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brianlux

rollings said:

So it is true that "nature bats last" huh?

RKCNDY

rollings said:

my boyfriend has an aunt who has a cow for a service animal.

As he puts it, she is a woman of size and is dependent on the cow to pull her around sometimes.

She was once maybe even denied service on a tour yacht because she has a cow.

Those are some pretty big poop bags she has to carry around...

xhausted1

Bentleyspop said:

According to the ADA (as I understand it) businesses are NOT allowed to challenge someone's claim of having a service animal. Therefore you can bring your service dog, snake, turkey, elephant wherever you want.

In addition there is NO national or state certification for service animals so anyone can claim any animal as a "service animal". No training necessary.

You can print out your own "service animal" identification at home if you want. Feel free to order a "service animal " vest from any number of online resources.

And YES people take advantage of this all the time.

Happened here. A man brought his pet snake in a restaurant & had it hanging around his neck like a scarf. He said it was his service animal to help with PTSD. I am sure he was mocking the idea of service animals. The restaurant let him sit there with the snake because they were scared of a lawsuit.

chadwick

holy smokes

https://youtu.be/t7a0eQleWiw

Drowned Out

another edited '.' thread. wtf? weird.

Anyway...I know people who have declared their pets as service animals when flying, when they were 100% NOT service animals. But I can't blame them after reading stories like this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512223/United-Airlines-Almost-Killed-My-Greyhound-Dog-left-hot-tarmac.html
Who wants to risk subjecting their fur babies to that shit? I'd rather have a plane full of people pissed at me than worry for an entire flight that my dog was dying a slow death underneath me (if I had one).

Maybe the compromise is to force airlines to provide separate areas for animals in the cargo space (one that is temperature controlled), and allow for a different loading procedure?

brianlux

Drowned Out said:

another edited '.' thread. wtf? weird.

Anyway...I know people who have declared their pets as service animals when flying, when they were 100% NOT service animals. But I can't blame them after reading stories like this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512223/United-Airlines-Almost-Killed-My-Greyhound-Dog-left-hot-tarmac.html
Who wants to risk subjecting their fur babies to that shit? I'd rather have a plane full of people pissed at me than worry for an entire flight that my dog was dying a slow death underneath me (if I had one).

Maybe the compromise is to force airlines to provide separate areas for animals in the cargo space (one that is temperature controlled), and allow for a different loading procedure?

That sounds like a good compromise. I would never travel with a cat or dog but if I did, I would expect a climate controlled animal cargo space would incur extra costs and I would be willing to pay extra for whatever it took to keep the animal safe.

It's interesting to see how the airline industry has changed. From the time I was 7 or 8 years old, I grew up in an airline family and in the late 50's and sixties it was a different world. People dressed up for flights, the food was good, they gave kids pilot wing pins, a complimentary deck of cards if you asked for them, the flight attendants were friendly, polite and very helpful, blankets and pillows were available to keep you comfortable, leg room was plenty adequate and no one brought animals on the plane. The only problem I can recall (I don't fly anymore) was that smoking was allowed on planes.

PJ_Soul

Pet-friendly flights might work. Say make every 10th flight on every route pet-friendly to give people flying with pets an option (albeit a less flexible one, with much less frequent flights), allowing people who don't want to be on a flight with pets to avoid those flights (or maybe even give people flying without a pet in a pet-friendly flight a discount or something).

PJfanwillneverleave1

This thread is about people who depend on animals.
Deleted "." by me to not be construed as.

brianlux

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

This thread is about people who depend on animals.
Deleted "." by me to not be construed as.

So, the thread is to not be construed as being about people who depend on animals and yet that is what you say the thread is about.

Is the answer, "The plum tree in the courtyard"?

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

This thread is about people who depend on animals.
Deleted "." by me to not be construed as.

This thread became a conversation about pets on planes too.
If a person depends on an animal the airline is legally obligated to allow it as far as I know, but there should be medical documentation involved.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

chadwick said:

holy smokes

https://youtu.be/t7a0eQleWiw

This f**king idiot should never be allowed to fly again.

People's pets shouldn't become other people's problems: allergies, noise, stench, etc. should not be part of the air travel equation. People need to get f**king real.

We have a cat. When we travel, we pay for a house sitter. We have a litter box too. My neighbours don't have to clean the shit from their shrub beds like I have had to so many times.

"My dog has just as much right to be on this plane as you do" (spoken in a groggy, martini laced, slurring, slovenly, cackling voice).

F**k people are stupid.

* Service animals handled with care and in a separate area from the cabin. If someone is so f**ked up that they get separation anxiety when apart from their animal... then f**king drive or stay at home with your curtains closed and your teeth chattering.