Smashing Pumpkins Tour 2016

Mignelli14

Dates just came out, on sale is this Friday at 9am Eastern

IN PLAINSONG TOUR DATES

March 22
Portland, OR
Schnitzer Hall

March 23
Seattle, WA
The Paramount

March 25
San Francisco, CA
The Masonic

March 26
Los Angeles, CA
The Theatre at Ace Hotel

March 27
Los Angeles, CA
The Theatre at Ace Hotel

March 29
Salt Lake City, UT
Kingsbury Hall

March 30
Denver, CO
Ellie Caulkins Opera House

April 1
Detroit, MI
The Fillmore

April 2
Columbus, OH
Palace Theatre

April 4
New York, NY
Beacon Theatre

April 8
Philadelphia, PA
Tower Theatre

April 9
Boston, MA
Orpheum Theatre

April 10
Washington, DC
Lincoln Theatre

April 12
Toronto, ONT
Massey Hall

April 14
Chicago, IL
Civic Opera House

April 15
Louisville, KY
Palace Theater

April 16
Nashville, TN
Ryman Auditorium

April 18
Dallas, TX
Majestic Theater

April 19
Austin, TX
Bass Concert Hall

April 20
Houston, TX
Cullen Performance Hall

Provided tickets aren't overwhelmingly pricey I'll try for Toronto. One of my favourite bands but I have to say, I saw them last summer and didn't think they were anything special live. But Jimmy is my favourite drummer so I can't just pass up another chance to see him

Wma31394

Yes with jimmy back it has to be much better. Liz phair is also a plus although I haven't heard or seen her in years. I'm going to scoop some Chicago tix

Mignelli14

Jimmy played in the summer - he was the only redeeming part of it. Billy has the stage presence of a pizza

DarthMaeglin

Glad to hear Jimmy's still on board, does this mean Billy's going to finally finish the Teargarden project? (So much for a song a week for free until the project was completed...it's been 7 years already, lol!)

Wma31394

Mignelli14 said:

Jimmy played in the summer - he was the only redeeming part of it. Billy has the stage presence of a pizza

Billy can still bring it..and I'm glad he's doing a little acoustic..he has never been one for much stage banter which is fine with me

Wma31394

DarthMaeglin said:

Glad to hear Jimmy's still on board, does this mean Billy's going to finally finish the Teargarden project? (So much for a song a week for free until the project was completed...it's been 7 years already, lol!)

I thought it was done but I could be wrong...

DarthMaeglin

Wma31394 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Glad to hear Jimmy's still on board, does this mean Billy's going to finally finish the Teargarden project? (So much for a song a week for free until the project was completed...it's been 7 years already, lol!)

I thought it was done but I could be wrong...

I may have missed something, lol. As far as I know the last release was Monuments To An Elegy, which was supposed to be followed by Day For Night (a title that Billy's already thrown out, lol). The entire "cycle" was supposed to be 44 songs, I think there's still 12 or so to go, lol.

Wma31394

DarthMaeglin said:

Wma31394 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Glad to hear Jimmy's still on board, does this mean Billy's going to finally finish the Teargarden project? (So much for a song a week for free until the project was completed...it's been 7 years already, lol!)

I thought it was done but I could be wrong...

I may have missed something, lol. As far as I know the last release was Monuments To An Elegy, which was supposed to be followed by Day For Night (a title that Billy's already thrown out, lol). The entire "cycle" was supposed to be 44 songs, I think there's still 12 or so to go, lol.

Yea it was I just checked..:)

So is this tour all acoustic or electric too?

pjfaninindiana

I believe it was some acoustic and some electric last year. And a number of rare songs thrown in. Even a few songs from Zwan and his solo album.

RoleModelsinBlood31

I'll go if tix here in Austin are around $40-$50 bucks. Anymore than that and they aren't worth it, plain and simple.

Wma31394

pjfaninindiana said:

I believe it was some acoustic and some electric last year. And a number of rare songs thrown in. Even a few songs from Zwan and his solo album.

Loved zwan!!

buck502000

Is James Iha coming back?

Wma31394

buck502000 said:

Is James Iha coming back?

No

Edrock78

Ticket prices aren't bad at all. Range from $35 to $75 at the Tower show in Philly. Just got two in the orchestra for $50 a piece. Artist code is ELECTRO if anyone wanted to get in on the presale.

Mignelli14

Yeah you're right. Toronto is not showing up on ticketmaster strangely

Weston1283

The Columbus show is intriguing to me...

LetsGoMteers

I saw them in the 90's and it honestly was one of the worst concerts I've ever seen. They sounded horrible and I was super bummed. They were one of my favorite bands at the time and it was such a letdown.

