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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,544
    Only New Yorkers can complain about what venue the show is at. Houston would take a show at a Wal-Mart parking lot at this point and New Yorkers don't want to take the extra 30 minutes to get to a different venue.
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    RedMosquito02RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    Blood Red Mosquito said:

    I would fly out for MSG in a second. Really hope its not Barclays. May still make the trip if it is though

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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    SVRDhand13 said:

    Keep in mind bands keep a larger portion of the revenue at Barclays compared to msg. The garden takes a large cut if money.

    bingo
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    MagnumPJ said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    MagnumPJ said:

    Barclays is brutal. Went to both PJ shows, saw the Stones show as well. It is just not a very warm arena.

    Also, as an Islanders fan I really despise this place.

    As an Isles fan too, I think it will get better over time. But I'm also a Nets fan so I kind of have to feel that way.
    I wish, but I was at the home-opener (and a few preseason games there) and even though it was sold out on paper it was only 70% full at best. And only 11K in attendance on a holiday game monday. This is place is bad news. Love the Coliseum.

    THUS, hoping plays PJ is back at the Garden. They did such a great job renovating MSG.
    I was at opening day too!

    I had fun at PJ in the Barclays but the crowd was not as rowdy as MSG to be honest. I'm fine with either though.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    my2hands said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    Keep in mind bands keep a larger portion of the revenue at Barclays compared to msg. The garden takes a large cut if money.

    bingo
    @PThomas are you sure what you heard was MSG....
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,903
    SVRDhand13 said:

    MagnumPJ said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    MagnumPJ said:

    Barclays is brutal. Went to both PJ shows, saw the Stones show as well. It is just not a very warm arena.

    Also, as an Islanders fan I really despise this place.

    As an Isles fan too, I think it will get better over time. But I'm also a Nets fan so I kind of have to feel that way.
    I wish, but I was at the home-opener (and a few preseason games there) and even though it was sold out on paper it was only 70% full at best. And only 11K in attendance on a holiday game monday. This is place is bad news. Love the Coliseum.

    THUS, hoping plays PJ is back at the Garden. They did such a great job renovating MSG.
    I was at opening day too!

    I had fun at PJ in the Barclays but the crowd was not as rowdy as MSG to be honest. I'm fine with either though.
    agree with you on the crowd at barclays, it doesn't even come close to msg.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    mcgruff10 said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    MagnumPJ said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    MagnumPJ said:

    Barclays is brutal. Went to both PJ shows, saw the Stones show as well. It is just not a very warm arena.

    Also, as an Islanders fan I really despise this place.

    As an Isles fan too, I think it will get better over time. But I'm also a Nets fan so I kind of have to feel that way.
    I wish, but I was at the home-opener (and a few preseason games there) and even though it was sold out on paper it was only 70% full at best. And only 11K in attendance on a holiday game monday. This is place is bad news. Love the Coliseum.

    THUS, hoping plays PJ is back at the Garden. They did such a great job renovating MSG.
    I was at opening day too!

    I had fun at PJ in the Barclays but the crowd was not as rowdy as MSG to be honest. I'm fine with either though.
    agree with you on the crowd at barclays, it doesn't even come close to msg.
    I didnt notice night 1 because I was in GA and everyone was partying, but I noticed from the rafters night 2
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,903
    SVRDhand13 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    MagnumPJ said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    MagnumPJ said:

    Barclays is brutal. Went to both PJ shows, saw the Stones show as well. It is just not a very warm arena.

    Also, as an Islanders fan I really despise this place.

    As an Isles fan too, I think it will get better over time. But I'm also a Nets fan so I kind of have to feel that way.
    I wish, but I was at the home-opener (and a few preseason games there) and even though it was sold out on paper it was only 70% full at best. And only 11K in attendance on a holiday game monday. This is place is bad news. Love the Coliseum.

    THUS, hoping plays PJ is back at the Garden. They did such a great job renovating MSG.
    I was at opening day too!

    I had fun at PJ in the Barclays but the crowd was not as rowdy as MSG to be honest. I'm fine with either though.
    agree with you on the crowd at barclays, it doesn't even come close to msg.
    I didnt notice night 1 because I was in GA and everyone was partying, but I noticed from the rafters night 2
    I was in ga night 1 also and it was hard to notice; but it was very evident to me during night 2. still a great crowd but not a msg crowd.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    AggAgg Posts: 462
    I would gladly go to another Barclay's show, but I'm really opening for MSG this time. Never been to a show there and I can't think of a better band to see there than PJ.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    PThomas said:

    I will walk...with my hands bound
    I will walk...with my face blood
    I will walk...with my shadow flag
    into your barclays
    Barclays of stone

    fixed
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    ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    bootlegger10 said:

    Only New Yorkers can complain about what venue the show is at. Houston would take a show at a Wal-Mart parking lot at this point and New Yorkers don't want to take the extra 30 minutes to get to a different venue.

    30 minutes my ass. It took me two hours to get home from the Barclays Center after night 1. I could've WALKED home from Brooklyn by that time.

    I don't have a preference either way as far as venue goes, but MSG is technically closer and easier to get to. Since the reno I've only been in the cheap seats at msg. They both have pros and cons. Barclays is steeper but MSG is less comfortable.
    Tbh I don't give a shit what venue they play at as long as it's accessible and I get tickets :-D
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    Gary CarterGary Carter Shea Stadium Posts: 13,940
    bootlegger10 said:

    Only New Yorkers can complain about what venue the show is at. Houston would take a show at a Wal-Mart parking lot at this point and New Yorkers don't want to take the extra 30 minutes to get to a different venue.

