Texas teachers prepare for concealed carry at Universities

my2hands

usamamasan1 said:

25 year old dipshits votes BHO into office

And I'm guessing you voted for the ticket with Sarah Palin on it

What a joke

gimmesometruth27

Stickman12 said:

Here's a question. If one of these professors who is armed, is able and does neutralize an active shooter, is this a good idea then??

key word in your scenario is "IF".

it has never happened before. and by the time said professor skins his piece people will have already been shot. these "good guys with guns" don't walk around with their guns in their hands. they are in a holster. they draw their gun in response to a threat. people sitting in a classroom are not threats until they get up and draw their weapon.

my2hands

I have no issue with gun ownership... I know some very good people who are private gun owners... especially if they hunt... it's part of their culture...

It's all different now though... a bunch of white suburban "survivalists" that have never hunted in their life are now stockpiling guns and buying AR-15's because they think it's cool, or they think the black helicopters are coming, or they think it gives them a bigger dick

I have a dipshit 25 year old cousin, lives in the burbs, has never hunted in his life, has zero experience with guns growing up, and he is now a proud owner if an AR-15... there is zero fucking reason for him to own that gun... he did it because he watches fox news every day and thinks this shit makes him cool... that's happening all over the country, people that have no business being gun owners stockpiling weapons for no good reason

Like I said, Americans have turned into pussies

josevolution

Who cares I say let all those Texans shoot each other all up at schools churches concerts football games , walmarts , all you can eat buffets and specially at those great gun shows ....go ahead shoot your selves to the next century fools .....I hope that no one from here has to ever go to morgue to identify a loved one .....peace is all I care about

dudeman

josevolution said:

Who cares I say let all those Texans shoot each other all up at schools churches concerts football games , walmarts , all you can eat buffets and specially at those great gun shows ....go ahead shoot your selves to the next century fools .....I hope that no one from here has to ever go to morgue to identify a loved one .....peace is all I care about

I've had to do that. That's why I feel the way I do about self preservation and self defense. You can't always rely on someone else to stop the person that's trying to kill you.

callen

This indicates a failure of our society.

Fear and hate prevail.

josevolution

dudeman said:

josevolution said:

Who cares I say let all those Texans shoot each other all up at schools churches concerts football games , walmarts , all you can eat buffets and specially at those great gun shows ....go ahead shoot your selves to the next century fools .....I hope that no one from here has to ever go to morgue to identify a loved one .....peace is all I care about

I've had to do that. That's why I feel the way I do about self preservation and self defense. You can't always rely on someone else to stop the person that's trying to kill you.

Sorry you had to go thru that , but ill never ever believe that more guns is the answer so go ahead arm your self to the tilt im never goning down that road ....

mcgruff10

So if one person screws up is this law deemed a failure?

WhatYouTaughtMe

mcgruff10 said:

So if one person screws up is this law deemed a failure?

I would argue if they start changing their curriculum out of fear, yes it is a failure

mcgruff10

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

mcgruff10 said:

So if one person screws up is this law deemed a failure?

I would argue if they start changing their curriculum out of fear, yes it is a failure

Why would they change their curriculum? Is there proof of this? And how would changing curriculum be reflective of a gun law?
I think changing curriculum is pretty common based on your audience. I ve been teaching for 15+ years and change what I teach based on what my students have been through. (Depending on what I ve been made aware of)

WhatYouTaughtMe

mcgruff10 said:

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

mcgruff10 said:

So if one person screws up is this law deemed a failure?

I would argue if they start changing their curriculum out of fear, yes it is a failure

Why would they change their curriculum? Is there proof of this? And how would changing curriculum be reflective of a gun law?
I think changing curriculum is pretty common based on your audience. I ve been teaching for 15+ years and change what I teach based on what my students have been through. (Depending on what I ve been made aware of)

I'm not saying they definitely will, but did you read the article above? That's what I was referring to.

JWPearl

mcgruff10 said:

So if one person screws up is this law deemed a failure?

no i dont think so
it could be much worse
theres always possibilities
of more attacks i think its
a good idea and doesnt
hurt to take these steps
but im sorry i am one who
disagrees with guns
anywhere unless you own
an abattoir or a farm with
animals or you work with
police or security bc one
never has full self control
of oneself and one never
knows where life can take
them or lead them all it
takes is a real crappy day
for some ei affairs, drugs,
mental illness, injustices,
vengenge for oneself or
loved ones and the
government makes it so
easy....
really when man is pushed
beyond limits sometimes
self control does not exist

mcgruff10

so 7 other states besides texas allow concealed guns on campus and so far the world hasn't ended. Nineteen states prohibit weapons on campus and 33 states give the discretion to individual colleges/universities.

WhatYouTaughtMe

mcgruff10 said:

so 7 other states besides texas allow concealed guns on campus and so far the world hasn't ended. Nineteen states prohibit weapons on campus and 33 states give the discretion to individual colleges/universities.

Great, but would you be ok with altering what you teach out of fear of your students having a gun? That is what the people in this article are suggesting. Whether professors start doing this or not, is completely up to them. You don't see a problem with them having to consider this?

mcgruff10

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

mcgruff10 said:

so 7 other states besides texas allow concealed guns on campus and so far the world hasn't ended. Nineteen states prohibit weapons on campus and 33 states give the discretion to individual colleges/universities.

Great, but would you be ok with altering what you teach out of fear of your students having a gun? That is what the people in this article are suggesting. Whether professors start doing this or not, is completely up to them. You don't see a problem with them having to consider this?

yeah but what classes would even be affected by this? i'm guessing the vast minority. (political science, some history, english depending on topics...that's it right?)

dudeman

I think it is unrealistic to think that some students don't already come to class armed. Now they can do it legally and after they have had a background check.

I'm interested to see if the rate of sexual assaults on campus goes down. I think that is a much more concerning issue than lawful concealed carry.

WhatYouTaughtMe

mcgruff10 said:

WhatYouTaughtMe said:

mcgruff10 said:

so 7 other states besides texas allow concealed guns on campus and so far the world hasn't ended. Nineteen states prohibit weapons on campus and 33 states give the discretion to individual colleges/universities.

Great, but would you be ok with altering what you teach out of fear of your students having a gun? That is what the people in this article are suggesting. Whether professors start doing this or not, is completely up to them. You don't see a problem with them having to consider this?

yeah but what classes would even be affected by this? i'm guessing the vast minority. (political science, some history, english depending on topics...that's it right?)

In my opinion, even one class would be too many.

HesCalledDyer

usamamasan1 said:

25 year old dipshits votes BHO into office

50-60 year old dipshits voted GWB into office and now support racist, sexist, bigot Trump. Your point?