President Obama claims, "America is not at war with Islam." Well, Islam is at war with America. We need to respond in kind.
Executes gays
Stones women to death
Kills people who try to leave
Religion of peace?
That's all in the Bible as well, and was all practiced at many points in history. In a couple hundred years Islam will catch up to how old Christianity is now, maybe then you can start judging.
Islam is at war with America? That is an unintelligent statement. Do you know how many Muslim practitioners there are in the world? Do you know where most of them live? Do you know anything about the subject or are you just pulling a Trump?
That article itself is an excellent example of extremism. Fight extremism with extremism doesn't really make much sense does it?
Right? You'd think that people would know better by now that fighting extremism with extremism is basically the cause of a large portion of the worst things in human history. And I'm saying that as someone absolutely does acknowledge that Islamic extremism is a big problem. Here in the AMT I once got absolutely roasted for saying that 20% of Muslims could be considered to have extremist views. It was a pretty hard time for me on the AMT. But that doesn't mean for one second, in my mind, that that should mean we have to start compromising our humanity and compassion and our common sense and start employing bigotry and an extremism of our own out of fear of that number.
Exactly, PJ_Soul.
There are extremists in all religious sects. Look at the Westboro baptists. But wait! Not all Christians are Westboro Baptists. And another thing to consider- what does addressing any particular group with venomous hateful bile result in? Will it somehow convert them? Not likely. In fact, more likely is this: the more you segregate and disparage a group like Muslims with hate and vile, the more likely you are to encourage some of the more everyday peaceful Muslims (i.e. most of them) into radical extremists. How freaking ironic is that?!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
In a random act of kindness, Muslim Americans are shattering everything Donald Trump and his supporters believe about them.
In the days following the mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, a coalition of Muslim-led groups in Southern California and elsewhere around the nation has committed to raising $100,000 for the families of the shooting victims. The money raised will go toward various expenses like funeral costs, medical bills, and rent/mortgage payments for households directly affected by the recent terrorist attack at the Inland Regional Medical center.
As of this writing, $97,000 has been raised — $88,000 from a LaunchGood campaign organized by “Muslims United for San Bernardino,” and another $10,000 from the website for MiNDS, which is a non-religious 501(c)(3) organization focusing on economic, medical, and educational needs of low-income residents in Pomona, Inland Empire, and Orange County. The LaunchGood fundraising campaign was initiated by MiNDS co-founder Dr. Faisal Qazi, a neurologist based in Pomona, California.
While the effort was originally concentrated in Southern California, Imam Mohammed Fatiqh, of the Islamic Institute of Orange County, helped make it a nationwide interfaith effort led by Muslims.
“This is something that affects all of us; it affects us as (U.S.) citizens,” Fatiqh told the LA Daily News. ““This particular incident affected us as Muslims. This is the response that everyone, especially Muslim Americans should (have) in every case, regardless of who the perpetrators are.”
This outpouring of kindness from American Muslims paints a drastically different picture of Muslims than the image portrayed by Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, who called for banning Muslims from entering the US yesterday after it was revealed that the perpetrators of the San Bernardino shooting were Muslim. Trump has also called for every Muslim in the US to register in a database, and for each Muslim to publicly identify themselves as such. Trump’s campaign made it clear that US citizens who practiced Islam would be banned from re-entering the US if they left the country.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
In a random act of kindness, Muslim Americans are shattering everything Donald Trump and his supporters believe about them.
In the days following the mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, a coalition of Muslim-led groups in Southern California and elsewhere around the nation has committed to raising $100,000 for the families of the shooting victims. The money raised will go toward various expenses like funeral costs, medical bills, and rent/mortgage payments for households directly affected by the recent terrorist attack at the Inland Regional Medical center.
As of this writing, $97,000 has been raised — $88,000 from a LaunchGood campaign organized by “Muslims United for San Bernardino,” and another $10,000 from the website for MiNDS, which is a non-religious 501(c)(3) organization focusing on economic, medical, and educational needs of low-income residents in Pomona, Inland Empire, and Orange County. The LaunchGood fundraising campaign was initiated by MiNDS co-founder Dr. Faisal Qazi, a neurologist based in Pomona, California.
While the effort was originally concentrated in Southern California, Imam Mohammed Fatiqh, of the Islamic Institute of Orange County, helped make it a nationwide interfaith effort led by Muslims.
“This is something that affects all of us; it affects us as (U.S.) citizens,” Fatiqh told the LA Daily News. ““This particular incident affected us as Muslims. This is the response that everyone, especially Muslim Americans should (have) in every case, regardless of who the perpetrators are.”
This outpouring of kindness from American Muslims paints a drastically different picture of Muslims than the image portrayed by Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, who called for banning Muslims from entering the US yesterday after it was revealed that the perpetrators of the San Bernardino shooting were Muslim. Trump has also called for every Muslim in the US to register in a database, and for each Muslim to publicly identify themselves as such. Trump’s campaign made it clear that US citizens who practiced Islam would be banned from re-entering the US if they left the country.
Too many Americans don't want to hear this. It invalidates their hatred.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Carter banned muslims, I'm trying to find out why so many liberals are devoid of facts and history. Lets go ahead and import more potential terrorists, said no american ever.
Carter banned muslims, I'm trying to find out why so many liberals are devoid of facts and history. Lets go ahead and import more potential terrorists, said no american ever.
