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  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    No
    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,404
    No
    lolobugg said:

    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.
    Parachutes is an absolute energy killer at shows.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    edited February 2016
    No
    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.
    Parachutes is an absolute energy killer at shows.
    I disagree.. I requested it for Cincinnati and I thought it was awesome.
    just realized out of the 10 times Help Help was played I have seen it 2 times.
    1 time too many and def a energy killer at PJ20. I was 2nd row so I can confirm this.

    EDIT: I was actually lawn that night :lol: but between that and Arms Aloft. :sleeping:
    Post edited by lolobugg on

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  • KP_McMinnKP_McMinn Posts: 748
    Yes
    ?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,404
    No
    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.
    Parachutes is an absolute energy killer at shows.
    I disagree.. I requested it for Cincinnati and I thought it was awesome.
    just realized out of the 10 times Help Help was played I have seen it 2 times.
    1 time too many and def a energy killer at PJ20. I was 2nd row so I can confirm this.

    EDIT: I was actually lawn that night :lol: but between that and Arms Aloft. :sleeping:
    Arms aloft was the absolute worst!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    No
    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.
    Parachutes is an absolute energy killer at shows.
    I disagree.. I requested it for Cincinnati and I thought it was awesome.
    just realized out of the 10 times Help Help was played I have seen it 2 times.
    1 time too many and def a energy killer at PJ20. I was 2nd row so I can confirm this.

    EDIT: I was actually lawn that night :lol: but between that and Arms Aloft. :sleeping:
    Arms aloft was the absolute worst!!!
    possibly the worst setlist choice in history?
    we should put it to a vote.

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    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

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    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,283
    No
    No, Help Help is terrible.
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,826
    No
    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.
    Parachutes is an absolute energy killer at shows.
    I disagree.. I requested it for Cincinnati and I thought it was awesome.
    just realized out of the 10 times Help Help was played I have seen it 2 times.
    1 time too many and def a energy killer at PJ20. I was 2nd row so I can confirm this.

    EDIT: I was actually lawn that night :lol: but between that and Arms Aloft. :sleeping:
    Arms aloft was the absolute worst!!!
    possibly the worst setlist choice in history?
    we should put it to a vote.
    No question. Absolute worst setlist choice in history. If they would have went into Corduroy, that place would have exploded.
  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    No
    Indifference71 said:

    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.
    Parachutes is an absolute energy killer at shows.
    I disagree.. I requested it for Cincinnati and I thought it was awesome.
    just realized out of the 10 times Help Help was played I have seen it 2 times.
    1 time too many and def a energy killer at PJ20. I was 2nd row so I can confirm this.

    EDIT: I was actually lawn that night :lol: but between that and Arms Aloft. :sleeping:
    Arms aloft was the absolute worst!!!
    possibly the worst setlist choice in history?
    we should put it to a vote.
    No question. Absolute worst setlist choice in history. If they would have went into Corduroy, that place would have exploded.
    Gotta wonder what he was thinking as Corduroy was the usual suspect as the second song...
    let's change it up? ok.. but with a obscure cover song? a not very exciting cover song... huh
    the world may never know.

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    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • mrluthor9mrluthor9 Posts: 264
    Yes
    Anything off of Riot Act is a bonus.
    All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives,.....choosing the shiny ones instead,......
  • corduroykellycorduroykelly Posts: 668
    No
    No
  • jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,942
    Yes
    If the Donald is still increasing his stronghold then, yes, it's apropos.
    Tell me lies....tell me WHY....reservoir of hate and fear....we've been deceived.
    Plus I'd like to hear Mike get bizzy during the build-up at the end of the song.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,152
    Yes
    lolobugg said:

    Indifference71 said:

    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.
    Parachutes is an absolute energy killer at shows.
    I disagree.. I requested it for Cincinnati and I thought it was awesome.
    just realized out of the 10 times Help Help was played I have seen it 2 times.
    1 time too many and def a energy killer at PJ20. I was 2nd row so I can confirm this.

    EDIT: I was actually lawn that night :lol: but between that and Arms Aloft. :sleeping:
    Arms aloft was the absolute worst!!!
    possibly the worst setlist choice in history?
    we should put it to a vote.
    No question. Absolute worst setlist choice in history. If they would have went into Corduroy, that place would have exploded.
    Gotta wonder what he was thinking as Corduroy was the usual suspect as the second song...
    let's change it up? ok.. but with a obscure cover song? a not very exciting cover song... huh
    the world may never know.
    And Corduroy wasn't played at all that weekend!

    Almost 5 years later and it still doesn't make sense to me
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  • DPrival78DPrival78 Posts: 2,263
    Yes
    love the outro to this one.. whole band just goes off.

