I'm guessing they are keeping the selections to short shows because the price already is astronomical enough and a longer show would mean more discs and higher costs.
If this is the case and it very well may be it is a real shame. Although vinyl is great and for collectors is a very sought after thing for some, to most people I would guess it is about everyday listening to the music... New music... The best possible selection, not limited by cost and length, due to restrictions based on those type of decisions.
1994 - Pensacola, Miami, Atlanta - 1995 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, New Orleans (Tickets to Phoenix, Las Cruces, Austin, Shows Canceled) - 1996 - Randalls Island, Randalls Island, Charlotte, N.Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale - 1997 - Oakland-1998 - Alpine Valley, Alpine Valley, Chicago, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach - 2000 - West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas (10th Anniversary Show) - 2003 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Camden, Camden, MSG, MSG - 2004 - Kissimmee, Fl - 2006 - Irving Plaza, Albany, Hartford, Denver, Denver, Las Vegas - 2007 - Ed w/ Jack Irons & Flea in LA - 2008 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Columbia, Camden, Camden, Washington D.C. - 2009 - L.A., San Diego, Philly Spectrum Night 3 & 4 - 2010 - New Orleans, Columbus, Indianapolis, Hartford, MSG, MSG - 2011 - Ed - Hartford, Providence, Boston - 2011 - Alpine Valley X2 (PJ20), Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver - 2012 - Ed - Ft. Lauderdale x2, - 2012 / 2014 Beautiful Daughter "Emily" born 11/07/12. On the bench for 3 years! She's really cute though! - 2015 - Mexico City - 2016 - Ft. Laud, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Greenville, Raleigh, Columbia, Philly 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2, Wrigley Night 1 & 2 - 2016 - MSG, San Francisco, San Francisco, Seattle, Seattle (TOTD) - 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
Why would we need a vault from the Lightning Bolt tour until all of the old stuff is unleashed? We have soundboards of all of this stuff available....
I definitely don't. Even if they need to chop up archived shows for vinyl, I'd prefer that they make the full show available on CD and FLAC. Just get it out there!
Why would we need a vault from the Lightning Bolt tour until all of the old stuff is unleashed? We have soundboards of all of this stuff available....
I definitely don't. Even if they need to chop up archived shows for vinyl, I'd prefer that they make the full show available on CD and FLAC. Just get it out there!
My Man! That's what I'm talking about!
1994 - Pensacola, Miami, Atlanta - 1995 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, New Orleans (Tickets to Phoenix, Las Cruces, Austin, Shows Canceled) - 1996 - Randalls Island, Randalls Island, Charlotte, N.Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale - 1997 - Oakland-1998 - Alpine Valley, Alpine Valley, Chicago, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach - 2000 - West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas (10th Anniversary Show) - 2003 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Camden, Camden, MSG, MSG - 2004 - Kissimmee, Fl - 2006 - Irving Plaza, Albany, Hartford, Denver, Denver, Las Vegas - 2007 - Ed w/ Jack Irons & Flea in LA - 2008 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Columbia, Camden, Camden, Washington D.C. - 2009 - L.A., San Diego, Philly Spectrum Night 3 & 4 - 2010 - New Orleans, Columbus, Indianapolis, Hartford, MSG, MSG - 2011 - Ed - Hartford, Providence, Boston - 2011 - Alpine Valley X2 (PJ20), Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver - 2012 - Ed - Ft. Lauderdale x2, - 2012 / 2014 Beautiful Daughter "Emily" born 11/07/12. On the bench for 3 years! She's really cute though! - 2015 - Mexico City - 2016 - Ft. Laud, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Greenville, Raleigh, Columbia, Philly 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2, Wrigley Night 1 & 2 - 2016 - MSG, San Francisco, San Francisco, Seattle, Seattle (TOTD) - 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
I for one don't care about vinyl. Just release soundboard recordings on cd/flac.
This. Especially when they don't release info on how the vinyl is mastered. If they're just putting 16 bit/44khz to vinyl, then I don't want any part of it.
I'm at 954.298.5171 if it is easier to call me if you run into problems. I'm in Florida so beware of the hours. I'm good from around 9am til 11:30pm EST to help.
