Canadian Politics Redux

PJ_Soul

Yes, overall, Thirty's comment was 100% not useful or constructive.

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PJ_Soul said:

Yes, overall, Thirty's comment was 100% not useful or constructive.

I'll retract it with full apology if I'm proven wrong.

PJ_Soul

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PJ_Soul said:

Yes, overall, Thirty's comment was 100% not useful or constructive.

I'll retract it with full apology if I'm proven wrong.

Either way, I would still love to see the quote where Trudeau said ISIS terrorists would be great voices for Canada.

Meltdown99

Also, As an Ontario resident, we do a poor job helping people with mental health problems...not saying that's what this is, but a real possibility.  I have a sister in Toronto, I touched base, she is good...

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PJ_Soul said:

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Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

DarthMaeglin

Regardless of his motivation, fuck the motherfucker, throw the book at him, since it was clearly intentional. Used to work around the corner from where it happened.

PJ_Soul

I think all the provinces do a shit job when it comes to mental health problems.
I do indeed assume it was a terrorist attack (mentally ill culprit or not), just because that what all signs point to. I definitely see no need to turn that assumption into anything snidely political though. That is just super divisive, while the dead bodies are still lying on the sidewalk.

PJ_Soul

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PJ_Soul said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).

DarthMaeglin

Watching the local news now, it’s at least a bit heartening to hear how bystanders sprung into action to help the injured.

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DarthMaeglin said:

Regardless of his motivation, fuck the motherfucker, throw the book at him, since it was clearly intentional. Used to work around the corner from where it happened.

He was begging to be shot. We should have obliged him.

A parasite.  

DarthMaeglin

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DarthMaeglin said:

Regardless of his motivation, fuck the motherfucker, throw the book at him, since it was clearly intentional. Used to work around the corner from where it happened.

He was begging to be shot. We should have obliged him.

A parasite.  

Yeah, I just saw the video. Better he suffer in prison, in my opinion, as gratifying as his death might have been.

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PJ_Soul said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).

How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.

It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.

josevolution

fucking sad , thoughts with anyone affected by this ...Cowardly act ..

PJ_Soul

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PJ_Soul said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).

How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.

It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against radicalism within Canada."

There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.

I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.

I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.

DarthMaeglin

They’ve identified the perpetrator, don’t want to give his name, though, to try to deny him any “fame”, might I suggest we keep the name out of the discussion/thread?

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PJ_Soul said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).

How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.

It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against radicalism within Canada."

There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.

I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.

I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.

Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.

Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these. 

dignin

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PJ_Soul said:

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PJ_Soul said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).

How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.

It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against radicalism within Canada."

There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.

I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.

I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.

Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.

Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these. 

I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.

He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).

How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.

It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against radicalism within Canada."

There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.

I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.

I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.

Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.

Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these. 

I didn't say there is a start time. I don't believe in that. I meant it's the worst possible time to say specifically what you said because you don't even know if anyone connected to ISIS had anything to do with it.

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dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).

How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.

It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against radicalism within Canada."

There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.

I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.

I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.

Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.

Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these. 

I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.

He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.

Maybe. Likely the exception though right? Not every ex neo-nazi will have the skill set or even the will to begin undoing the damage they caused in their previous life.

If I recall correctly, there was almost a couple hundred Canadians that left to go be extremists. Most of those people aren't coming back to Canada because they have had a change of heart... they're coming back to Canada because their lives were in peril (not exactly the altruistic motivation you're suggesting). 

PJ_Soul

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dignin said:

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PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Looks like another van terrorist attack, in Toronto. 9 dead, 16 injured (as of right now).

Yup.

Hopefully it's not one of those ISIS guys Trudeau thought was going to be a great voice for Canada.

Trudeau said ISIS soldiers were going to be great voices for Canada?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24980/justin-trudeau-returning-isis-fighters-theyll-be-emily-zanotti

I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).

How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.

It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against radicalism within Canada."

There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.

I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.

I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.

Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.

Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these. 

I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.

He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.

Maybe. Likely the exception though right? Not every ex neo-nazi will have the skill set or even the will to begin undoing the damage they caused in their previous life.

If I recall correctly, there was almost a couple hundred Canadians that left to go be extremists. Most of those people aren't coming back to Canada because they have had a change of heart... they're coming back to Canada because their lives were in peril (not exactly the altruistic motivation you're suggesting). 

And keep in mind that Trudeau's idea was never for every single one of these people act as voices for non-radicalization. He suggested that they could, not that they all would. Obviously.