Trump

PJfanwillneverleave1

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Axelrod asked Reid what his message would be to Trump about Chinese businessmen in the U.S.
“Just give them a try,” Reid said.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

I just wish he could learn to speak in full sentences. Do that first and then he might be able to tackle things like science and math later. Just like how we teach kids in grade school.

My Gawd he stammers like an idiot doesn't he?

If the guy hadn't been born with the silver spoon... he'd have been a greasy, used car salesman in a shady lot somewhere (no offence to any greasy, used car salesman around here).

To the recent conversation... if his flip flopping on issues isn't the slightest bit disconcerting to the faithful (BS et al)... I don't know if anything ever could be for you folks.

He's absolutely not prepared for the task he's been elected to perform. Most could see that a long time ago.

I'm not sure if I'm the "faithful" as I never had faith in him to begin with. Nobody on here is paying attention to why he was voted in and what he will therefore be judged on. At some point all of you who have been wrong about everything for so long might want to star paying attention to those who were right.

Lol

Seriously?

Yes. This is essentially a group of people who said he would never get elected still repeating the same blather over and over again. You don't understand why he was elected and you don't understand what his voters are looking for. You are measuring him against an old template that the public just doesn't give a shit about anymore. In due time the man will either succeed or fail and he will face judgement when that time comes.

The reasons you offer only speak to a portion of his supporters: the majority of his supporters are not outraged opponents of the establishment. You keep blathering on about it- insisting people around here don't understand what you are insisting, but the fact is people do get that bloc of voters. They also acknowledge the obvious... which you consistently fail to do: the majority of his support came from simple folk that loved the idea of a wall... loved turning up the heat on Muslims... wanted to make America great again... feared Hillary through successful smear campaigning... etc.

The people that said he'd never get elected sorely under appreciated the level of stupidity and racism in the US.

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

I just wish he could learn to speak in full sentences. Do that first and then he might be able to tackle things like science and math later. Just like how we teach kids in grade school.

My Gawd he stammers like an idiot doesn't he?

If the guy hadn't been born with the silver spoon... he'd have been a greasy, used car salesman in a shady lot somewhere (no offence to any greasy, used car salesman around here).

To the recent conversation... if his flip flopping on issues isn't the slightest bit disconcerting to the faithful (BS et al)... I don't know if anything ever could be for you folks.

He's absolutely not prepared for the task he's been elected to perform. Most could see that a long time ago.

I'm not sure if I'm the "faithful" as I never had faith in him to begin with. Nobody on here is paying attention to why he was voted in and what he will therefore be judged on. At some point all of you who have been wrong about everything for so long might want to star paying attention to those who were right.

Lol

Seriously?

Yes. This is essentially a group of people who said he would never get elected still repeating the same blather over and over again. You don't understand why he was elected and you don't understand what his voters are looking for. You are measuring him against an old template that the public just doesn't give a shit about anymore. In due time the man will either succeed or fail and he will face judgement when that time comes.

The reasons you offer only speak to a portion of his supporters: the majority of his supporters are not outraged opponents of the establishment. You keep blathering on about it- insisting people around here don't understand what you are insisting, but the fact is people do get that bloc of voters. They also acknowledge the obvious... which you consistently fail to do: the majority of his support came from simple folk that loved the idea of a wall... loved turning up the heat on Muslims... wanted to make America great again... feared Hillary through successful smear campaigning... etc.

The people that said he'd never get elected sorely under appreciated the level of stupidity and racism in the US.

As someone who lives in a rustbelt county with 74% voter turnout and a 70% Trump victory, I am verifying this to be an accurate assessment.

I don't understand why you think you have a finger on the pulse of the American electorate in a way that those of us who live in Trump country don't BS.
The people you are making these valiant claims upon are apolitical or altogether ignorant. People with Benghazi signs in their yard, still to this day. People who say words like "raghead" and "sand n***er" and fear the end of the white race. The part you don't grasp is that this sort of ignorance isn't just a blue collar phenomenon, it is pervasive. The rotary club is the biggest bunch of racists and deplorables in the county, and they run the damn county! They lie, cheat, and steal in Trump fashion, but because they do it for profit in a right-wing way, it somehow makes them feel superior to the Clinton corruption which they would embrace amongst themselves.

JC29856

Go Beavers said:

JC29856 said:

If basis of calling trump racist is that trump at 27 along with his father settled a lawsuit about not renting to blacks, then that is a really really really bigly bigly bigly weak argument!
Serious, is there anything else? Like more concrete or more recent?

Why don't you lay out your requirements for determining if someone's racist, first?

Circular logic?

JC29856

Go Beavers said:

JC29856 said:

Go Beavers said:

JC29856 said:

If basis of calling trump racist is that trump at 27 along with his father settled a lawsuit about not renting to blacks, then that is a really really really bigly bigly bigly weak argument!
Serious, is there anything else? Like more concrete or more recent?

Why don't you lay out your requirements for determining if someone's racist, first?