I have edited the original post, but when I first wrote it I completely forgot Soldier Field! I guess I have listened to it so much that it just didn't even register anymore... Hey over all I did pretty well from memory..LOL ( Nobody else caught it before I did either )
1995 - (7 shows from 1995) Self Pollution, D.C, Melbourne, Salt Lake City x2, San Jose, San Diego ( Nothing in between March and Nov and no Asia)
San diego 95 are two nigths too, both available in fm monkeywrench broadcast quality I personally have been always intrigued by missoula 93 and spokane 93, but that year has already been wasted by the latest vault.. Seattle 96? Both shows are already available in excellent aud recordings.. Budapest 96 in 2011 a really good aud recording surfaced (i will never listen anymore to the terrible aud source previously available).. I personally would love some new zealand 95 to see the light of day..
I have edited the original post, but when I first wrote it I completely forgot Soldier Field! I guess I have listened to it so much that it just didn't even register anymore... Hey over all I did pretty well from memory..LOL ( Nobody else caught it before I did either )
1995 - (7 shows from 1995) Self Pollution, D.C, Melbourne, Salt Lake City x2, San Jose, San Diego ( Nothing in between March and Nov and no Asia)
San diego 95 are two nigths too, both available in fm monkeywrench broadcast quality I personally have been always intrigued by missoula 93 and spokane 93, but that year has already been wasted by the latest vault.. Seattle 96? Both shows are already available in excellent aud recordings.. Budapest 96 in 2011 a really good aud recording surfaced (i will never listen anymore to the terrible aud source previously available).. I personally would love some new zealand 95 to see the light of day..
Thanks for the correction, yes I forgot to put a "x2" next to San Diego and add a show. Kinda did it on the fly as a stream of consciousness and figured you guys and I would catch stuff later.
I agree with what you wrote and also would add the performance on Seattle 96 in my opinion they were still warming up the new material and it wasn't played as well as later in the tour and they were still a little rusty overall that night if I recall.
The Charleston 96', Randall's Island 96' Shows are great. The Milwaukee Night 2 95', So many 94' shows with cool sets but you have to be careful with which nights Mike was playing with confidence and not to wasted! Asia 95', Some other 98' shows! The 11.17.93 New Orleans show is one of Mikes best performances of the tour in my opinion. So many better than what have been used already and what I fear they might choose next.
1994 - Pensacola, Miami, Atlanta - 1995 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, New Orleans (Tickets to Phoenix, Las Cruces, Austin, Shows Canceled) - 1996 - Randalls Island, Randalls Island, Charlotte, N.Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale - 1997 - Oakland-1998 - Alpine Valley, Alpine Valley, Chicago, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach - 2000 - West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas (10th Anniversary Show) - 2003 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Camden, Camden, MSG, MSG - 2004 - Kissimmee, Fl - 2006 - Irving Plaza, Albany, Hartford, Denver, Denver, Las Vegas - 2007 - Ed w/ Jack Irons & Flea in LA - 2008 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Columbia, Camden, Camden, Washington D.C. - 2009 - L.A., San Diego, Philly Spectrum Night 3 & 4 - 2010 - New Orleans, Columbus, Indianapolis, Hartford, MSG, MSG - 2011 - Ed - Hartford, Providence, Boston - 2011 - Alpine Valley X2 (PJ20), Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver - 2012 - Ed - Ft. Lauderdale x2, - 2012 / 2014 Beautiful Daughter "Emily" born 11/07/12. On the bench for 3 years! She's really cute though! - 2015 - Mexico City - 2016 - Ft. Laud, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Greenville, Raleigh, Columbia, Philly 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2, Wrigley Night 1 & 2 - 2016 - MSG, San Francisco, San Francisco, Seattle, Seattle (TOTD) - 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
Budapest 96 in 2011 a really good aud recording surfaced (i will never listen anymore to the terrible aud source previously available).. I personally would love some new zealand 95 to see the light of day..
Good call, just found it on my HD. That's tomorrow's listen.
Budapest 96 in 2011 a really good aud recording surfaced (i will never listen anymore to the terrible aud source previously available).. I personally would love some new zealand 95 to see the light of day..
Good call, just found it on my HD. That's tomorrow's listen.
Man, this is great. First performance of Black Red Yellow and Ed is on fire. I could listen to 94-96 shows forever.
