GOP Probe Into Planned Parenthood Funding Comes Up Empty

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    Pretty sure even if there was no religion we'd still find a way to shame women & their bodies.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Some certainly would, Ident. People like to shame others over a lot of things.
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    Yup.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

    And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.

    As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.

    I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.

    My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    hedonist said:

    Some certainly would, Ident. People like to shame others over a lot of things.

    The truth is not shaming and it will set you free.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    ldent42 said:

    Pretty sure even if there was no religion we'd still find a way to shame women & their bodies.

    The church and bible are the main offenders. BY A LONG SHOT.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    I love the mystery of the universe. Mystery is my god.

    I also love it when people support PP and get mighty pissed off when idiots try to block PP. Mighty pissed!
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    brianlux said:

    I love the mystery of the universe. Mystery is my god.

    I also love it when people support PP and get mighty pissed off when idiots try to block PP. Mighty pissed!

    Hey get tip toeing on the subject and happy to say what needs to be said.

    And yes this PP pisses me off.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

    And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.

    As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.

    I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.

    My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.

    How would you know what she feels? She does not have guilt, at least overwhelmingly. She has a myriad of feelings, still. Thirty-something years later. They are not borne of religion, and that's my point - there's an assumption that it's inherently connected.

    It is not.

    And I'm not sure what you mean by "what happened to you".

    If you're calling my parents child abusers, fuck that. I know what a child abuser is.

    Rarely do I take offense to the opinions of people I don't really know, but that, callen, is utter bullshit. Keep your views on this tight or expand them a bit, it's up to you.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

    And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.

    As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.

    I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.

    My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.

    How would you know what she feels? She does not have guilt, at least overwhelmingly. She has a myriad of feelings, still. Thirty-something years later. They are not borne of religion, and that's my point - there's an assumption that it's inherently connected.

    It is not.

    And I'm not sure what you mean by "what happened to you".

    If you're calling my parents child abusers, fuck that. I know what a child abuser is.

    Rarely do I take offense to the opinions of people I don't really know, but that, callen, is utter bullshit. Keep your views on this tight or expand them a bit, it's up to you.
    Of course it's tied to religion. It's the Christians shutting PP down.

    And Again with the irony. My opinions are bull shit?? Really?? For saying this magical zombie god belief is horse poop?

    I have siblings that are currently fucking up their children's lives by feeding this bullshit and have told them as well. So yes anyone that Instills their fears and insecurities to their children are child abusers. Period. It's not fair for the kids. "Mommy cant handle the Truth so gonna make sure my little Timmy has same shit to deal with for the rest of his life". Weak sauce.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Right-o.
  • callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

    And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.

    As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.

    I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.

    My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.

    How would you know what she feels? She does not have guilt, at least overwhelmingly. She has a myriad of feelings, still. Thirty-something years later. They are not borne of religion, and that's my point - there's an assumption that it's inherently connected.

    It is not.

    And I'm not sure what you mean by "what happened to you".

    If you're calling my parents child abusers, fuck that. I know what a child abuser is.

    Rarely do I take offense to the opinions of people I don't really know, but that, callen, is utter bullshit. Keep your views on this tight or expand them a bit, it's up to you.
    Of course it's tied to religion. It's the Christians shutting PP down.

    And Again with the irony. My opinions are bull shit?? Really?? For saying this magical zombie god belief is horse poop?

    I have siblings that are currently fucking up their children's lives by feeding this bullshit and have told them as well. So yes anyone that Instills their fears and insecurities to their children are child abusers. Period. It's not fair for the kids. "Mommy cant handle the Truth so gonna make sure my little Timmy has same shit to deal with for the rest of his life". Weak sauce.
    jesus fucking christ. your experiences are not everyone's. my brother, his wife, and their son, now 18, are very steadfast in their religion. believe gay is a choice and all that hullaballoo. he knows my thoughts on it, respectfully. he, his wife, and his son are some of the happiest people I know, AND do a lot of good for this world. child abuse? i can't even call that a stretch. that is just utter bullshit, dude.

    do I think god exists? nope. but your general condemnation of all christians/religion is no different than Donald Drumpf and his idiots being fearful of all muslims.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited April 2016
    Instilling belied in fairy tales in children to make them be good or suffer damnation in hell for eternity. Yeah child abuse. Realize we all have loved ones that are doing this and it's hard to wrap ones mind around.

