Trump

HughFreakingDillon

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

Will he ever apologize to the many groups he insulted during the campaign he will not be a true leader unless he does and brings the country together !

It would be way too little too late IMO. At this point, an apology would just be a form of pandering. I think it's irrelevant.

It is irrelevant and he shouldn't do it. Don't try to chase the Americans who will never except him anyways. His apology won't make Jose a supporter he shouldn't bother. His base is tired of having to apologize for speaking their minds. They understand.

yeah, my brother told me he is sick and tired of being called a bigot for saying homosexuals will go to hell.

he understands too.

josevolution

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

Will he ever apologize to the many groups he insulted during the campaign he will not be a true leader unless he does and brings the country together !

It would be way too little too late IMO. At this point, an apology would just be a form of pandering. I think it's irrelevant.

It is irrelevant and he shouldn't do it. Don't try to chase the Americans who will never except him anyways. His apology won't make Jose a supporter he shouldn't bother. His base is tired of having to apologize for speaking their minds. They understand.

yeah, my brother told me he is sick and tired of being called a bigot for saying homosexuals will go to hell.

he understands too.

Lol no doubt he spoke his mind though that's what people like lol

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

Will he ever apologize to the many groups he insulted during the campaign he will not be a true leader unless he does and brings the country together !

It would be way too little too late IMO. At this point, an apology would just be a form of pandering. I think it's irrelevant.

It is irrelevant and he shouldn't do it. Don't try to chase the Americans who will never except him anyways. His apology won't make Jose a supporter he shouldn't bother. His base is tired of having to apologize for speaking their minds. They understand.

yeah, my brother told me he is sick and tired of being called a bigot for saying homosexuals will go to hell.

he understands too.

People can be so stupid.

vaggar99

Recounts might be coming:
https://yahoo.com/news/jill-stein-raising-money-recount-194751965.html

Go Beavers

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

Will he ever apologize to the many groups he insulted during the campaign he will not be a true leader unless he does and brings the country together !

It would be way too little too late IMO. At this point, an apology would just be a form of pandering. I think it's irrelevant.

It is irrelevant and he shouldn't do it. Don't try to chase the Americans who will never except him anyways. His apology won't make Jose a supporter he shouldn't bother. His base is tired of having to apologize for speaking their minds. They understand.

yeah, my brother told me he is sick and tired of being called a bigot for saying homosexuals will go to hell.

he understands too.

Which is essentially the chord trump struck with a lot of his voters, which are a lot if white people holding on to bigoted beliefs rooted in fear and ignorance. These beliefs don't mesh with a society that's more and more multicultural and egalitarian, and they feel that struggle that they're out of place. Trump validated this fear and ignorance and made a campaign slogan out of it that said basically if you vote for me, we'll go back in time.

josevolution

vaggar99 said:

Recounts might be coming:
https://yahoo.com/news/jill-stein-raising-money-recount-194751965.html

You know I'm starting to see it because everyone here knows damn well that Bafoon would of done the same crap had he lost !

vaggar99

written by a Hillary hater:
counterpunch.org/2016/11/22/election-data-screams-fraud/

DarthMaeglin

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Free said:

BS44325 said:

CM189191 said:

Mike Pence and Paul Ryan would like to take this opportuinty to say a word about the diversity within the GOP


Waldo was easier to find

A picture of every member of the 10 Club would look just as diverse.

WTF. Does. That. Have. Anything. To do with leading a nation and fairly?

Are you suggesting the people in that picture can't lead a nation fairly based on their skin colour? You sound like Trump criticizing Judge Curiel.

Holy fuck, are you seriously not understanding that the government should adequately represent those it governs??? That is also the reason women need to be better represented in government. Jesus, how can you have a problem with that?? White men don't fully understand or relate to a lot of issues that are experienced by women, people of other ethnicities, etc. Obviously. Government is not the same as being a judge either, FFS. Politicians need to really understand the specific issues that effect various different demographics, and the best way to understand the issues is to be part of that demographic. DUH. It's the same reason it's a real problem that most people in government are rich.
I suspect you are just playing devil's advocate here, right?? Or do you just like to be a contrarian?

Did I say I have a problem with that? People in that picture got elected and swore an oath and you are suggesting that they are inherently biased and can't do the job based on the colour of their skin. When Trump said that it was outrageous...you are no better. Second, take a close look at those pictures again...almost half of the people are females.

When did I say they are all inherently biased? I said that they can't fully represent a diverse population because they don't hold the knowledge and understanding that is required to do so. That isn't bias. That's ignorance (not that some of them aren't biased... I'm sure several of them are that too, but that isn't a given just because they are white or white men. It's because some of them are also bigots, men and women alike. If you think there aren't any bigots in the GOP, joke's on you). Take another look at the picture with Pence. There are maybe 6 women there, and they were all brought up to the front to try and make it look like there were more women than there really are. But at any rate, I was talking about overall diversity, not the balance of men vs women (which we both know is completely uneven - that is a matter of fact, not opinion).