I know I am going off the reservation with this, but I am going through my Setlists photos just now and am reminded of how epic D.C. 98' could have been. The original encore sheet read the following:
Alive Breath State Indifference Betterman In Hiding Footsteps Who You Are I Got Shit Soldier Of Love Ledbetter
Only five were actually played:
I Got Shit Betterman Alive Soldier Of Love Ledbetter
Now I am not talking about potential encores written in on the bottom of the Main setlist. I am talking about a complete sheet labeled ENC 9/19. Now that would have made for a completely different "Vault". I also have the original main and encore Seltlists from the following two shows and ALL Encores on the Encore sheets were played... The five songs that were played are written in separately again on the bottom, but whether they were going to play them all or just some I can't help but feel that D.C and later all of us with the "Vault got the short end of the choices that night. I always wonder what took them from what could have been a most Epic 30 song set back down to a 24 song set that night and cut:
Breath State Indifference In Hiding Footsteps Who You Are
WoW!!!
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1994 - Pensacola, Miami, Atlanta - 1995 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, New Orleans (Tickets to Phoenix, Las Cruces, Austin, Shows Canceled) - 1996 - Randalls Island, Randalls Island, Charlotte, N.Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale - 1997 - Oakland-1998 - Alpine Valley, Alpine Valley, Chicago, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach - 2000 - West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas (10th Anniversary Show) - 2003 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Camden, Camden, MSG, MSG - 2004 - Kissimmee, Fl - 2006 - Irving Plaza, Albany, Hartford, Denver, Denver, Las Vegas - 2007 - Ed w/ Jack Irons & Flea in LA - 2008 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Columbia, Camden, Camden, Washington D.C. - 2009 - L.A., San Diego, Philly Spectrum Night 3 & 4 - 2010 - New Orleans, Columbus, Indianapolis, Hartford, MSG, MSG - 2011 - Ed - Hartford, Providence, Boston - 2011 - Alpine Valley X2 (PJ20), Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver - 2012 - Ed - Ft. Lauderdale x2, - 2012 / 2014 Beautiful Daughter "Emily" born 11/07/12. On the bench for 3 years! She's really cute though! - 2015 - Mexico City - 2016 - Ft. Laud, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Greenville, Raleigh, Columbia, Philly 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2, Wrigley Night 1 & 2 - 2016 - MSG, San Francisco, San Francisco, Seattle, Seattle (TOTD) - 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
they didn't play very long sets in 98.. MSG II is one of the longest I think and is about 26 songs if I recall.. but to me, Ed's voice in that time period was at its peak, just listen to even flow from any 98 show.. much shorter, but so much passion and tightness (particularly Ed)..
they didn't play very long sets in 98.. MSG II is one of the longest I think and is about 26 songs if I recall.. but to me, Ed's voice in that time period was at its peak, just listen to even flow from any 98 show.. much shorter, but so much passion and tightness (particularly Ed)..
You are correct. The next two nights ended the tour and they were only 25 & 26 songs. What a show it could have been with Breath, In Hiding, Indifference, Who You Are, Footsteps as the five instead of the five they chose to play...
1994 - Pensacola, Miami, Atlanta - 1995 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, New Orleans (Tickets to Phoenix, Las Cruces, Austin, Shows Canceled) - 1996 - Randalls Island, Randalls Island, Charlotte, N.Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale - 1997 - Oakland-1998 - Alpine Valley, Alpine Valley, Chicago, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach - 2000 - West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas (10th Anniversary Show) - 2003 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Camden, Camden, MSG, MSG - 2004 - Kissimmee, Fl - 2006 - Irving Plaza, Albany, Hartford, Denver, Denver, Las Vegas - 2007 - Ed w/ Jack Irons & Flea in LA - 2008 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Columbia, Camden, Camden, Washington D.C. - 2009 - L.A., San Diego, Philly Spectrum Night 3 & 4 - 2010 - New Orleans, Columbus, Indianapolis, Hartford, MSG, MSG - 2011 - Ed - Hartford, Providence, Boston - 2011 - Alpine Valley X2 (PJ20), Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver - 2012 - Ed - Ft. Lauderdale x2, - 2012 / 2014 Beautiful Daughter "Emily" born 11/07/12. On the bench for 3 years! She's really cute though! - 2015 - Mexico City - 2016 - Ft. Laud, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Greenville, Raleigh, Columbia, Philly 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2, Wrigley Night 1 & 2 - 2016 - MSG, San Francisco, San Francisco, Seattle, Seattle (TOTD) - 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
They sound great Mike! If you run in to trouble with using Zomb let me know I can try to help you or I will send you out some CD's...
steved, I'm a little older as well and haven't heard of zomb...would you mind sending me directions on how to use it as well? I would really appreciate it!
