't simple. The point I am making is that as parents we should be having the conversation and include all those points you just mentioned above. Teach "no" with the caveat that we get "no" ain't always easy.
    the marketing campaign was simple. you can't have a drawn out explanation for the tagline. the message was exactly as stated above by Brian. parents/teachers were tasked with explaining it. the government was simply encouraging the conversation.

    that being said, if you raise confident children, it really is "just" that simple.
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