That doesn't mean he is of the opinion all people who teach their children about god are child abusers come on edit - why would you disagree with the child abuse part of hell in eternity?
The hell are you on about? Pretty clear what he said and meant.
Now back to your hard-on for keeping to topic.
Hedo, I am not doing this again with you. Either you post what you think or don't.
Again, the hell are you on about? Doing what exactly with me?
Exchanging thoughts, words?
I speak my mind - whether you get it or not is on you.
I support PP and the child abuse premise is bullshit.
That doesn't mean he is of the opinion all people who teach their children about god are child abusers come on edit - why would you disagree with the child abuse part of hell in eternity?
The hell are you on about? Pretty clear what he said and meant.
Now back to your hard-on for keeping to topic.
Hedo, I am not doing this again with you. Either you post what you think or don't.
Again, the hell are you on about? Doing what exactly with me?
Exchanging thoughts, words?
I speak my mind - whether you get it or not is on you.
I support PP and the child abuse premise is bullshit.
Supporting PP involves access to abortion/birth control no strings attached. You support that right? I do.
That doesn't mean he is of the opinion all people who teach their children about god are child abusers come on edit - why would you disagree with the child abuse part of hell in eternity?
The hell are you on about? Pretty clear what he said and meant.
Now back to your hard-on for keeping to topic.
Hedo, I am not doing this again with you. Either you post what you think or don't.
Again, the hell are you on about? Doing what exactly with me?
Exchanging thoughts, words?
I speak my mind - whether you get it or not is on you.
I support PP and the child abuse premise is bullshit.
Supporting PP involves access to abortion/birth control no strings attached. You support that right? I do.
If you haven't gotten any of what I've said through this, perhaps you're wasted, drunk, posturing for ego's sake, enjoying acting like an asshole, on another plane or just not paying attention.
That doesn't mean he is of the opinion all people who teach their children about god are child abusers come on edit - why would you disagree with the child abuse part of hell in eternity?
The hell are you on about? Pretty clear what he said and meant.
Now back to your hard-on for keeping to topic.
Hedo, I am not doing this again with you. Either you post what you think or don't.
Again, the hell are you on about? Doing what exactly with me?
Exchanging thoughts, words?
I speak my mind - whether you get it or not is on you.
I support PP and the child abuse premise is bullshit.
Supporting PP involves access to abortion/birth control no strings attached. You support that right? I do.
If you haven't gotten any of what I've said through this, perhaps you're wasted, drunk, posturing for ego's sake, enjoying acting like an asshole, on another plane or just not paying attention.
That doesn't mean he is of the opinion all people who teach their children about god are child abusers come on edit - why would you disagree with the child abuse part of hell in eternity?
The hell are you on about? Pretty clear what he said and meant.
Now back to your hard-on for keeping to topic.
Hedo, I am not doing this again with you. Either you post what you think or don't.
Again, the hell are you on about? Doing what exactly with me?
Exchanging thoughts, words?
I speak my mind - whether you get it or not is on you.
I support PP and the child abuse premise is bullshit.
Supporting PP involves access to abortion/birth control no strings attached. You support that right? I do.
If you haven't gotten any of what I've said through this, perhaps you're wasted, drunk, posturing for ego's sake, enjoying acting like an asshole, on another plane or just not paying attention.
One or many could apply - take your pick.
I guess this means you don't have an answer.
I guess this means you don't have the capacity to read and take in what is posted.
One day, maybe?
Not going to pursue this point anymore. Have a great night.
You're fighting a losing battle. You will never get the believers to see, let alone accept your side. I agree with all you say. 'What a child should be taught is that religion exists; that some people believe this and some people believe that, What a child should never be taught is that you are a Catholic or Muslim (insert religion here) child, therefore that is what you believe. That's child abuse. Teaching children religion would help them understand literature
Smile, nod and back away from the religious zombie talk that others have believed from their parents teachings.
There's no battle here except for some ridiculous assumptions being made by those who think anyone coming from a different view is a maroon, to put it lightly.
