Really though, the back of the floor is the biggest problem. As someone else said, anywhere in the lower bowl is better than back of floor.
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i think they should just throw all the tix in the lottery, with no choice between GA or RES. Maybe add a preference box somewhere if you definitely need a seat. You only know what you got when you pick the tickets up.
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I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
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So I take it reserved side bowl seats are premium over reserved floor seats behind GA? I lucked out with 2nd row floor seats in Buffalo right on the aisle and thought they were better than middle or last row in the lower side bow.
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
This isnt true though. It isnt equal.
Whoever gets more memberships and buddies up with others with multiple memberships have an exponentially better chance at tickets to many shows than someone who just wants to go to a show.
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
This isnt true though. It isnt equal.
Whoever gets more memberships and buddies up with others with multiple memberships have an exponentially better chance at tickets to many shows than someone who just wants to go to a show.
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
This isnt true though. It isnt equal.
Whoever gets more memberships and buddies up with others with multiple memberships have an exponentially better chance at tickets to many shows than someone who just wants to go to a show.
It's equal in that you get one attempt per membership. And each person is only allowed one membership. I won't fault a couple who pays $20 or $40 each because they are both paying members.
I see no issue buddying up either. I did that in 2013. I ended up with 2 10C tix and I paid for 2 10C tix. Also, I met some awesome people doing this. What's up @Bathgate66 and @ldent42?
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
what do you mean 'never had the chance'? Previously, everybody had an equal chance at winning the lottery for rows 1-2 and 9-10. A ticket buddy of mine told me she had a really high number, so her tickets were probably not going to be great. She won first row for one of the shows.
Right now you're going to have what the band complained about previously...the same faces up front, on the rail. Pretty much it seems everybody has turned into the GA police. During intermission, god forbid if you have to pee...good luck on getting your spot back unless you buddy up with everybody around you.
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I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
This isnt true though. It isnt equal.
Whoever gets more memberships and buddies up with others with multiple memberships have an exponentially better chance at tickets to many shows than someone who just wants to go to a show.
Can't fix everything unfortunately.
What's to fix? These people are all paying for their tickets. They were savvy in increasing their chances to win and/or finding a seller.
Everyone in the same pool of GA/Reserved. Everyone from member 1 to 600xxx has an equal shot at GA. You have the option to opt out of GA when you purchase.
That way anyone shirking the system trying for many GA entries will 'risk' getting 'stuck' with 'extra' 600xxx tickets that they cant easily trade off for others' 'extra' GA pairs.
Everyone has an equal shot at GA or reserved. That would also ensure a somewhat equal distribution of member #s in GA.
If they really want to do away with all the line nonsense and contraversy, dont reveal GA/ticket location until the tickets are picked up. That would also completely quash the 'market' for GA tickets.
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
what do you mean 'never had the chance'? Previously, everybody had an equal chance at winning the lottery for rows 1-2 and 9-10. A ticket buddy of mine told me she had a really high number, so her tickets were probably not going to be great. She won first row for one of the shows.
Right now you're going to have what the band complained about previously...the same faces up front, on the rail. Pretty much it seems everybody has turned into the GA police. During intermission, god forbid if you have to pee...good luck on getting your spot back unless you buddy up with everybody around you.
Nothing will ever please everybody.
Like I said rows 1-2 didn't feel like enough to me. You absolutely will not have the same faces up front every show. Winning GA is hard. Waiting on line all day is hard.
Everyone in the same pool of GA/Reserved. Everyone from member 1 to 600xxx has an equal shot at GA. You have the option to opt out of GA when you purchase.
That way anyone shirking the system trying for many GA entries will 'risk' getting 'stuck' with 'extra' 600xxx tickets that they cant easily trade off for others' 'extra' GA pairs.
Everyone has an equal shot at GA or reserved. That would also ensure a somewhat equal distribution of member #s in GA.
I'd be fine with that but it makes the 10C's job much more difficult so I don't blame them for not doing that.
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
This isnt true though. It isnt equal.
Whoever gets more memberships and buddies up with others with multiple memberships have an exponentially better chance at tickets to many shows than someone who just wants to go to a show.
Can't fix everything unfortunately.
What's to fix? These people are all paying for their tickets. They were savvy in increasing their chances to win and/or finding a seller.
Nothing wrong with it in most cases, but savvy quickly turns to greedy when people sign up their children or spouses who care nothing about Pearl Jam to be able to buy multiple limited items, or get extra tickets to trade for other shows.
Everyone in the same pool of GA/Reserved. Everyone from member 1 to 600xxx has an equal shot at GA. You have the option to opt out of GA when you purchase.
That way anyone shirking the system trying for many GA entries will 'risk' getting 'stuck' with 'extra' 600xxx tickets that they cant easily trade off for others' 'extra' GA pairs.
Everyone has an equal shot at GA or reserved. That would also ensure a somewhat equal distribution of member #s in GA.
If they really want to do away with all the line nonsense and contraversy, dont reveal GA/ticket location until the tickets are picked up. That would also completely quash the 'market' for GA tickets.