    As to your other assertions as to what I think of Christians reread my post.

    And my experiences? Well my views weren't drawn from my parents or being forced to participate just FYI.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • Callen

    You're fighting a losing battle.
    You will never get the believers to see, let alone accept your side.
    I agree with all you say.
    'What a child should be taught is that religion exists; that some people believe this and some people believe that,
    What a child should never be taught is that you are a Catholic or Muslim (insert religion here) child, therefore that is what you believe. That's child abuse.
    Teaching children religion would help them understand literature

    Smile, nod and back away from the religious zombie talk that others have believed from their parents teachings.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Not backing away and wish more would stand up and say the unpleasantness that needs to be said. Religion and holy books are shit.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited April 2016

    Callen

    You're fighting a losing battle.
    You will never get the believers to see, let alone accept your side.
    I agree with all you say.
    'What a child should be taught is that religion exists; that some people believe this and some people believe that,
    What a child should never be taught is that you are a Catholic or Muslim (insert religion here) child, therefore that is what you believe. That's child abuse.
    Teaching children religion would help them understand literature

    Smile, nod and back away from the religious zombie talk that others have believed from their parents teachings.

    There's no battle here except for some ridiculous assumptions being made by those who think anyone coming from a different view is a maroon, to put it lightly.

    Religious zombie talk? Who's been spouting off here? Jesus, I've seen more from those who are against any and all religions do that.

    This agnostic was raised a Jew - no fears or insecurities on that front - with encouragement to seek my own way as I got older. So, I'm not a "believer" but would never be so fucking rude to anyone who lives their lives peacefully, with or without religion.

    Please, do back away or come back to discuss with some semblance of courtesy.

    I'll be lighting a Passover candle tonight in honor of my dad.

    :worried:
  • I still can't figure out if Trump supports PP or not.
    I mean you are either for it or not.
    You can't be on the fence.
    Just using this as an example to go with the thread topic since it is in the news as well.
    Not endorsing trump on this thread just trying to bring up a point.
  • hedonist said:

    Callen

    You're fighting a losing battle.
    You will never get the believers to see, let alone accept your side.
    I agree with all you say.
    'What a child should be taught is that religion exists; that some people believe this and some people believe that,
    What a child should never be taught is that you are a Catholic or Muslim (insert religion here) child, therefore that is what you believe. That's child abuse.
    Teaching children religion would help them understand literature

    Smile, nod and back away from the religious zombie talk that others have believed from their parents teachings.

    There's no battle here except for some ridiculous assumptions being made by those who think anyone coming from a different view is a maroon, to put it lightly.

    Religious zombie talk? Who's been spouting off here? Jesus, I've seen more from those who are against any and all religions do that.

    This agnostic was raised a Jew - no fears or insecurities on that front - with encouragement to seek my own way as I got older. So, I'm not a "believer" but would never be so fucking rude to anyone who lives their lives peacefully, with or without religion.

    Please, do back away or come back to discuss with some semblance of courtesy.

    I'll be lighting a Passover candle tonight in honor of my dad.

    :worried:
    No one.
    But you have to imply that a Christian believes that Jesus resurrected whether they spout it off or not otherwise they are hypocrites no?
    So not to derail the thread it is important the PP has no room for religious beliefs that some parts are wrong - Democrat, GOP, whatever. PP is to look after the woman not for religious/political posturing.
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    Why are you guys even fighting about religion in a thread about planned parenthood
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    ldent42 said:

    Why are you guys even fighting about religion in a thread about planned parenthood

    I was just asking myself that very question!
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    See last post on the first page, it's right there. Sorry I responded to it.