Religious zombie talk? Who's been spouting off here? Jesus, I've seen more from those who are against any and all religions do that.
This agnostic was raised a Jew - no fears or insecurities on that front - with encouragement to seek my own way as I got older. So, I'm not a "believer" but would never be so fucking rude to anyone who lives their lives peacefully, with or without religion.
Please, do back away or come back to discuss with some semblance of courtesy.
I'll be lighting a Passover candle tonight in honor of my dad.
It's not a different veiw. There is no comparison in believing in science and observable facts and beleiving in zombie Jesus's and world being created in 7 days. It's NOT opinion.
Realize defending PP and believing in the Bible must be doubling for many. Hell juggling reason and belief in Gods has to be a bitch. So courtesy? Fk any conversations challenging these beleifs gets same response, be nice and let us believe what we want. NO cause these beleifs create situation where we have an organization that protects women's health being attacked successfully by CHRISTIANS.
Admit it or not insecurity drives need to protecting gods. You know this. And Instilling this gear onto ones children is wrong.
Never back away so I don't hurt feelings. Fk the bible and all the gods and holy books. All bullshit.
Why are you guys even fighting about religion in a thread about planned parenthood
because some people bring it up in every single thread, relevance or no.
Brought up in subjects that are related and driven by religion. There's a theme to many of societies ills and it's not discussed enough because so many rely on their security blankets though this blanket causes so much unnecessary strife/pain.
I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".
Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.
Fuck all religions and there is no God.
My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.
Now what? Shame on her?
I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.
Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.
And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.
As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.
I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.
My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.
How would you know what she feels? She does not have guilt, at least overwhelmingly. She has a myriad of feelings, still. Thirty-something years later. They are not borne of religion, and that's my point - there's an assumption that it's inherently connected.
It is not.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "what happened to you".
If you're calling my parents child abusers, fuck that. I know what a child abuser is.
Rarely do I take offense to the opinions of people I don't really know, but that, callen, is utter bullshit. Keep your views on this tight or expand them a bit, it's up to you.
Of course it's tied to religion. It's the Christians shutting PP down.
And Again with the irony. My opinions are bull shit?? Really?? For saying this magical zombie god belief is horse poop?
I have siblings that are currently fucking up their children's lives by feeding this bullshit and have told them as well. So yes anyone that Instills their fears and insecurities to their children are child abusers. Period. It's not fair for the kids. "Mommy cant handle the Truth so gonna make sure my little Timmy has same shit to deal with for the rest of his life". Weak sauce.
the opinion of "all people who teach their children about god are child abusers" is the bullshit part. because, essentially, you are calling my wife and my parents child abusers. that's fucking laughable. making blanket statements like that is idiotic at best.
Call it a different word but having a human instill fear of eternal damnation fir being bad when they know they will sin and deal with all this fake bullshit is wrong. Kids get these totally irrational stories in the bible that defies all they will learn in school. Why do this to your child? Same shit with Santa Claus and that evil elf on a shelf.
Derailing? Not really, its the self righteous Christians that are causing increased teen pregnancy, STD's and birth defects. But woo rah go zombie Jesus.
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Exchanging thoughts, words?
I speak my mind - whether you get it or not is on you.
I support PP and the child abuse premise is bullshit.
You support that right?
I do.
One or many could apply - take your pick.
One day, maybe?
Not going to pursue this point anymore. Have a great night.
Sorry, couldn't resist. Carry on friends!
Realize defending PP and believing in the Bible must be doubling for many. Hell juggling reason and belief in Gods has to be a bitch. So courtesy? Fk any conversations challenging these beleifs gets same response, be nice and let us believe what we want. NO cause these beleifs create situation where we have an organization that protects women's health being attacked successfully by CHRISTIANS.
Admit it or not insecurity drives need to protecting gods. You know this. And Instilling this gear onto ones children is wrong.
Never back away so I don't hurt feelings. Fk the bible and all the gods and holy books. All bullshit.
Derailing? Not really, its the self righteous Christians that are causing increased teen pregnancy, STD's and birth defects. But woo rah go zombie Jesus.