This is what I meant to say! I really like this approach. It would bring back a bit ofthe "I just want to be in the building" feeling. Whoever still wants to trade their tickets, can do so at the ticket office with fellow members.
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
This isnt true though. It isnt equal.
Whoever gets more memberships and buddies up with others with multiple memberships have an exponentially better chance at tickets to many shows than someone who just wants to go to a show.
Can't fix everything unfortunately.
What's to fix? These people are all paying for their tickets. They were savvy in increasing their chances to win and/or finding a seller.
Nothing wrong with it in most cases, but savvy quickly turns to greedy when people sign up their children or spouses who care nothing about Pearl Jam to be able to buy multiple limited items, or get extra tickets to trade for other shows.
I agree with this. I'm talking about people who are actually fans becoming members.
As much as I liked having 15-20th row for every show outside of the Northeast, I do like the GA sections. It takes a lot of fun out of the anticipation where your 10C seats would be as the best case is side stage.
I suspect yet again northeast ten club tix will be hard to come by but probably alot easier for the south's run. I only won 1 out of 16 entries on the last north east coast go round under the new system but for the west coast run I won 4 out of 4 (Spokane,BC, Seattle and Portland). Perhaps ticketmasters tentacles arnt as long out west and down south as they are here in these parts and the band can get more fan club seats per venue.
Love you all but can we stay on topic. I saw 26 new messages and I thought something happened regarding the tour.
agreed. lets keep this for rumors instead of rehashing the same old topics. everytime i click and see new posts i get excited but then sort through a bunch of nonsense. someone here has to have a live nation hookup right? anybody able to do a little digging?
I think the GA system is perfect. Old members, new members and everyone in between have an equal shot ate winning the GA lotto. Then if you actually win and want to be up close, you show up early. If you're cool hanging in the back of GA, you show up later. Reserved seats are then given out based on seniority so you are rewarded for being a fan for a long time but it no longer guarantees you a spot up front, thus preventing many others who never had the chance to be close to the stage.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
Exactly! I would have never had the chance to get close but me and my girlfriend who are both die hard fans won GA for the midwest tour and we got to see the band from the 1st, 2nd and 3rd row that would have probably never happened under the old way.
gotta say, the longer this goes on with no info seems liek that list may be really bogus. i didnt think it was gospel but could just be someone bored piecing it around 2 previously rumored dates.
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2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
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Course my preference would be to get rid of GA and do seating with first rows lottery. But doubt that will ever again happen.
I think the 10C got it right and I hope it doesn't change. A lotto for rows 1-2 and 9-10 didn't feel like enough to me.
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2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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2014 - 6/28, 6/29
2013 - 10/12, 11/24
2011 - 9/14
2005 - 9/16
Whoever gets more memberships and buddies up with others with multiple memberships have an exponentially better chance at tickets to many shows than someone who just wants to go to a show.
I see no issue buddying up either. I did that in 2013. I ended up with 2 10C tix and I paid for 2 10C tix. Also, I met some awesome people doing this. What's up @Bathgate66 and @ldent42?
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
Right now you're going to have what the band complained about previously...the same faces up front, on the rail. Pretty much it seems everybody has turned into the GA police. During intermission, god forbid if you have to pee...good luck on getting your spot back unless you buddy up with everybody around you.
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2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
Everyone in the same pool of GA/Reserved. Everyone from member 1 to 600xxx has an equal shot at GA. You have the option to opt out of GA when you purchase.
That way anyone shirking the system trying for many GA entries will 'risk' getting 'stuck' with 'extra' 600xxx tickets that they cant easily trade off for others' 'extra' GA pairs.
Everyone has an equal shot at GA or reserved. That would also ensure a somewhat equal distribution of member #s in GA.
If they really want to do away with all the line nonsense and contraversy, dont reveal GA/ticket location until the tickets are picked up. That would also completely quash the 'market' for GA tickets.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
All reserved seating and make the first 20 rows random instead of rows 1 and 2 and 9 and 10.
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2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
I only won 1 out of 16 entries on the last north east coast go round under the new system but for the west coast run I won 4 out of 4 (Spokane,BC, Seattle and Portland).
Perhaps ticketmasters tentacles arnt as long out west and down south as they are here in these parts and the band can get more fan club seats per venue.
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'09 :Philly 1 & 2 '10: Buffalo, Newark, MSG1, MSG2
'11: PJ20 1 & 2 '12: Missoula '13: Wrigley, BK2, Philly 1 & 2, Hartford
'14: Ams 1 & 2, Cincy, St Louis, Detroit, Moline '15: Central Park
'16 Philly 1 & 2, MSG 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1, Wrigley 1
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'06: Irving Plaza, East Rutherford 1 & 2 '07: Lolla '08: Camden 2, MSG2, Beacon
'09 :Philly 1 & 2 '10: Buffalo, Newark, MSG1, MSG2
'11: PJ20 1 & 2 '12: Missoula '13: Wrigley, BK2, Philly 1 & 2, Hartford
'14: Ams 1 & 2, Cincy, St Louis, Detroit, Moline '15: Central Park
'16 Philly 1 & 2, MSG 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1, Wrigley 1
'17 Brooklyn hall of fame ‘18 Fenway 1
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