Carter banned muslims, I'm trying to find out why so many liberals are devoid of facts and history. Lets go ahead and import more potential terrorists, said no american ever.
Carter banned Iranians, not Muslims.
Biiiiig difference! (still don't approve of that though... there were Iranians that would have been good to bring in back then; many wanted to defect for various reasons)
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Carter banned muslims, I'm trying to find out why so many liberals are devoid of facts and history. Lets go ahead and import more potential terrorists, said no american ever.
The photo in your avatar is awesome. I am a huge fan of The D.
It is scary how much influence extremists like Rush and Hannity have on the "intellectual" output of conservatives. Rush was just blathering on today about Carter, without making the distinction of nation vs religion, and I just knew it would be making the rounds tonight and over the next few days. I have seen it a half dozen times on these boards, and it is just scary.
Know a guy that's forced to listen to rush all day due to working constructing with boss that blasts it on radio. He despises Obama and had to help him out with a few facts. Was so sad. But Rush gives his audience what they want.
Know a guy that's forced to listen to rush all day due to working constructing with boss that blasts it on radio. He despises Obama and had to help him out with a few facts. Was so sad. But Rush gives his audience what they want.
I listen almost every day, I drive around a good bit for work. He is a real character, I often think of the Family Guy episode where Rush and Michael Moore turn out to be the same person, playing both sides and trolling the country... He's such an extreme caricature of a person that it almost seems like he has to be doing it in jest. It would be funny if there weren't so many fritatas running around taking it seriously.
Can a Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically - no, because his allegiance is to Allah.
Religiously - no, because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Qur'an 2:256).
Scripturally - no, because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Qur'an.
Geographically - no, because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no, because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no, because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders) who teach the annihilation of Israel and the destruction of America, the great Satan. Domestically - no, because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat his wife when she disobeys him (Qur'an 4:34).
Intellectually - no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Qur'an does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist! Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no, because when we declare 'one nation under God,' we are referring to the Christian's God and not Allah.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans/Canadians; they cannot and will not integrate into the great melting pot of America.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. Muslims everywhere have said they will destroy us from within.
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There are extremists in all religious sects. Look at the Westboro baptists. But wait! Not all Christians are Westboro Baptists. And another thing to consider- what does addressing any particular group with venomous hateful bile result in? Will it somehow convert them? Not likely. In fact, more likely is this: the more you segregate and disparage a group like Muslims with hate and vile, the more likely you are to encourage some of the more everyday peaceful Muslims (i.e. most of them) into radical extremists. How freaking ironic is that?!
In a random act of kindness, Muslim Americans are shattering everything Donald Trump and his supporters believe about them.
In the days following the mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, a coalition of Muslim-led groups in Southern California and elsewhere around the nation has committed to raising $100,000 for the families of the shooting victims. The money raised will go toward various expenses like funeral costs, medical bills, and rent/mortgage payments for households directly affected by the recent terrorist attack at the Inland Regional Medical center.
As of this writing, $97,000 has been raised — $88,000 from a LaunchGood campaign organized by “Muslims United for San Bernardino,” and another $10,000 from the website for MiNDS, which is a non-religious 501(c)(3) organization focusing on economic, medical, and educational needs of low-income residents in Pomona, Inland Empire, and Orange County. The LaunchGood fundraising campaign was initiated by MiNDS co-founder Dr. Faisal Qazi, a neurologist based in Pomona, California.
While the effort was originally concentrated in Southern California, Imam Mohammed Fatiqh, of the Islamic Institute of Orange County, helped make it a nationwide interfaith effort led by Muslims.
“This is something that affects all of us; it affects us as (U.S.) citizens,” Fatiqh told the LA Daily News. ““This particular incident affected us as Muslims. This is the response that everyone, especially Muslim Americans should (have) in every case, regardless of who the perpetrators are.”
This outpouring of kindness from American Muslims paints a drastically different picture of Muslims than the image portrayed by Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, who called for banning Muslims from entering the US yesterday after it was revealed that the perpetrators of the San Bernardino shooting were Muslim. Trump has also called for every Muslim in the US to register in a database, and for each Muslim to publicly identify themselves as such. Trump’s campaign made it clear that US citizens who practiced Islam would be banned from re-entering the US if they left the country.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
National Review.....lobotomy time
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
(still don't approve of that though... there were Iranians that would have been good to bring in back then; many wanted to defect for various reasons)
It is scary how much influence extremists like Rush and Hannity have on the "intellectual" output of conservatives. Rush was just blathering on today about Carter, without making the distinction of nation vs religion, and I just knew it would be making the rounds tonight and over the next few days.
I have seen it a half dozen times on these boards, and it is just scary.
Guess that makes me a "Muslover".
Theologically - no, because his allegiance is to Allah.
Religiously - no, because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Qur'an 2:256).
Scripturally - no, because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Qur'an.
Geographically - no, because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no, because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no, because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders) who teach the annihilation of Israel and the destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no, because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat his wife when she disobeys him (Qur'an 4:34).
Intellectually - no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Qur'an does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist! Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no, because when we declare 'one nation under God,' we are referring to the Christian's God and not Allah.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans/Canadians; they cannot and will not integrate into the great melting pot of America.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. Muslims everywhere have said they will destroy us from within.
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