WHICH DEM WILL THEY SUPPORT, HILLARY OR BERNIE?

If you know their history, they're definitely not afraid to let their voices be heard when it comes to politics. The Voters for Choice shows were great. They of course supported Nader, and definitely were behind Obama. Many of you have written that you thought that one big reason they are touring is due to this being an election year, even though Lightning Bolt album tour support was a few years back. The Iowa race was very close with Hillary pulling out the narrow win, and now Bernie is slightly ahead in the NH polls. I live in the first-in-the-West state of NV, and will be deciding who to caucus for soon. I'm not definitely sure that HIllary will win the nomination, but I'm guessing she probably will in the end. But, that nomination might not be decided by the time that the tour kicks off in FL (will it? I don't truly fuckin know). So, do you forsee them keeping quiet early on until the nominee is determined, perhaps just speaking out for the Democratic party and the overall get-out-and-vote cause in general? It's tough for me to picture Ed lending support to Bernie and then Hillary gets the nod, or vice versa. Who do you think Ed, and the rest of the band, will be behind?

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  • For what it's worth, it looks like a bunch of their friends are supporting Bernie. Uncle Neil, Roger Waters, RHCP, Cat Power

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/pictures/25-musicians-who-are-feeling-the-bern-for-bernie-sanders-20160208
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  • If they have a brain they won't support either one.
  • If they have a brain they won't support either one.

    Yes, but we know they've backed Dems a long while now. Met with Clinton, Obama support, and the Missoula Tester show. I think with Neil backing Bernie, they might too.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    If they have a brain they won't support either one.

    Hahaha I suppose they should throw in for the reality TV star??? If they have a brain lol
    Too funny.
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  • The Bern was felt in NH, I guess.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Bernie is the man!!
  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    they are feeling the bern like me
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  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    BERNIE if they're going to really back up what they've been saying all these years

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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,693
    Hopefully no candidate at all. I would rather they keep their social voice but not outright support any of these crooks.
  • AlaGAlaG Posts: 976

    Hopefully no candidate at all. I would rather they keep their social voice but not outright support any of these crooks.

    I'd rather they not back a candidate either. That being said, don't think they're all crooks.
  • Yes, but I can't see Ed speaking to it, joining the political dialogue, and not being specific on who he's behind.
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  • Bernie. but why is this on the porch?
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Posts: 1,789
    edited February 2016

    If they have a brain they won't support either one.

    Yes, but we know they've backed Dems a long while now. Met with Clinton, Obama support, and the Missoula Tester show. I think with Neil backing Bernie, they might too.
    I'd call this more than Obama support (I truly think Eddie's backing of Obama was why they got to play 2 1/4 hours after Chicago concert curfew in 2013, thanks Mayor "former Chief of Staff" Emanuel, wink, wink). http://youtu.be/QxyRzswxVCE

    That being said, to the OP's question, who cares? It's your vote, make an educated decision, maybe it's the same as the band, maybe not but they shouldn't sway you.
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  • ckravitzckravitz Posts: 1,668

    Hopefully no candidate at all. I would rather they keep their social voice but not outright support any of these crooks.

    I'm still waiting for a candidate to emerge that doesn't make me cringe....on either side of the aisle.
  • deadendpdeadendp Posts: 10,434
    AMT, please.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535
    edited February 2016
    ckravitz said:

    Hopefully no candidate at all. I would rather they keep their social voice but not outright support any of these crooks.

    I'm still waiting for a candidate to emerge that doesn't make me cringe....on either side of the aisle.
    Vermin Supreme would of been a fun candidate. Though Lawrence Lessig would of been the right candidate if he didn't drop out.

    CTV News, CBC News & Global News here in Canada broadcast more USA politics then Canadian politics. Just because it's more entertaining. I have never seen it this entertaining & shocking ever! Each day the top story in Canada is what's happening in the USA elections. This USA election has drawn everyone around the globe to tune in, to pretty much listen to whatever Donald Trump has to say. It's pretty sad, though it's the American people who want him. They see something in him. He sure does know how to bring in the $ ratings that's for sure. Highest watched USA elections in the history. USA TV & global networks must thank him for that ...

    As for Bernie & Hillary, I kinda feel sad there is no other Democratic candidate running against them cause these two are not where you want to throw your vote away to. You got a man who's turning 75 in September. 75! If he wins he will be the oldest USA President in history. What's an old man doing trying to run the most powerful country on the planet? Have they ever heard of young blood? You must be 35+ year's to be President of the USA, right? Is there no one out there in the USA that is young, full of energy, smart, loved by all that can run the USA? Then you have the other candidate that just lies, lies & lies. I have NO idea how she even made it this far.
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  • PP193448PP193448 Posts: 4,281
    demetrios said:

    ckravitz said:

    Hopefully no candidate at all. I would rather they keep their social voice but not outright support any of these crooks.

    I'm still waiting for a candidate to emerge that doesn't make me cringe....on either side of the aisle.
    Vermin Supreme would of been a fun candidate. Though Lawrence Lessig would of been the right candidate if he didn't drop out.

    CTV News, CBC News & Global News here in Canada broadcast more USA politics then Canadian politics. Just because it's more entertaining. I have never seen it this entertaining & shocking ever! Each day the top story in Canada is what's happening in the USA elections. This USA election has drawn everyone around the globe to tune in, to pretty much listen to whatever Donald Trump has to say. It's pretty sad, though it's the American people who want him. They see something in him. He sure does know how to bring in the $ ratings that's for sure. Highest watched USA elections in the history. USA TV & global networks must thank him for that ...

