Trump

Gern Blansten

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/05/488802494/former-kkk-leader-david-duke-says-of-course-trump-voters-are-his-voters

Duke says that Trump's attacks on Muslims and illegal immigration have brought his own beliefs into the mainstream.

The former KKK grand wizard, who describes himself as advocating for European-Americans, filed to run for an open Senate seat in Louisiana just one day after the Republican National Convention.

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

Lima beans, cilantro and anchovies. It ain't gonna happen!

Michael Moore is convinced it could. He tweeted this morning Trump is polling higher than Hillary in key swing states.

Or he is just trying to promote Trumpland. Or he wants Trump to lose embarassingly.

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Lima beans, cilantro and anchovies. It ain't gonna happen!

Michael Moore is convinced it could. He tweeted this morning Trump is polling higher than Hillary in key swing states.

Or he is just trying to promote Trumpland. Or he wants Trump to lose embarassingly.

Moore doesn't want dems to become complacent. He wants to be sure dems get out and vote.

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Lima beans, cilantro and anchovies. It ain't gonna happen!

Michael Moore is convinced it could. He tweeted this morning Trump is polling higher than Hillary in key swing states.

Or he is just trying to promote Trumpland. Or he wants Trump to lose embarassingly.

Moore doesn't want dems to become complacent. He wants to be sure dems get out and vote.

that too.

love the new addition to the signature, BTW.

F Me In The Brain

dignin said:

Newt is going Giuliani crazy.....on Fox news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=sGy5wpY3kMI&app=desktop

Just watched that this morning.
When Fox News is ripped for being biased against Republicans the world is a funnier place. As a republican not voting for Trump, I get where Megyn Kelly is coming from here. Love her.

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Lima beans, cilantro and anchovies. It ain't gonna happen!

Michael Moore is convinced it could. He tweeted this morning Trump is polling higher than Hillary in key swing states.

Or he is just trying to promote Trumpland. Or he wants Trump to lose embarassingly.

Moore doesn't want dems to become complacent. He wants to be sure dems get out and vote.

that too.

love the new addition to the signature, BTW.

I figured that I'll just save him some time.

HughFreakingDillon

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/19/donald-trump-ny1-2008-hillary-clinton-kfile-jnd-orig.cnn

Trump praises both Clintons in 2008 video. He is so full of shit now it hurts.

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/19/donald-trump-ny1-2008-hillary-clinton-kfile-jnd-orig.cnn

Trump praises both Clintons in 2008 video. He is so full of shit now it hurts.

Yeah I'm hoping Clinton runs that as an ad....hilarious

BS44325

CM189191 said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Listen.
I don't know what you read but the article posted seems to have two different opinions.

It says the state level polling is more valid than national, and then makes good points as to why.

Some new state polling

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-26/florida-poll

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Remington_OH_Oct_25th_2016.pdf

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Remington_PA_Oct_25th_2016.pdf

Trump up 2 in Florida, up 4 in Ohio, and only behind 3 in PA?!

The battleground states are close and Obamacare might get him over the finish line.

You know it would be easier if you just posted a link to drudgereport. Those are the same 3 polls he's got splashed on his front page. Let's see how that worked out four years ago today.

I could have done that but if you spent time on here you would know that people won't accept "the drudge report" as a source nor should they. Better to post the original links so people can look at the polls themselves.

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Listen.
I don't know what you read but the article posted seems to have two different opinions.

It says the state level polling is more valid than national, and then makes good points as to why.

Some new state polling

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-26/florida-poll

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Remington_OH_Oct_25th_2016.pdf

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Remington_PA_Oct_25th_2016.pdf

Trump up 2 in Florida, up 4 in Ohio, and only behind 3 in PA?!

The battleground states are close and Obamacare might get him over the finish line.

I know nothing about Remington polling but the sampling looks out of line. Trumps big problem is not staying within two points, it's his lack of field offices and ground game.

A well run campaign is like an iceberg. 90% is invisible. Unfortunately for Trump, his is inverted. His rallies are like a carnival. There is nothing left after he leaves.

This is absolutely true which is what will make this election so fascinating. Trump is testing a ridiculous theory that he can do this completely on his own without money, operatives, commercials etc. I don't see how he can do it without a real campaign but then you realize that he managed to do it in the primaries and he has stayed competitive right up to the end. If he manages to pull this off it might destroy the "billion dollar campaign" and the entire election industry that everybody hates. Trump rallies are crushing Clinton rallies in attendance but you could be right...it could mean nothing without a ground game.

Cliffy6745

https://theringer.com/electing-hillary-isnt-enough-9f4651f0f852#.89scar4ww

BS44325

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Lima beans, cilantro and anchovies. It ain't gonna happen!

Michael Moore is convinced it could. He tweeted this morning Trump is polling higher than Hillary in key swing states.

Or he is just trying to promote Trumpland. Or he wants Trump to lose embarassingly.

Moore doesn't want dems to become complacent. He wants to be sure dems get out and vote.

Moore also knows that Trump is the only person speaking to the unemployed and those left behind in the industrial heartland. Moore lines up with Trump on trade and is at least being honest by admitting what the Democratic Party doesn't want to admit. These are real voters with real concerns and the democratic party dismisses them as stupid racists at their peril.