Diversity of thought is all that matter.

Diversity of thought? Well that doesn't exist in the GOP. And it couldn't, even if the GOP were interested in such a thing. "Diversity of thought" can't exist when the people in question have no frame of reference to be able to represent various groups of people. That is why diversity in government is so important.
Seriously, how can you advocate for a lack of diversity in government in good conscience?

I'm not sure that anyone's advocating for a lack of diversity in government, however the idea of setting quotas for ELECTED officials based on skin colour, religion or any other "qualification" is a bit of a slippery slope (borderline reverse racism/sexism, in my opinion). Couldn't these same officials gain the necessary insight from consulting with their constituents (something I admit doesn't seem to happen near enough, it generally seems to be the constituents reach out to their representative instead of the other way around)?

"Whadda ya gonna say, but Ole?" is something that's been running through my head since we elected a lightweight Prime Minister here north of the border (yes, another dreaded Canadian chiming in here, lol), seems a train of thought many here would benefit from adopting (while maintaining vigilance for actual misdeeds, as opposed to all the allegations being thrown around here).

PJ_Soul

I don't believe in the slippery slope theory. That whole argument (that came up when Trudeau ensured gender equality in the House) is absolute garbage IMO.

HughFreakingDillon

there shouldn't be quotas on elected officials. that makes no sense. "ok, mr smith, you won, but we need a black dude, so mr johnson, the seat is yours".

that GOP picture just goes to show, though, how few minority members/supporters they most likely have if they have no representatives.

but I believe, if officials are appointed by those elected, the appointees should have varying backgrounds/genders/ethnicities. to me it just makes sense.

HughFreakingDillon

DarthMaeglin said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Free said:

BS44325 said:

CM189191 said:

Mike Pence and Paul Ryan would like to take this opportuinty to say a word about the diversity within the GOP


Waldo was easier to find

A picture of every member of the 10 Club would look just as diverse.

WTF. Does. That. Have. Anything. To do with leading a nation and fairly?

Are you suggesting the people in that picture can't lead a nation fairly based on their skin colour? You sound like Trump criticizing Judge Curiel.

Holy fuck, are you seriously not understanding that the government should adequately represent those it governs??? That is also the reason women need to be better represented in government. Jesus, how can you have a problem with that?? White men don't fully understand or relate to a lot of issues that are experienced by women, people of other ethnicities, etc. Obviously. Government is not the same as being a judge either, FFS. Politicians need to really understand the specific issues that effect various different demographics, and the best way to understand the issues is to be part of that demographic. DUH. It's the same reason it's a real problem that most people in government are rich.
I suspect you are just playing devil's advocate here, right?? Or do you just like to be a contrarian?

Did I say I have a problem with that? People in that picture got elected and swore an oath and you are suggesting that they are inherently biased and can't do the job based on the colour of their skin. When Trump said that it was outrageous...you are no better. Second, take a close look at those pictures again...almost half of the people are females.

When did I say they are all inherently biased? I said that they can't fully represent a diverse population because they don't hold the knowledge and understanding that is required to do so. That isn't bias. That's ignorance (not that some of them aren't biased... I'm sure several of them are that too, but that isn't a given just because they are white or white men. It's because some of them are also bigots, men and women alike. If you think there aren't any bigots in the GOP, joke's on you). Take another look at the picture with Pence. There are maybe 6 women there, and they were all brought up to the front to try and make it look like there were more women than there really are. But at any rate, I was talking about overall diversity, not the balance of men vs women (which we both know is completely uneven - that is a matter of fact, not opinion).

Diversity of thought is all that matter.

Diversity of thought? Well that doesn't exist in the GOP. And it couldn't, even if the GOP were interested in such a thing. "Diversity of thought" can't exist when the people in question have no frame of reference to be able to represent various groups of people. That is why diversity in government is so important.
Seriously, how can you advocate for a lack of diversity in government in good conscience?

I'm not sure that anyone's advocating for a lack of diversity in government, however the idea of setting quotas for ELECTED officials based on skin colour, religion or any other "qualification" is a bit of a slippery slope (borderline reverse racism/sexism, in my opinion). Couldn't these same officials gain the necessary insight from consulting with their constituents (something I admit doesn't seem to happen near enough, it generally seems to be the constituents reach out to their representative instead of the other way around)?

"Whadda ya gonna say, but Ole?" is something that's been running through my head since we elected a lightweight Prime Minister here north of the border (yes, another dreaded Canadian chiming in here, lol), seems a train of thought many here would benefit from adopting (while maintaining vigilance for actual misdeeds, as opposed to all the allegations being thrown around here).

how is trudeau a "lightweight"?

vaggar99

josevolution said:

vaggar99 said:

Recounts might be coming:
https://yahoo.com/news/jill-stein-raising-money-recount-194751965.html

You know I'm starting to see it because everyone here knows damn well that Bafoon would of done the same crap had he lost !

probably not. cuz, it would have shown that he would have lost by a lot more.

vaggar99

^^^Not only is there electronic fraud occuring, votes could literally be thrown in the dumpster.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Here is the transcript of President-elect Trumps NY Times interview.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/politics/trump-new-york-times-interview-transcript.html?_r=0
It explains a lot on his upcoming policies and what he thinks.
A lot of answers provided.

