An Open Letter to Pearl Jam: Get off the sidelines and join the political revolution!

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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Causes are fine to talk about.We can all get behind them.
    Political candidates pimping is divisive unless at an event supporting such.Which is fine.I would know in advance and could choose to be there or not based on my political leaning.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    I can sort of understand the resistance to musicians talking about their favorite cause or candidate but if I were up there, I would do the same. It would be like here, speaking ones mind only live and to a much bigger audience! The only difference for me would be that I might say, "OK, if you don't like what I have to say here, this might be a good time to take a pee break."
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Too old and tired to stay behind this band to start a revolution.
    Not going to happen.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    Too old and tired to stay behind this band to start a revolution.
    Not going to happen.

    You're too old or they're too old?
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • brianlux said:

    Too old and tired to stay behind this band to start a revolution.
    Not going to happen.

    You're too old or they're too old?
    Me.
    and perhaps them too
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    brianlux said:

    Too old and tired to stay behind this band to start a revolution.
    Not going to happen.

    You're too old or they're too old?
    Me.
    and perhaps them too
    Nahhhh! Neither! (Unless you are a G.I. Generation dude like my Pop, He's 95. I'd give him a pass on being a rebel at this point in his life.)
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Well, Ed backed Nader in 2000. Vedder also told MTV News that his support of Nader stemmed from his belief that the Green Party candidate offered the only real alternative to Gore or Bush, both of whom, he suggested, are controlled by the same overriding special interests. According to the Seattle Weekly Stone in 2007 said "We've got to get our shit together. I think Barack Obama is the way of the future. I'm just really thankful that he's running." And then of course Bu$hleaguer. I can't imagine they will just sit out 2016.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Some good words from Mr. Flea here on concern for people and supporting Bernie. I especially found this well said. Good job, Flea!

    "The concept of politics itself is of absolutely no interest to me. The concept of human beings caring for one another holds great interest to me. I care about the welfare of people. I care about love and kindness and empathy and reaching out to those who are less fortunate and struggling to get by in a really difficult world. The candidate who actually represents the well-being of human beings in the United States and cares about people is Bernie Sanders, and that's why I stand by him."

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/flea-why-i-support-bernie-sanders-20160205
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • PJ_Soul said:

    Don't get me wrong. I think PJ is very socially responsible as bands go, and very generous (FTR, they donated the proceeds from that Oracle show). I just think they have largely abandoned their strong stance against mega corporations. And IMO it's pretty much because they didn't want to bother anymore, and also for business. It doesn't serve their business to stand against large corporations, and helps it to cooperate with them, which they now do. Show me the money.

    Or they simply grew up. It happens.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    PJ_Soul said:

    Don't get me wrong. I think PJ is very socially responsible as bands go, and very generous (FTR, they donated the proceeds from that Oracle show). I just think they have largely abandoned their strong stance against mega corporations. And IMO it's pretty much because they didn't want to bother anymore, and also for business. It doesn't serve their business to stand against large corporations, and helps it to cooperate with them, which they now do. Show me the money.

    Or they simply grew up. It happens.
    Do doubt (at least I hope) the guys have matured some but does becoming mature mean going soft on ones feelings about corporations running the show? Only if one believes it is in the best interests of the masses for corporations to run the show. I can't get my head around that idea.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    PJ_Soul said:

    Don't get me wrong. I think PJ is very socially responsible as bands go, and very generous (FTR, they donated the proceeds from that Oracle show). I just think they have largely abandoned their strong stance against mega corporations. And IMO it's pretty much because they didn't want to bother anymore, and also for business. It doesn't serve their business to stand against large corporations, and helps it to cooperate with them, which they now do. Show me the money.

    Or they simply grew up. It happens.
    Define "grow up". Because your definition is clearly not the same as everyone else's definition.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    PJ_Soul said:

    Don't get me wrong. I think PJ is very socially responsible as bands go, and very generous (FTR, they donated the proceeds from that Oracle show). I just think they have largely abandoned their strong stance against mega corporations. And IMO it's pretty much because they didn't want to bother anymore, and also for business. It doesn't serve their business to stand against large corporations, and helps it to cooperate with them, which they now do. Show me the money.

    Or they simply grew up. It happens.
    One has nothing to do with the other.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    One still great thing about this country is that we all get to decide for ourselves who to support or not support politically. My views are entirely up to me. Yours to you. Much the same as Pearl Jam's views are entirely up to them to decide. I don't feel any need to call on the band to echo my political choices, nor do I feel comfortable judging them if they do or don't.

    Live and let live. Pearl Jam is under no obligation to support Bernie Sanders or to tell us who they do or don't support. The members of this band don't sacrifice their right to privacy or freedom of choice just because some may want them to.

    I do believe this thread was created with the best of intentions. If Eddie or other members of the band choose to endorse Sanders, or if the band collectively choose to, good for Pearl Jam and good for Bernie Sanders. But calling on them to do so and speculating why they haven't, that leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth.
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