HughFreakingDillon

the next album, which was going to be, but no longer, titled Day For Night, concludes the Teargarden Project.
This is tour is part electric, part acoustic.
Why the fuck does he go by Reverend Billy Corgan now?
I have always loved his music, but his reply to the critics response to Monuments made me hate the guy even more:

The lukewarm response to Monuments to an Elegy caused Corgan to change his plans for Day for Night. The critic's reviews of Monuments to an Elegy, which holds a rating of 70/100 at Metacritic based on 31 reviews,[46] were criticized by Corgan for being "middling, muddling" reviews and not offering a "fair" evaluation of the album, while also admitting he didn't even read any of the reviews.[47] Corgan said: "I thought for sure I would get really strong reviews for our new album [Monuments to an Elegy], based on all the feedback I was getting. But I'm getting the same reviews I got back in the day, these kind of middling, muddling reviews that just won't fucking say: 'This is a fucking brilliant album from a brilliant artist,'" and also elaborated that, "It's not a three-star fucking record. Nobody believes it's a three-star record. Nobody! OK, these people obviously did, so maybe I shouldn't be so absolute. But I've been in this business for 25 years and there is nobody in it who believes this is a three-star record. Nobody!"[47] The original plan was for Monuments To An Elegy to be a pop/rock album and then be followed by an experimental "weird, arty" album, Day For Night.[48] However, the response to Monuments To An Elegy caused him to re-evaluate the Day For Night demos and decided that, "The Smashing Pumpkins shouldn't be an arty band anymore," and elaborated, "Monuments is me solving a problem of how to get The Smashing Pumpkins back into the mainstream. I had to solve that problem before I can solve problem two, which is where Day For Night comes in. That's why I'd thought 'I'll do the thing I should do, then I’ll do the thing I want to do.' But now what I want to do is kick people out of the way."[48] Corgan later revealed that the follow up to Monuments to an Elegy would no longer to be titled Day for Night.[49]

all he cares about is sales and peer respect, his own legacy, and relevance in the history of alternative rock. it's so superficial it's like he's a pop star.

AlaG

With so many good shows coming to the Boston area and this PJ tour, I can't justify paying to see them for the second time in a year. Shocked they're coming back this early after the turnout at Blue Hills.

Wma31394

Always so much billy whining..

buck502000

I wish I could go back to 1994 and see them

Wma31394

^^^^ Of course...all bands better when younger.

dlymnfld

buck502000 said:

I wish I could go back to 1994 and see them

I actually saw them in 1994 in RI at Lollapoolaza. Corgan's voice sounded so much better with D'arcy's background vocals. I also saw Beastie Boys on the same lineup. A matter fact I saw original AIC, Tool and RATM a year earlier at the same place at 1993 Lollapoolaza. Sometimes being old has it's benefits.

Indifference71

Wma31394 said:

Always so much billy whining..

Not surprising....the guy is an egotistical douchebag. Unless there's some sort of miracle and the original lineup reunites, zero interest in see this watered down version of the pumpkins.

Wma31394

Indifference71 said:

Wma31394 said:

Always so much billy whining..

Not surprising....the guy is an egotistical douchebag. Unless there's some sort of miracle and the original lineup reunites, zero interest in see this watered down version of the pumpkins.

90% of what he says is just said to stir the pot and push people's buttons..he basically attacks the industry (we all love a band who used to do this) and tells it how it is and gets the short end of the stick..

Regarding the music..it is still fantastic. Of course I would love to see James and Darcy back..but as long as jimmy is around that's fine. The guy Jeff Schroeder or what ever his name is actually very good.

Wma31394

Indifference71 said:

Wma31394 said:

Always so much billy whining..

Not surprising....the guy is an egotistical douchebag. Unless there's some sort of miracle and the original lineup reunites, zero interest in see this watered down version of the pumpkins.

Your a Chicago guy..support your local artist. At least for what he gave with gish..Siamese Dream..and Mellon Collie. Next to PJs first 3 can you name 3 better to start a career?

Siamese Dream is equal to ten

Mignelli14

Jimmy alone is worth the ticket price for me. And again the music is still good stuff. I can play through their first 3, then I get a little picky and choosy with their later albums, but for the most part there are awesome tunes to be found in them

HughFreakingDillon

Wma31394 said:

Indifference71 said:

Wma31394 said:

Always so much billy whining..

Not surprising....the guy is an egotistical douchebag. Unless there's some sort of miracle and the original lineup reunites, zero interest in see this watered down version of the pumpkins.

90% of what he says is just said to stir the pot and push people's buttons..he basically attacks the industry (we all love a band who used to do this) and tells it how it is and gets the short end of the stick..