They sound great Mike! If you run in to trouble with using Zomb let me know I can try to help you or I will send you out some CD's...
steved, I'm a little older as well and haven't heard of zomb...would you mind sending me directions on how to use it as well? I would really appreciate it!
message sent, good luck!
1994 - Pensacola, Miami, Atlanta - 1995 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, New Orleans (Tickets to Phoenix, Las Cruces, Austin, Shows Canceled) - 1996 - Randalls Island, Randalls Island, Charlotte, N.Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale - 1997 - Oakland-1998 - Alpine Valley, Alpine Valley, Chicago, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach - 2000 - West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas (10th Anniversary Show) - 2003 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Camden, Camden, MSG, MSG - 2004 - Kissimmee, Fl - 2006 - Irving Plaza, Albany, Hartford, Denver, Denver, Las Vegas - 2007 - Ed w/ Jack Irons & Flea in LA - 2008 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Columbia, Camden, Camden, Washington D.C. - 2009 - L.A., San Diego, Philly Spectrum Night 3 & 4 - 2010 - New Orleans, Columbus, Indianapolis, Hartford, MSG, MSG - 2011 - Ed - Hartford, Providence, Boston - 2011 - Alpine Valley X2 (PJ20), Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver - 2012 - Ed - Ft. Lauderdale x2, - 2012 / 2014 Beautiful Daughter "Emily" born 11/07/12. On the bench for 3 years! She's really cute though! - 2015 - Mexico City - 2016 - Ft. Laud, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Greenville, Raleigh, Columbia, Philly 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2, Wrigley Night 1 & 2 - 2016 - MSG, San Francisco, San Francisco, Seattle, Seattle (TOTD) - 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
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I personally have been always intrigued by missoula 93 and spokane 93, but that year has already been wasted by the latest vault..
Seattle 96? Both shows are already available in excellent aud recordings..
Budapest 96 in 2011 a really good aud recording surfaced (i will never listen anymore to the terrible aud source previously available)..
I personally would love some new zealand 95 to see the light of day..
I agree with what you wrote and also would add the performance on Seattle 96 in my opinion they were still warming up the new material and it wasn't played as well as later in the tour and they were still a little rusty overall that night if I recall.
The Charleston 96', Randall's Island 96' Shows are great. The Milwaukee Night 2 95', So many 94' shows with cool sets but you have to be careful with which nights Mike was playing with confidence and not to wasted! Asia 95', Some other 98' shows! The 11.17.93 New Orleans show is one of Mikes best performances of the tour in my opinion. So many better than what have been used already and what I fear they might choose next.
Definitely, NZ 1995.
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I know I am going off the reservation with this, but I am going through my Setlists photos just now and am reminded of how epic D.C. 98' could have been. The original encore sheet read the following:
Alive
Breath
State
Indifference
Betterman
In Hiding
Footsteps
Who You Are
I Got Shit
Soldier Of Love
Ledbetter
Only five were actually played:
I Got Shit
Betterman
Alive
Soldier Of Love
Ledbetter
Now I am not talking about potential encores written in on the bottom of the Main setlist. I am talking about a complete sheet labeled ENC 9/19. Now that would have made for a completely different "Vault". I also have the original main and encore Seltlists from the following two shows and ALL Encores on the Encore sheets were played... The five songs that were played are written in separately again on the bottom, but whether they were going to play them all or just some I can't help but feel that D.C and later all of us with the "Vault got the short end of the choices that night. I always wonder what took them from what could have been a most Epic 30 song set back down to a 24 song set that night and cut:
Breath
State
Indifference
In Hiding
Footsteps
Who You Are
WoW!!!