    ..the more we read, we've been deceived, and every day it becomes clearer.

    ain't that the truth.
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    No
    jjflash said:

    If the Donald is still increasing his stronghold then, yes, it's apropos.
    Tell me lies....tell me WHY....reservoir of hate and fear....we've been deceived.
    Plus I'd like to hear Mike get bizzy during the build-up at the end of the song.

    I would prefer Trumpleaguer instead. complete with a mask of das fuhrer's nasty visage.

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    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • 3days3days Posts: 1,158
    Yes
    Definitely! ... if the band wants to. Good lyrics, good groove, and one of my favorites off Riot Act.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,404
    No
    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    lolobugg said:

    KC138045 said:

    1STmammal2wearPants said:

    I find Get Right and Evacuation to be far more forgettable. This one, particularly the last minute of it, rocks. Fo sho.

    Take out Get Right and add Parachutes and I agree
    Parachutes is awesome
    Get Right and Help Help not so much.
    Parachutes is an absolute energy killer at shows.
    I disagree.. I requested it for Cincinnati and I thought it was awesome.
    just realized out of the 10 times Help Help was played I have seen it 2 times.
    1 time too many and def a energy killer at PJ20. I was 2nd row so I can confirm this.

    EDIT: I was actually lawn that night :lol: but between that and Arms Aloft. :sleeping:
    Arms aloft was the absolute worst!!!
    possibly the worst setlist choice in history?
    we should put it to a vote.
    absolute worst song choice ever! imagine if they had gone into go or corduroy? holy shit that place would have melted.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,635
    I'm astounded at how polar the opinions are on this one! Crazy..
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  • 3days3days Posts: 1,158
    Yes
    Why do people hate "Arms Aloft" so much? I don't think it's a bad song, or a bad cover.
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    No
    No. Its great on the album, but played live it is not good. Completely deflate both the crowd and any concert momentum.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    No
    no its bad....
  • tylermooretylermoore Posts: 921
    Yes
    SVRDhand13 said:

    I'd vote yes for any song in their catalogue.

    This guy is smart.
  • deadendpdeadendp Posts: 10,434
    Yes
    I love Riot Act. The disc is in my truck right now. I've been listening to it lately as I drive my daughter to school.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,190
    Yes
    3days said:

    Why do people hate "Arms Aloft" so much? I don't think it's a bad song, or a bad cover.

    Don't think anyone hates it..?

    Public Image on the other hand... unnecessary cover. Played to much that tour.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JuannicenboimJuannicenboim Posts: 60
    Yes
    one of my favourite pearl jam songs. when i met jeff i requested help help, but i was so nervous i said to him "play lies, lies".
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,823
    Yes
    Juannicenboim said:

    one of my favourite pearl jam songs. when i met jeff i requested help help, but i was so nervous i said to him "play lies, lies".

    That's funny. :smile:
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  • JuannicenboimJuannicenboim Posts: 60
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    3days said:

    Why do people hate "Arms Aloft" so much? I don't think it's a bad song, or a bad cover.

    Don't think anyone hates it..?

    Public Image on the other hand... unnecessary cover. Played to much that tour.
    public image is one of the best covers theyve ever done, wish i couldve seen that one live...thats my 2 cents..
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,190
    Yes
    Juannicenboim said:

    one of my favourite pearl jam songs. when i met jeff i requested help help, but i was so nervous i said to him "play lies, lies".

    Haha!

    I held up a tote bag at a show with "PLAY HELP HELP" written out on it and Jeff saw it.

    Then, later at the show Eddie started talking about playing a Jeff-song they didn't play often and I was like OH MY GOOOOOOOOD... and then they played Pilate. Bittersweet :)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JuannicenboimJuannicenboim Posts: 60
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Juannicenboim said:

    one of my favourite pearl jam songs. when i met jeff i requested help help, but i was so nervous i said to him "play lies, lies".

    Haha!

    I held up a tote bag at a show with "PLAY HELP HELP" written out on it and Jeff saw it.

    Then, later at the show Eddie started talking about playing a Jeff-song they didn't play often and I was like OH MY GOOOOOOOOD... and then they played Pilate. Bittersweet :)
    not bad!
    Buenos Aires 11/25/05
    Buenos Aires 11/26/05
    Porto Alegre 11/28/05
    La Plata 11/13/11
    Buenos Aires 4/3/13
    Berlin 6/26/14
    Santiago 11/4/15
    La Plata 11/7/15
    Sao Paulo 11/14/15
    Chicago 08/20/16
    Chicago 08/22/16
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,190
    Yes
    YES!!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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