    When you live out east on long island yeah it makes a huge difference. MSG show I'm home in a hour if i don't get the local train> Barclays, I have to take a 15 minute train ride to jamica then wait 15 minutes at jamica for the train back to my train station and hope it's not the local train. So yea it does make a huge difference what venue they play. Oh and if the OP is who I think this is, then the MSG is a lock

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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,053
    Barclays is an Easy train ride on the LIRR. Not sure why everyone doesn't see this unless you're north shore?

    Barclays N1 was stale because of the setlist. N2 I was up high and the crowd up top was friggin nuts!!!

    Never been to a PJ msg show so I'd be down for that.
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,446
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Barclays is an Easy train ride on the LIRR. Not sure why everyone doesn't see this unless you're north shore?

    Barclays N1 was stale because of the setlist. N2 I was up high and the crowd up top was friggin nuts!!!

    Never been to a PJ msg show so I'd be down for that.

    Agreed about night two. I think if that show was at MSG people would have been raving about it. Great set list. :smiley:
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    eddieceddiec Posts: 3,837
    Why are we even comparing MSG to Barclay's? No indoor arenas left in the US can beat MSG in terms of atmosphere.
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    eddiec said:

    Why are we even comparing MSG to Barclay's? No indoor arenas left in the US can beat MSG in terms of atmosphere.

    The renovations actually made it just like every other arena in the US.
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    eddieceddiec Posts: 3,837
    dankind said:

    eddiec said:

    Why are we even comparing MSG to Barclay's? No indoor arenas left in the US can beat MSG in terms of atmosphere.

    The renovations actually made it just like every other arena in the US.
    It's still MSG. I was inside in 1980 for the first time and was there last year. The energy walking off the street into the arena is still the same.

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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    eddiec said:

    dankind said:

    eddiec said:

    Why are we even comparing MSG to Barclay's? No indoor arenas left in the US can beat MSG in terms of atmosphere.

    The renovations actually made it just like every other arena in the US.
    It's still MSG. I was inside in 1980 for the first time and was there last year. The energy walking off the street into the arena is still the same.

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    nycratsnycrats Posts: 1,348
    my2hands said:

    eddiec said:

    dankind said:

    eddiec said:

    Why are we even comparing MSG to Barclay's? No indoor arenas left in the US can beat MSG in terms of atmosphere.

    The renovations actually made it just like every other arena in the US.
    It's still MSG. I was inside in 1980 for the first time and was there last year. The energy walking off the street into the arena is still the same.

    and it still has a round roof
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    MagnumPJMagnumPJ Posts: 75
    I wouldn't classify this as New Yorkers complaining by any means. It's more than okay to have a preference between two "local" venues. Most of us have been to PJ shows at both at this point and MSG simply raises the bar and creates an atmosphere that can't be replicated in the sterile environment of the Barclays (or in many arenas I've seen the band). It probably sounds silly to those who haven't been at both, and that's fine.

    Fingers crossed for MSG, but I'll take any venue around here, or if no NY shows hopefully figure something out like I did with St Paul and Milwaukee last year.
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    PThomasPThomas Posts: 17
    Just checking back in. Wondering where all the Barclays chatter has come from ? Would be great having that many shows in the NYC area
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    PThomas said:

    Just checking back in. Wondering where all the Barclays chatter has come from ? Would be great having that many shows in the NYC area

    I have a source. Heard it myself first hand that dates are "on hold". I'm thinking both MSG and Barclays are on hold and they will choose one?
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    cutzcutz Posts: 11,448
    SVRDhand13 said:

    PThomas said:

    Just checking back in. Wondering where all the Barclays chatter has come from ? Would be great having that many shows in the NYC area

    I have a source. Heard it myself first hand that dates are "on hold". I'm thinking both MSG and Barclays are on hold and they will choose one?
    And i HOPE that choice is MSG.

    Only because it's easier for this suburban dude from South Jersey to get to MSG>LOL!

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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    a month later, still waiting....
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    I think the waiting will be over shortly. MSG or Barclays?
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    YLed2YLed2 Des Moines, IA Posts: 5,534
    SVRDhand13 said:

    I think the waiting will be over shortly. MSG or Barclays?

    Want and need MSG. Hopefully less than 24 hours we find out.

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    BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,344
    The only people who consider MSG the most 'famous arena in the world' are egotistical NY sports fans..... There's nothing special about the place...... Plus the Knicks are atrocious:)
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    BF89905 said:

    The only people who consider MSG the most 'famous arena in the world' are egotistical NY sports fans..... There's nothing special about the place...... Plus the Knicks are atrocious:)

    I'm a New Yorker who hates both teams that play at MSG but I cant think of an arena as historical as MSG.
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    ckravitzckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    BF89905 said:

    The only people who consider MSG the most 'famous arena in the world' are egotistical NY sports fans..... There's nothing special about the place...... Plus the Knicks are atrocious:)

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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,903
    BF89905 said:

    The only people who consider MSG the most 'famous arena in the world' are egotistical NY sports fans..... There's nothing special about the place...... Plus the Knicks are atrocious:)

    Please don t try for tickets then.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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