That's your retort rebuttal?

Retort rebuttal? Confusion befuddle?

I'm more interested in people's resistance to acknowledging and discussing racism at this point, which is what you're doing. Trump's racism has been outlined in this thread. You're obviously not wanting to look at how racism applies to trump. Why is that?

Goal post moving?

vaggar99

How to know if you are racist:
wikihow.com/Tell-if-You-Are-a-Racist

vaggar99

What happens when you criticize ESP
https://youtu.be/xHgehfLmwIA

vaggar99

SNL Weekend Update
https://youtu.be/gFi3RGq9HFo

vaggar99

somebody just sent me a warning about creating threads relating to ESP. The person claims that mods will shut me down. Mods if you see this: go ahead. shut down my threads. show the PJ community that you and the band are fascists just like ESP. Do it. As if that $40 a year for the right to use this board and a shirt that never fits is so awesome.

vaggar99

The way the ESP and his people use a smart woman like Kayleigh McEnany to perpetuate their sick agenda is insidious. its unforgivable
https://youtu.be/4bayh_c-wuI
https://youtu.be/fvkCmHn5Jlg
https://youtu.be/U2OfjfEzK44

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

there shouldn't be quotas on elected officials. that makes no sense. "ok, mr smith, you won, but we need a black dude, so mr johnson, the seat is yours".

that GOP picture just goes to show, though, how few minority members/supporters they most likely have if they have no representatives.

but I believe, if officials are appointed by those elected, the appointees should have varying backgrounds/genders/ethnicities. to me it just makes sense.

But that isn't how better equality is reached in government and you know it. I found it insanely insulting when people tried to suggest this was happening when Trudeau made sure more women were in his cabinet. As though men who were better than the women were left out just because they were men. Total bullshit, because those women were clearly just as or more qualified than any male candidates that were available. The ASSUMPTION that more qualified people would be left out if you don't go with white men is ridiculous. It is also ridiculous to suppose that more equal representation of different groups in government isn't a positive thing. We're not talking about affirmative action here. We're talking about making sure that the diverse citizens are well-represented. Why some seem to think those two things are the same is beyond me. (this has strayed from who are the elected officials for the GOP to cabinet selection though, as you mentioned). That the voted officials are all white in the GOP just shows that the GOP only serves white people. If that weren't true, then there would be more non-white people running for the GOP, and more non-white people voting for them.

um, did you read my last sentence?

you can't disquality an ELECTED official because of the colour of his skin or their ethnicity *EDIT* or gender. if that's you are saying, I completely disagree with that. But you CAN appoint people of varying backgrounds.

HughFreakingDillon

vaggar99 said:

^^I still don't know where you stand on this guy

I am assuming this is sarcasm, but if not.........he said in one thread or another "trump is my jesus christ". that should be a hint........

HughFreakingDillon

vaggar99 said:

somebody just sent me a warning about creating threads relating to ESP. The person claims that mods will shut me down. Mods if you see this: go ahead. shut down my threads. show the PJ community that you and the band are fascists just like ESP. Do it. As if that $40 a year for the right to use this board and a shirt that never fits is so awesome.

doubtful they'll shut you down. they may shut down some of your threads as they are all essentially about the same thing. and depending on language used. you may get a warning. that's about it.

but I would advise against publicly challenging the mods/band and calling them potential fascists.

vaggar99

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

somebody just sent me a warning about creating threads relating to ESP. The person claims that mods will shut me down. Mods if you see this: go ahead. shut down my threads. show the PJ community that you and the band are fascists just like ESP. Do it. As if that $40 a year for the right to use this board and a shirt that never fits is so awesome.

doubtful they'll shut you down. they may shut down some of your threads as they are all essentially about the same thing. and depending on language used. you may get a warning. that's about it.

but I would advise against publicly challenging the mods/band and calling them potential fascists.

they will only be that if they try to shut down a single one of these threads. They are all valid to me as they are my attempt to organize the multiple paths that I see to getting rid of this sick fuck.

HughFreakingDillon

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

somebody just sent me a warning about creating threads relating to ESP. The person claims that mods will shut me down. Mods if you see this: go ahead. shut down my threads. show the PJ community that you and the band are fascists just like ESP. Do it. As if that $40 a year for the right to use this board and a shirt that never fits is so awesome.

doubtful they'll shut you down. they may shut down some of your threads as they are all essentially about the same thing. and depending on language used. you may get a warning. that's about it.

but I would advise against publicly challenging the mods/band and calling them potential fascists.

they will only be that if they try to shut down a single one of these threads. They are all valid to me as they are my attempt to organize the multiple paths that I see to getting rid of this sick fuck.

you call being against spamming, doing their job, as fascism??? it doesn't matter if you think they are all valid. it's spamming, plain and simple.

vaggar99

Steps for ESP extraction
1. Decide we want to get rid of him
2. Decide how to get rid of him
3. Decide what to do after we get rid of him

benjs

vaggar99 said:

Steps for ESP extraction
1. Decide we want to get rid of him
2. Decide how to get rid of him
3. Decide what to do after we get rid of him

1. You don't have consensus on that. Two million voters shy of 50% of eligible voters disagree with you at this point: how will you backtrack on the election process in existence since the birth of your nation and seen as the foundation of a democracy or federal republic?
2. You haven't provided any semblance of a solution to this. Grounds for dismissal must not be "he disgusts me", they must be rooted in a legal/constitutional objection. To assuage his supporters, it must be an undisputedly objective objection.
3. You certainly haven't provided a solution to this. If, somehow, you manage to come up with reasonable answers to your first two points in your unrealistic plan, you haven't spoken to why Clinton or Pence would be a better candidate. You also haven't spoken to how to get the acceptance of the People. Or how not to fan the flames of anarchy (since you'll need to refute election results and therefore refute the foundation of a democracy). Or how to fight the social rhetoric of Trump's which has already been disseminated and tolerated (and thus seen as acceptable).

As much as I am disturbed by Trump as President (which I'd bet might be as much as you are), you have thus far provided unrealistic steps for Trump's removal, and no valid reason why it should be pursued.

HughFreakingDillon

benjs said:

vaggar99 said:

Steps for ESP extraction
1. Decide we want to get rid of him
2. Decide how to get rid of him
3. Decide what to do after we get rid of him

1. You don't have consensus on that. Two million voters shy of 50% of eligible voters disagree with you at this point: how will you backtrack on the election process in existence since the birth of your nation and seen as the foundation of a democracy or federal republic?
2. You haven't provided any semblance of a solution to this. Grounds for dismissal must not be "he disgusts me", they must be rooted in a legal/constitutional objection. To assuage his supporters, it must be an undisputedly objective objection.
3. You certainly haven't provided a solution to this. If, somehow, you manage to come up with reasonable answers to your first two points in your unrealistic plan, you haven't spoken to why Clinton or Pence would be a better candidate. You also haven't spoken to how to get the acceptance of the People. Or how not to fan the flames of anarchy (since you'll need to refute election results and therefore refute the foundation of a democracy). Or how to fight the social rhetoric of Trump's which has already been disseminated and tolerated (and thus seen as acceptable).

As much as I am disturbed by Trump as President (which I'd bet might be as much as you are), you have thus far provided unrealistic steps for Trump's removal, and no valid reason why it should be pursued.

vaggar99

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

somebody just sent me a warning about creating threads relating to ESP. The person claims that mods will shut me down. Mods if you see this: go ahead. shut down my threads. show the PJ community that you and the band are fascists just like ESP. Do it. As if that $40 a year for the right to use this board and a shirt that never fits is so awesome.

doubtful they'll shut you down. they may shut down some of your threads as they are all essentially about the same thing. and depending on language used. you may get a warning. that's about it.

but I would advise against publicly challenging the mods/band and calling them potential fascists.

they will only be that if they try to shut down a single one of these threads. They are all valid to me as they are my attempt to organize the multiple paths that I see to getting rid of this sick fuck.

you call being against spamming, doing their job, as fascism??? it doesn't matter if you think they are all valid. it's spamming, plain and simple.

i'd say if i opened a thread called 'Who did you vote for?'. That would be spamming as it irrelevant at this point. I don't think any of my threads are irrelevant.

vaggar99

benjs said:

vaggar99 said:

Steps for ESP extraction
1. Decide we want to get rid of him
2. Decide how to get rid of him
3. Decide what to do after we get rid of him

1. You don't have consensus on that. Two million voters shy of 50% of eligible voters disagree with you at this point: how will you backtrack on the election process in existence since the birth of your nation and seen as the foundation of a democracy or federal republic?
2. You haven't provided any semblance of a solution to this. Grounds for dismissal must not be "he disgusts me", they must be rooted in a legal/constitutional objection. To assuage his supporters, it must be an undisputedly objective objection.
3. You certainly haven't provided a solution to this. If, somehow, you manage to come up with reasonable answers to your first two points in your unrealistic plan, you haven't spoken to why Clinton or Pence would be a better candidate. You also haven't spoken to how to get the acceptance of the People. Or how not to fan the flames of anarchy (since you'll need to refute election results and therefore refute the foundation of a democracy). Or how to fight the social rhetoric of Trump's which has already been disseminated and tolerated (and thus seen as acceptable).

As much as I am disturbed by Trump as President (which I'd bet might be as much as you are), you have thus far provided unrealistic steps for Trump's removal, and no valid reason why it should be pursued.

i agree. don't have consensus.
i do think i've provided some leads on how to get rid of him mostly based on the new information thats come in the last 24 hours. its all still very fresh. let's see how it pans out.
if you look through some of my posts, you'll see that I do have a compromise. Mike Pence. I don't agree with the guy, but he seems pretty sane to me. So I'm good with a conservative for the next four years so long as he's not a lunatic.