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Lima beans, cilantro and anchovies. It ain't gonna happen!

Michael Moore is convinced it could. He tweeted this morning Trump is polling higher than Hillary in key swing states.

Or he is just trying to promote Trumpland. Or he wants Trump to lose embarassingly.

Moore doesn't want dems to become complacent. He wants to be sure dems get out and vote.

Moore also knows that Trump is the only person speaking to the unemployed and those left behind in the industrial heartland. Moore lines up with Trump on trade and is at least being honest by admitting what the Democratic Party doesn't want to admit. These are real voters with real concerns and the democratic party dismisses them as stupid racists at their peril.

You're trying to discount a generalization about Trump supporters with your own generalzation about Trump supporters. Do you know how many jobs have returned to the Midwest? The generalization about Trump voters being uneducated bigots carries validity. Trump voters feeling like they're disenfranchised is less valid.

jeffbr

Cliffy6745 said:

https://theringer.com/electing-hillary-isnt-enough-9f4651f0f852#.89scar4ww

It will be interesting to watch the down ticket races. It is one thing for Hillary to beat Trump. But the real test will be congressional races. Hillary winning doesn't mean anything except people didn't want Trump more than they didn't want her. Unfortunately, I'm sure she'll ignore her disapproval rating, and believe that her victory will give her some sort of mandate. The only way she should be able to claim a mandate is if she can help flip congress. Otherwise, she was just the lesser of two evils, and someone who people wanted in office as a caretaker until we can elect a leader people can rally behind.

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

https://theringer.com/electing-hillary-isnt-enough-9f4651f0f852#.89scar4ww

that was a good read and very true...although i always chuckle seeing Jon Favreau thinking it's the actor/comedian.

you see some of what he mentions in the local Toomey-McGinty race. Toomey just refuses to say yes or no whether he supports Trump. It's just bizarre. even when asked he doesn't give an answer.

i don't know what is going to happen with the Republican party but someone sane has to step up for them in the future for the good of all of us.

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

Lima beans, cilantro and anchovies. It ain't gonna happen!

Michael Moore is convinced it could. He tweeted this morning Trump is polling higher than Hillary in key swing states.

Or he is just trying to promote Trumpland. Or he wants Trump to lose embarassingly.

Moore doesn't want dems to become complacent. He wants to be sure dems get out and vote.

Moore also knows that Trump is the only person speaking to the unemployed and those left behind in the industrial heartland. Moore lines up with Trump on trade and is at least being honest by admitting what the Democratic Party doesn't want to admit. These are real voters with real concerns and the democratic party dismisses them as stupid racists at their peril.

You're trying to discount a generalization about Trump supporters with your own generalzation about Trump supporters. Do you know how many jobs have returned to the Midwest? The generalization about Trump voters being uneducated bigots carries validity. Trump voters feeling like they're disenfranchised is less valid.

No. I am specifically referring to the Michael Moore clip I linked to earlier and relaying his words to the topic at hand which is Moore's morning tweet.

pjalive21

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/us/politics/trump-star-on-hollywood-walk-of-fame-is-smashed.html?_r=0

Just more tolerance being shown from the open armed left leaning liberals....who are the deplorable now? 3 incidents of destruction of GOP property, Clinton and her team encouraging violence against Trump supportes, now this

seriously the more im reading and witnessing the more my vote will go to this man....was originally going to exercise my right not to vote

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

https://theringer.com/electing-hillary-isnt-enough-9f4651f0f852#.89scar4ww

that was a good read and very true...although i always chuckle seeing Jon Favreau thinking it's the actor/comedian.

you see some of what he mentions in the local Toomey-McGinty race. Toomey just refuses to say yes or no whether he supports Trump. It's just bizarre. even when asked he doesn't give an answer.

i don't know what is going to happen with the Republican party but someone sane has to step up for them in the future for the good of all of us.

ha, yeah, man. They couldn't really be more opposite.

The Toomey thing is so annoying. He is obviously voting for Trump but playing people for idiots. I really hope McGingy beats him.

Wasn't that what the last 8 years were supposed to be? Weren't they supposed to figure this out and find someone sane after all the Obama attacks, rise of Palin and the tea party? They ended up in a worse spot...

Cliffy6745

jeffbr said:

Cliffy6745 said:

https://theringer.com/electing-hillary-isnt-enough-9f4651f0f852#.89scar4ww

It will be interesting to watch the down ticket races. It is one thing for Hillary to beat Trump. But the real test will be congressional races. Hillary winning doesn't mean anything except people didn't want Trump more than they didn't want her. Unfortunately, I'm sure she'll ignore her disapproval rating, and believe that her victory will give her some sort of mandate. The only way she should be able to claim a mandate is if she can help flip congress. Otherwise, she was just the lesser of two evils, and someone who people wanted in office as a caretaker until we can elect a leader people can rally behind.

She and Obama are going pretty hard at the down ticket races. Will be interesting.

BS44325

Trump now behind 4 in New Hampshire but within the margin of error (4.9)

http://monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_NH_102616/

She was up by 9 in the same poll one month ago. All of these polls show a shift towards Trump but the question is whether it is too late.