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Free said:

BS44325 said:

CM189191 said:

Mike Pence and Paul Ryan would like to take this opportuinty to say a word about the diversity within the GOP


Waldo was easier to find

A picture of every member of the 10 Club would look just as diverse.

WTF. Does. That. Have. Anything. To do with leading a nation and fairly?

Are you suggesting the people in that picture can't lead a nation fairly based on their skin colour? You sound like Trump criticizing Judge Curiel.

Holy fuck, are you seriously not understanding that the government should adequately represent those it governs??? That is also the reason women need to be better represented in government. Jesus, how can you have a problem with that?? White men don't fully understand or relate to a lot of issues that are experienced by women, people of other ethnicities, etc. Obviously. Government is not the same as being a judge either, FFS. Politicians need to really understand the specific issues that effect various different demographics, and the best way to understand the issues is to be part of that demographic. DUH. It's the same reason it's a real problem that most people in government are rich.
I suspect you are just playing devil's advocate here, right?? Or do you just like to be a contrarian?

Did I say I have a problem with that? People in that picture got elected and swore an oath and you are suggesting that they are inherently biased and can't do the job based on the colour of their skin. When Trump said that it was outrageous...you are no better. Second, take a close look at those pictures again...almost half of the people are females.

When did I say they are all inherently biased? I said that they can't fully represent a diverse population because they don't hold the knowledge and understanding that is required to do so. That isn't bias. That's ignorance (not that some of them aren't biased... I'm sure several of them are that too, but that isn't a given just because they are white or white men. It's because some of them are also bigots, men and women alike. If you think there aren't any bigots in the GOP, joke's on you). Take another look at the picture with Pence. There are maybe 6 women there, and they were all brought up to the front to try and make it look like there were more women than there really are. But at any rate, I was talking about overall diversity, not the balance of men vs women (which we both know is completely uneven - that is a matter of fact, not opinion).

Diversity of thought is all that matter.

Diversity of thought? Well that doesn't exist in the GOP. And it couldn't, even if the GOP were interested in such a thing. "Diversity of thought" can't exist when the people in question have no frame of reference to be able to represent various groups of people. That is why diversity in government is so important.
Seriously, how can you advocate for a lack of diversity in government in good conscience?

I'm not sure that anyone's advocating for a lack of diversity in government, however the idea of setting quotas for ELECTED officials based on skin colour, religion or any other "qualification" is a bit of a slippery slope (borderline reverse racism/sexism, in my opinion). Couldn't these same officials gain the necessary insight from consulting with their constituents (something I admit doesn't seem to happen near enough, it generally seems to be the constituents reach out to their representative instead of the other way around)?

"Whadda ya gonna say, but Ole?" is something that's been running through my head since we elected a lightweight Prime Minister here north of the border (yes, another dreaded Canadian chiming in here, lol), seems a train of thought many here would benefit from adopting (while maintaining vigilance for actual misdeeds, as opposed to all the allegations being thrown around here).

how is trudeau a "lightweight"?

This is just my opinion, but his qualifications prior to being elected an MP left much to be desired, and some of his behaviour as an MP was questionable as well (calling another MP a piece of shit in the House Of Commons, I think it was). Stood next to Trump (to keep it on-topic, lol), Trump is far more qualified to run a country compared to Trudeau Jr., based on real-world experience (admittedly, they're both essentially trust-fund babies, and not getting into the successes and failures of Trump's various businesses).

Again, all just my opinion, as someone who generally will vote Conservative. I accept it's not the majority view (especially on these boards, lol).

HughFreakingDillon

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Here is the transcript of President-elect Trumps NY Times interview.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/politics/trump-new-york-times-interview-transcript.html?_r=0
It explains a lot on his upcoming policies and what he thinks.
A lot of answers provided.

so disgusted. I'm not done reading it yet, but this made me want to barf:

JAMES BENNET, editorial page editor: When you say an open mind, you mean you’re just not sure whether human activity causes climate change? Do you think human activity is or isn’t connected?

TRUMP: I think right now … well, I think there is some connectivity. There is some, something. It depends on how much. It also depends on how much it’s going to cost our companies. You have to understand, our companies are noncompetitive right now.

he put it right there in black and white. money comes before climate.

vaggar99

^^^climate is so far down the list of how fucked this guy is

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
The campaign was never run on the environment.

vaggar99

Anderson Cooper/ Megan Kelly Interview. This is some frightening shit
https://youtu.be/BjvbEpDoyfI

Go Beavers

I just wish he could learn to speak in full sentences. Do that first and then he might be able to tackle things like science and math later. Just like how we teach kids in grade school.