    (actually, I'm not)

    So, yeah.
  • ldent42 said:

    Why are you guys even fighting about religion in a thread about planned parenthood

    It's not fighting.
    PP is very divisive on the political/religious spectrum.
    Some only allow certain aspects of it because of religious beliefs.
    Others are 100% all for it.
    It's bound to come up and should be brought up - What do you think should/shouldn't be part of PP?
  • ldent42 said:

    Why are you guys even fighting about religion in a thread about planned parenthood

    because some people bring it up in every single thread, relevance or no.
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  • callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

    And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.

    As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.

    I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.

    My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.

    How would you know what she feels? She does not have guilt, at least overwhelmingly. She has a myriad of feelings, still. Thirty-something years later. They are not borne of religion, and that's my point - there's an assumption that it's inherently connected.

    It is not.

    And I'm not sure what you mean by "what happened to you".

    If you're calling my parents child abusers, fuck that. I know what a child abuser is.

    Rarely do I take offense to the opinions of people I don't really know, but that, callen, is utter bullshit. Keep your views on this tight or expand them a bit, it's up to you.
    Of course it's tied to religion. It's the Christians shutting PP down.

    And Again with the irony. My opinions are bull shit?? Really?? For saying this magical zombie god belief is horse poop?

    I have siblings that are currently fucking up their children's lives by feeding this bullshit and have told them as well. So yes anyone that Instills their fears and insecurities to their children are child abusers. Period. It's not fair for the kids. "Mommy cant handle the Truth so gonna make sure my little Timmy has same shit to deal with for the rest of his life". Weak sauce.
    the opinion of "all people who teach their children about god are child abusers" is the bullshit part. because, essentially, you are calling my wife and my parents child abusers. that's fucking laughable. making blanket statements like that is idiotic at best.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2016

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

    And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.

    As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.

    I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.

    My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.

    How would you know what she feels? She does not have guilt, at least overwhelmingly. She has a myriad of feelings, still. Thirty-something years later. They are not borne of religion, and that's my point - there's an assumption that it's inherently connected.

    It is not.

    And I'm not sure what you mean by "what happened to you".

    If you're calling my parents child abusers, fuck that. I know what a child abuser is.

    Rarely do I take offense to the opinions of people I don't really know, but that, callen, is utter bullshit. Keep your views on this tight or expand them a bit, it's up to you.
    Of course it's tied to religion. It's the Christians shutting PP down.

    And Again with the irony. My opinions are bull shit?? Really?? For saying this magical zombie god belief is horse poop?

    I have siblings that are currently fucking up their children's lives by feeding this bullshit and have told them as well. So yes anyone that Instills their fears and insecurities to their children are child abusers. Period. It's not fair for the kids. "Mommy cant handle the Truth so gonna make sure my little Timmy has same shit to deal with for the rest of his life". Weak sauce.
    the opinion of "all people who teach their children about god are child abusers" is the bullshit part. because, essentially, you are calling my wife and my parents child abusers. that's fucking laughable. making blanket statements like that is idiotic at best.
    HFD
    Your opinions are usually always spot on.
    Yet your semantics on some things, are what keeps the muddy waters.
    No one is saying "all people who teach their children about god are child abusers"
    Where do you get that?
  • callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

    And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.

    As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.

    I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.

    My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.

    How would you know what she feels? She does not have guilt, at least overwhelmingly. She has a myriad of feelings, still. Thirty-something years later. They are not borne of religion, and that's my point - there's an assumption that it's inherently connected.

    It is not.

    And I'm not sure what you mean by "what happened to you".

    If you're calling my parents child abusers, fuck that. I know what a child abuser is.

    Rarely do I take offense to the opinions of people I don't really know, but that, callen, is utter bullshit. Keep your views on this tight or expand them a bit, it's up to you.
    Of course it's tied to religion. It's the Christians shutting PP down.

    And Again with the irony. My opinions are bull shit?? Really?? For saying this magical zombie god belief is horse poop?