    As for Bernie & Hillary, I kinda feel sad there is no other Democratic candidate running against them cause these two are not where you want to throw your vote away to. You got a man who's turning 75 in September. 75! If he wins he will be the oldest USA President in history. What's an old man doing trying to run the most powerful country on the planet? Have they ever heard of young blood? You must be 35+ year's to be President of the USA, right? Is there no one out there in the USA that is young, full of energy, smart, loved by all that can run the USA? Then you have the other candidate that just lies, lies & lies. I have NO idea how she even made it this far.
    Exactly. Sometimes I forget I'm watching the news, and think I'm watching Comedy Central. Politics here are so corrupt it's just ridiculous. I'm mean seriously, it's just all bullshit talk that will never happen with some of these candidates.
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  • DPrival78DPrival78 Posts: 2,263
    this whole thing is rigged for hillary. she'll do the bidding of the powers that be, so she'll get the seat. everything going on now is just theater.
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  • ckravitzckravitz Posts: 1,668
    The popularity of Trump and Bernie is basically a referendum on how sick people are of the US politics machine. Too bad we didn't have better choices to represent that (IMO of course... I know we are drifting in to dangerous territory here).
  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    Bernie; he'll fix the lottery system here, tix for everyone :)
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    edited February 2016
    deadendp said:

    AMT, please.

    I don't care either way, but since it's about the band's support (or lack) for candidates, it could be argued that it makes sense on this forum.

    I only see two possibilities:

    1. Nobody. In all the 2013 and 2014 boots I have (not to mention attending Wrigley and St. Paul, 2014), I don't think they say a damn word. Angry Ed does not show up like he used to...and they seem to be using their influences to help good causes that basically everyone will support (St. Paul's tour was in part because of the EB research).

    2. Bernie. He's certainly more Ed's speed than Hillary. While I don't think the band really wants to attach their names to a candidate of a major party, maybe the clown car of GOP hopefuls will get them to open their mouths a bit more. The GOP candidate, barring a surprise Kasich or Bush run, is either going to be Trump or someone that appeals to evangelicals. I think they changed their tune from Nader 2000 to "Vote for Change" 2004...I doubt it was about Kerry (who's name they never mentioned to my recollection) but more about Bush. This could be about Trump, Cruz, or Rubio.

    If Hillary wins the nomination, that will be interesting. Do they cringe and support her because of Trump/Cruz/Rubio? I could see them stumping for Bernie vs GOP but less likely for Clinton.

    Gun to my head, I'd say they don't support anyone under any circumstances...they have not exactly influenced any elections in the past and I have a sense that they are burned out on being lighting rods in general and with their own fanbase (except maybe Jeff).
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    demetrios said:

    ckravitz said:

    Hopefully no candidate at all. I would rather they keep their social voice but not outright support any of these crooks.

    I'm still waiting for a candidate to emerge that doesn't make me cringe....on either side of the aisle.
    Vermin Supreme would of been a fun candidate. Though Lawrence Lessig would of been the right candidate if he didn't drop out.

    CTV News, CBC News & Global News here in Canada broadcast more USA politics then Canadian politics. Just because it's more entertaining. I have never seen it this entertaining & shocking ever! Each day the top story in Canada is what's happening in the USA elections. This USA election has drawn everyone around the globe to tune in, to pretty much listen to whatever Donald Trump has to say. It's pretty sad, though it's the American people who want him. They see something in him. He sure does know how to bring in the $ ratings that's for sure. Highest watched USA elections in the history. USA TV & global networks must thank him for that ...

    As for Bernie & Hillary, I kinda feel sad there is no other Democratic candidate running against them cause these two are not where you want to throw your vote away to. You got a man who's turning 75 in September. 75! If he wins he will be the oldest USA President in history. What's an old man doing trying to run the most powerful country on the planet? Have they ever heard of young blood? You must be 35+ year's to be President of the USA, right? Is there no one out there in the USA that is young, full of energy, smart, loved by all that can run the USA? Then you have the other candidate that just lies, lies & lies. I have NO idea how she even made it this far.
    So, what, old men are junk now?
    75 isn't that old, he's only a few years older than Trump and Clinton.
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  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    Bernie's mind is way sharper than Trump or Bush and he is physically healthier than some slob like Christie. I can guarantee you that!! :lol:

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  • If they have a brain they won't support either one.

    Yes, but we know they've backed Dems a long while now. Met with Clinton, Obama support, and the Missoula Tester show. I think with Neil backing Bernie, they might too.
    I'd call this more than Obama support (I truly think Eddie's backing of Obama was why they got to play 2 1/4 hours after Chicago concert curfew in 2013, thanks Mayor "former Chief of Staff" Emanuel, wink, wink). http://youtu.be/QxyRzswxVCE

    That being said, to the OP's question, who cares? It's your vote, make an educated decision, maybe it's the same as the band, maybe not but they shouldn't sway you.
    Never did I say that what they support would sway me. And as for the "who cares?", the band has a definite history of getting involved and backing democratic candidates. This is a presidential election year, so it's very possible we'll hear Ed speak to it on this upcoming tour. Simple as that.
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  • deadendp said:

    AMT, please.

    What does "AMT" mean?
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535

    deadendp said:

    AMT, please.

    What does "AMT" mean?
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  • wnh1977wnh1977 Posts: 634
    I think they should go all in... I'm talking balls deep... for Ted Cruz. Just for shits and giggles.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    DPrival78 said:

    this whole thing is rigged for hillary. she'll do the bidding of the powers that be, so she'll get the seat. everything going on now is just theater.

    Same was said 8 years ago. She didn't win then neither.
  • I think if anything Ed might take a few swipes at Trump, but won't back a Dem unless Bernie gets the nod.
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