Bu$hleaguer at Arnhem

sliverstain

Bu$hleaguer was played in Arnhem. Fucking A. About time!

The not (barely) playing of this song since those cocks booed it in the states is, for me, the only gripe ive ever had with the band. They should have been playing it every godamned night since those so called "fans", a small minority i know, booed and jeered it back in 03. Fuck them, and fuck anybody who doesn't like the songs message.

Also lays to ground my plan of making a Bu$hleaguer sign for the Italia shows!

karma defect

sliverstain wrote:

Bu$hleaguer was played in Arnhem. Fucking A. About time!

The not (barely) playing of this song since those cocks booed it in the states is, for me, the only gripe ive ever had with the band. They should have been playing it every godamned night since those so called "fans", a small minority i know, booed and jeered it back in 03. Fuck them, and fuck anybody who doesn't like the songs message.

Also lays to ground my plan of making a Bu$hleaguer sign for the Italia shows!

I know what you mean man. Indeed fuck those who bood them for playing that song. If you don't like it for it's message then what the f*** are you doing listening to Pearl jam anyway.

I think you can't vote Bush and vote Eddie at the same time.

andych

thats always suprised me.
was it that tour that a large section of the crowd walked out during that song?
pearl jams message and vibe hardly go hand in hand with ultra right wing conservatism.

wendy1976

karma defect wrote:

I think you can't vote Bush and vote Eddie at the same time.

You are so right....and i think Ed made that extra clear when he spit a really big one right ontoo the mask last night....

karma defect

wendy1976 wrote:

You are so right....and i think Ed made that extra clear when he spit a really big one right ontoo the mask....

Yes and he got the love from the audience to go with it.:D

wendy1976

I wonder who has that mask....i thought i saw him field kicking it??I think that is a big collectors item!!!!

Dercheef

wendy1976 wrote:

I wonder who has that mask....i thought i saw him field kicking it??I think that is a big collectors item!!!!

A girl from a german pj board catched it. And a guy from there got ed's tambourine.

sliverstain

Wasn't Stian getting another Tambourine was it?

And yeah, I can't see, unless you're a part time "Ten" only fan, how you can be for Bush and War and Capitalism, and still be into PJ as a whole. It baffles me.

SheetsOfClay

This is a "bathroom" song for me. Every time it comes on (live or on CD) I take that opportunity to get up and go to the bathroom.

Even though I agree with the sentiments of the song 100%, I find it preachy, obvious, pretentious and cringe-inducing. Ed lyrics are usually much more subtle and well-crafted.

IMHO.

jambayleaf

They soundchecked it a few times in St Paul, so I knew they'd break it out again.

Abneriel

sliverstain wrote:

Wasn't Stian getting another Tambourine was it?

And yeah, I can't see, unless you're a part time "Ten" only fan, how you can be for Bush and War and Capitalism, and still be into PJ as a whole. It baffles me.

OMG OMG OMG!!! PJ has done a few "liberal, anti war" songs so all conservatives should stop listening!

certainly no one could be at the concerts to listen to the million other songs they sing that aren't political...or at least some that are and can be interpreted in different ways.

I'm sure Eddie still listens to The Ramones regardless of John Cummings' personal political views.

I'm not trying to talk politics, but seriously people, this whole "conservatives cannot listen to PJ" crapwagon is ridiculous.



"God bless President Bush, and God bless America" - Johnny Ramone

shove that one in your tailpipe!

FnCircus

jambayleaf wrote:

They soundchecked it a few times in St Paul, so I knew they'd break it out again.

They played in Denver this year (first night).....at the scene of the crime so to speak. Ed behaved himself though. LOL!

karma defect

Abneriel wrote:

OMG OMG OMG!!! PJ has done a few "liberal, anti war" songs so all conservatives should stop listening!

certainly no one could be at the concerts to listen to the million other songs they sing that aren't political...or at least some that are and can be interpreted in different ways.

I'm sure Eddie still listens to The Ramones regardless of John Cummings' personal political views.

I'm not trying to talk politics, but seriously people, this whole "conservatives cannot listen to PJ" crapwagon is ridiculous.



"God bless President Bush, and God bless America" - Johnny Ramone

shove that one in your tailpipe!

Well it isn't in just a few songs, it is in Pearl jam. I guess you have people that aren't that picky. I would dismiss a band that preaches war. I have a high standard that friends, family and everything else have to meet.
I guess that if you bless a man that is will to kill a band leader that isn't wouldn't bother you that much. Still it is a bit hypocritical. No matter I just can't see you doing anything other than disagree that it is so.

And as far as Bush goes, Even Jesus would never forgive what you do.

FnCircus

karma defect wrote:

And as far as Bush goes, Even Jesus would never forgive what you do.

well said.

SheetsOfClay

karma defect wrote:

And as far as Bush goes, Even Jesus would never forgive what you do.

I glad you feel you (and Dylan) can speak for Jesus.

FnCircus

SheetsOfClay wrote:

I glad you feel you (and Dylan) can speak for Jesus.

yeah, we're pretty tight.

liesandsays

sliverstain wrote:

The not (barely) playing of this song since those cocks booed it in the states is, for me, the only gripe ive ever had with the band.

In San Francisco Night 1 - trust me no one booed the song....in fact most of the crowd sang along....

Cosmo

liesandsays wrote:

In San Francisco Night 1 - trust me no one booed the song....in fact most of the crowd sang along....

...
Yeah... but, remember... San Francisco is not really part of America. It's San Francisco.
P.S. The greatest shows I went to this tour were the 3 shows in San Francisco. I love that city.

Abneriel

karma defect wrote:

Well it isn't in just a few songs, it is in Pearl jam. I guess you have people that aren't that picky. I would dismiss a band that preaches war. I have a high standard that friends, family and everything else have to meet.
I guess that if you bless a man that is will to kill a band leader that isn't wouldn't bother you that much. Still it is a bit hypocritical. No matter I just can't see you doing anything other than disagree that it is so.

And as far as Bush goes, Even Jesus would never forgive what you do.

fair enough...I guess people are just different

I don't worship (and I use worship lightly, not implying that you DO worship) either (PJ or Bush), but I have a love for the music that they produce that far outweighs the love I have for any other band.

Light_years

I think a lot of people out there are missing this big time. Eddie is all about thinking for yourself. You can always hear him talking about htis on the bootlegs and concerts and interviews. If you educate yourself on everything that is happening and you still support bush then thats fine.

He is just the leader of a band, just because he feels a certain way doesnt mean you have to as well in order to understad, or appreicated the music.

karma defect

Abneriel wrote:

fair enough...I guess people are just different

I don't worship (and I use worship lightly, not implying that you DO worship) either (PJ or Bush), but I have a love for the music that they produce that far outweighs the love I have for any other band.

Well at least that's something.:D;)

For me Pearl jam is more about the message and the emotion than purely about the music. It are songs with lyrics that grab me. If it is just for the music I have bands that are better, but Pearl jam gives me power through the words and those words could not have that effect if they said it was OK to fight a war. Anyway you don't need me understanding it to enjoy the music, so you keep enjoying it and I'll keep being amazed by the contrast.