    I have siblings that are currently fucking up their children's lives by feeding this bullshit and have told them as well. So yes anyone that Instills their fears and insecurities to their children are child abusers. Period. It's not fair for the kids. "Mommy cant handle the Truth so gonna make sure my little Timmy has same shit to deal with for the rest of his life". Weak sauce.
    the opinion of "all people who teach their children about god are child abusers" is the bullshit part. because, essentially, you are calling my wife and my parents child abusers. that's fucking laughable. making blanket statements like that is idiotic at best.
    HFD
    Your opinions are usually always spot on.
    Yet your semantics on some things, are what keeps the muddy waters.
    No one is saying "all people who teach their children about god are child abusers"
    Where do you get that?
    pretty black and white right here:
    Callen said:
    "Instilling belied in fairy tales in children to make them be good or suffer damnation in hell for eternity. Yeah child abuse"
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2016

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    callen said:

    The fundies need an enemy and PP fits the bill.

    Total lunacy but makes sense.

    Wish more would overtly condemn religion.

    I know I know "let them do what they want." "Respect others beliefs".

    Oh wait then we bitch about this PP stuff.

    Fuck all religions and there is no God. :o

    My sister had an abortion through PP and believes in God. In fact, is celebrating Passover tonight.

    Now what? Shame on her?

    I get (over and over and over!) that you think religion and every single person who leans even remotely in that direction are idiots, fools, fanatics.

    Gotta say you're coming off as fanatical yourself in your blind assessments.

    And now your sister has the added guilt instilled by this belief system. If she wasn't indoctrinated she'd had easier time. IRONICALLY I have NO shame on her VERSUS those that she identifies with.

    As to my thoughts on believers, use word "insecurity". That's it. Fools, fanatics and idiots not really. Understand fear that drives these beliefs. Now humans that pass on this fear to their children are child abusers and inflict lifetime of confusion. As what happened to you.

    I'm a realist. Not a fanatical. So few out right call belief in magical gods total horse poop and that's too bad.

    My posts are on topic as we are discussing taking away healthcare for young women by humans that believe in a zombie that is a god. And I'm the fanatical. Ha.

    How would you know what she feels? She does not have guilt, at least overwhelmingly. She has a myriad of feelings, still. Thirty-something years later. They are not borne of religion, and that's my point - there's an assumption that it's inherently connected.

    It is not.

    And I'm not sure what you mean by "what happened to you".

    If you're calling my parents child abusers, fuck that. I know what a child abuser is.

    Rarely do I take offense to the opinions of people I don't really know, but that, callen, is utter bullshit. Keep your views on this tight or expand them a bit, it's up to you.
    Of course it's tied to religion. It's the Christians shutting PP down.

    And Again with the irony. My opinions are bull shit?? Really?? For saying this magical zombie god belief is horse poop?

    I have siblings that are currently fucking up their children's lives by feeding this bullshit and have told them as well. So yes anyone that Instills their fears and insecurities to their children are child abusers. Period. It's not fair for the kids. "Mommy cant handle the Truth so gonna make sure my little Timmy has same shit to deal with for the rest of his life". Weak sauce.
    the opinion of "all people who teach their children about god are child abusers" is the bullshit part. because, essentially, you are calling my wife and my parents child abusers. that's fucking laughable. making blanket statements like that is idiotic at best.
    HFD
    Your opinions are usually always spot on.
    Yet your semantics on some things, are what keeps the muddy waters.
    No one is saying "all people who teach their children about god are child abusers"
    Where do you get that?
    pretty black and white right here:
    Callen said:
    "Instilling belied in fairy tales in children to make them be good or suffer damnation in hell for eternity. Yeah child abuse"
    That doesn't mean he is of the opinion all people who teach their children about god are child abusers
    come on
    edit - why would you disagree with the child abuse part of hell in eternity?
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524



    That doesn't mean he is of the opinion all people who teach their children about god are child abusers
    come on
    edit - why would you disagree with the child abuse part of hell in eternity?

    The hell are you on about? Pretty clear what he said and meant.

    Now back to your hard-on for keeping to topic.
  • hedonist said:



    That doesn't mean he is of the opinion all people who teach their children about god are child abusers
    come on
    edit - why would you disagree with the child abuse part of hell in eternity?

    The hell are you on about? Pretty clear what he said and meant.

    Now back to your hard-on for keeping to topic.
    Hedo,
    I am not doing this again with you.
    Either you post what you think or don't.
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