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Should "Help Help" be played during 2016 tour?

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,190
edited December 2015 in The Porch
Should it?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

Should "Help Help" be played during 2016 tour? 178 votes

Yes
71%
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No
28%
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Yes
    With Arc to follow.
  • I'm a TruckI'm a Truck Posts: 3,508
    I just don't get it?
  • MS23098MS23098 Posts: 102
    The man they call my enemy I've seen his face he looks just like me. A mirror . This song is great I approve of this
  • javis el errantejavis el errante Posts: 6,136
    Yes
    Of course they should Play it, the band awarded Latin American fans by playing very weird stuff in every show, they should stay on the same track and start playing binaural and riot act all around the globe...
    ... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...

  • shetellsherselfshetellsherself Posts: 8,818
    Yes
    LOVE this song.
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    11/19/12 EV solo Tulsa
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    10/08/14 Tulsa 10/09/14 Lincoln
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    4/16/16 Greenville 4/28/16 Philly 1 4/29/16 Philly 2 5/1/16 MSG 1 5/2/16 MSG 2 8/7/16 Fenway 2 8/20/16 Wrigley 1
    4/7/17 RRHOF New York City
    9/2/18 Fenway 1 9/4/2018 Fenway 2
    9/18/21 Asbury Park
    2/4/22 EV Earthlings NYC 2/6/22 EV Earthlings Newark 9/11/22 MSG 9/14/22 Camden
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,450
    No
    no, i think it is one of the worst songs PJ has ever put on an album. terrible in my opinion
  • samjamsamjam Posts: 9,283
    edited December 2015
    Yes
    Why the hell not?!? I'm down.
    Post edited by samjam on
    "Sometimes you find yourself having to put all your faith in no faith."
    ~not a dude~
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  • TL170678TL170678 Posts: 422
    Yes
    Denver 03 version made me love this song
  • diamond_marmaladediamond_marmalade Posts: 421
    Yes
    This song has grown on me over the years. It would be great to hear it played more.
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  • WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Posts: 4,307
    Yes
    You ask the wrong question...
    Should Riot Act, from start to finnish be played during 2016 tour?
    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

  • WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Posts: 4,307
    Yes
    Du skulle följt med till Alpine ;-)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAulY7rl03Q
    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

  • jnikojniko Posts: 298
    Yes
    Awesome video. One of the highlights of night 1 for me. The end of that song just is off the charts.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,404
    No
    WhyNotSweden said:

    You ask the wrong question...
    Should Riot Act, from start to finnish be played during 2016 tour?

    Absolutely not and the band knows it.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • BeerBaronBeerBaron Posts: 4,097
    Yes
    YES. PLEASE.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Yes
    jniko said:

    The end of that song just is off the charts.

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,190
    Yes
    mcgruff10 said:

    WhyNotSweden said:

    You ask the wrong question...
    Should Riot Act, from start to finnish be played during 2016 tour?

    Absolutely not and the band knows it.
    image
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,255
    Yes
    More Riot Act and Binaural please!
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,190
    Yes
    WhyNotSweden said:

    Du skulle följt med till Alpine ;-)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAulY7rl03Q

    Hehe. Money money money, its so funny...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,404
    No
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    WhyNotSweden said:

    You ask the wrong question...
    Should Riot Act, from start to finnish be played during 2016 tour?

    Absolutely not and the band knows it.
    image
    If riot act was played in its entirety I would guess close to 98% of the crowd would be bored as fuck.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PapPap Posts: 28,823
    Yes
    mcgruff10 said:

    If riot act was played in its entirety I would guess close to 98% of the crowd would be bored as fuck.

    :open_mouth: Blasphemy! :nuh_uh:

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  • PapPap Posts: 28,823
    Yes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gub2rDV3wsk

    Relevant as ever: I don't have enemies... So don't speak for me...
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024
  • vest71vest71 Posts: 239
    Yes
    Always loved That song
    Burn my eyes and try to blind me
    Bury me so they won't find me
    Try to suck my power empty
    Got no crown of thorns on me
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,190
    Yes
    mcgruff10 said:

    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    WhyNotSweden said:

    You ask the wrong question...
    Should Riot Act, from start to finnish be played during 2016 tour?

    Absolutely not and the band knows it.
    image
    If riot act was played in its entirety I would guess close to 98% of the crowd would be bored as fuck.
    They can frame it with 2x Evenflows and I bet they'll be alright :)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Yes
    This might sound crazy... but riot act might be my 2nd favorite album behind No Code... I know, crazy right? But seriously, I think it's easily the most underrated album in their catalog

    And I still don't see them ever playing it in entirety... it would have to be at some strange small venue 10c only type of thing, otherwise half the arena would take a 54 minute piss LOL

    now me on the other hand, i wouldn't move from my seat
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,404
    No
    my2hands said:

    This might sound crazy... but riot act might be my 2nd favorite album behind No Code... I know, crazy right? But seriously, I think it's easily the most underrated album in their catalog

    And I still don't see them ever playing it in entirety... it would have to be at some strange small venue 10c only type of thing, otherwise half the arena would take a 54 minute piss LOL

    now me on the other hand, i wouldn't move from my seat

    See even you admit you d be sitting down the whole time!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    Yes
    I wish they would play almost everything they have put out. It would be great to have them mix it up even more than they already do.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,152
    Yes
    I'd vote yes for any song in their catalogue.
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  • gettingrightgettingright Posts: 550
    No
    I'm a Truck said:

    I just don't get it?

    Personally I rather enjoy the depth of thinking the question is begging of the reader. One must carefully and critically consider the value of the song played live in order to truly decide whether the song really should (emphasis added) or should not (emphasis added) be played on the tour in 2016. Next, one must juxtapose these alternate realities to determine which show would bring the most utility to the overall setlist. Not a simple task, however, when the realization sets in that there are not simply two separate realities but thousands maybe millions when one must consider a number of variables such as song location in the set list, surrounding songs, the song it may have replaced. Furthermore, one must be open to the possibility that they play the song more than once during the show, or even that they play it for three hours straight and say goodnight. Will I enjoy it more if I wait until 2017 or 2018 or some other year? Once one considers and places a value on every possibility, one must now determine the realative probability of each possibility expressed as a decimal. Then by multiplying the enjoyment value by the probability one can calculate an average number of probability along with value of enjoyment. This is where some bias will be introduced as the person calculating will have to decide what average number must be reached it order to decide if the song should or should not be played.

    After careful consideration and calculation I came to the conclusion that no they should not play this song at any point on the 2016 tour. Fuck this song.

    "...what a different life had i not found this love with you..."
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,190
    Yes
    mcgruff10 said:

    my2hands said:

    This might sound crazy... but riot act might be my 2nd favorite album behind No Code... I know, crazy right? But seriously, I think it's easily the most underrated album in their catalog

    And I still don't see them ever playing it in entirety... it would have to be at some strange small venue 10c only type of thing, otherwise half the arena would take a 54 minute piss LOL

    now me on the other hand, i wouldn't move from my seat

    See even you admit you d be sitting down the whole time!
    No Code doesn't have more hits or rockers than Riot Act, and that worked out fine it seems.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,437
    Yes
    Going beyond the idea of playing just Help, Help and Riot Act in its entirety, I think they could pull it off but to they have to play all 15 songs (or 14 if they decided to omit Arc) in order, with no other songs played in between. I think it would be cool if they played every song from this album (and all the other albums for that matter) but scatter them throughout the set.
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