Regarding the music..it is still fantastic. Of course I would love to see James and Darcy back..but as long as jimmy is around that's fine. The guy Jeff Schroeder or what ever his name is actually very good.

he's not attacking the industry. he's attacking those who don't put him on a pedestal with cobain and vedder. Eddie has never once (to my knowledge) complained about album sales (except maybe that they were too HIGH), britney spears beating him in sales/radio play, broke up his band because of their inability to keep the kids' attention, or critics' opinion of their records, or changed writing style to fit the sound of the day. Billy is the only alt rock frontman who does this.

but yes, I still love the music. the show on the Oceania tour was incredible. and you are right, Jeff Schroeder killed it on the drums. Jimmy is amazing, but Jeff was a very capable replacement.

Wma31394

HughFreakingDillon said:

Wma31394 said:

Indifference71 said:

Wma31394 said:

Always so much billy whining..

Not surprising....the guy is an egotistical douchebag. Unless there's some sort of miracle and the original lineup reunites, zero interest in see this watered down version of the pumpkins.

90% of what he says is just said to stir the pot and push people's buttons..he basically attacks the industry (we all love a band who used to do this) and tells it how it is and gets the short end of the stick..

Regarding the music..it is still fantastic. Of course I would love to see James and Darcy back..but as long as jimmy is around that's fine. The guy Jeff Schroeder or what ever his name is actually very good.

he's not attacking the industry. he's attacking those who don't put him on a pedestal with cobain and vedder. Eddie has never once (to my knowledge) complained about album sales (except maybe that they were too HIGH), britney spears beating him in sales/radio play, broke up his band because of their inability to keep the kids' attention, or critics' opinion of their records, or changed writing style to fit the sound of the day. Billy is the only alt rock frontman who does this.

but yes, I still love the music. the show on the Oceania tour was incredible. and you are right, Jeff Schroeder killed it on the drums. Jimmy is amazing, but Jeff was a very capable replacement.

I didn't know Jeff played the drums..I have only seen him on guitar... That young kid was on drums for a few years..

Billy is the only alt frontman who does this who is not afraid of reprocussions from industry or peers..i have no issues with it..the Shit he says is never that bad..

HughFreakingDillon

Wma31394 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Wma31394 said:

Indifference71 said:

Wma31394 said:

Always so much billy whining..

Not surprising....the guy is an egotistical douchebag. Unless there's some sort of miracle and the original lineup reunites, zero interest in see this watered down version of the pumpkins.

90% of what he says is just said to stir the pot and push people's buttons..he basically attacks the industry (we all love a band who used to do this) and tells it how it is and gets the short end of the stick..

Regarding the music..it is still fantastic. Of course I would love to see James and Darcy back..but as long as jimmy is around that's fine. The guy Jeff Schroeder or what ever his name is actually very good.

he's not attacking the industry. he's attacking those who don't put him on a pedestal with cobain and vedder. Eddie has never once (to my knowledge) complained about album sales (except maybe that they were too HIGH), britney spears beating him in sales/radio play, broke up his band because of their inability to keep the kids' attention, or critics' opinion of their records, or changed writing style to fit the sound of the day. Billy is the only alt rock frontman who does this.

but yes, I still love the music. the show on the Oceania tour was incredible. and you are right, Jeff Schroeder killed it on the drums. Jimmy is amazing, but Jeff was a very capable replacement.

I didn't know Jeff played the drums..I have only seen him on guitar... That young kid was on drums for a few years..

Billy is the only alt frontman who does this who is not afraid of reprocussions from industry or peers..i have no issues with it..the Shit he says is never that bad..

sorry, yes, I got the names mixed up. that kid on drums, whatever his name is, was really good.

I just have an issue with anyone who directs their career in the way that will get them the most airplay. that's not authentic. He said about Monuments and Day For Night, and I'm paraphrasing; "Monuments is what I felt I had to do, Day For Night is what I want to do". No matter the quality, I want an artist to be true to themselves, not the charts. Maybe there are other artists who do this and just don't talk about it. Who knows.

I can respect a guy for saying what he feels without worrying about what people think, but if the content is based on complaining about what people think, then that kind of cancels that out.

HughFreakingDillon

I was excited about Teargarden. I thought it was a fabulous idea. Give the songs away for free, so people engage in each song on its own, and get the die hards to pay for the vinyl/cd box (which I did). He gave up on that idea when people didn't show as much interest as he thought they would. He proclaimed the album dead and said singles are the way to go from now on. He failed at that, so went back to making albums. He does what he thinks what will be successful, not on what he wants to do.

Either way, I'm going to listen to SP for the rest of the day. Thanks for that!