Hillary won more votes for President

ledvedderman

Cliffy6745 said:

If Georgia is close though...

That would be unreal and we could all go to bed early.

PJ_Soul

JC29856 said:

PJ_Soul said:

JC29856 said:

Wow. Georgia going to Hilliary.
Game over!

Shit, I better get off line now! We haven't even left work on the west coast, and you're ruining all the surprises!

My bad, I'll go in timeout.

Lol, my fault!

PJ_Soul

(Btw, it is total madness that things are already being called and results being released before all polls are closed. Shouldn't be legal IMO )

mrussel1

PJ_Soul said:

(Btw, it is total madness that things are already being called and results being released before all polls are closed. Shouldn't be legal IMO )

Are you seeing a state bring called before their polls close? The media self imposed a moratorium on that several years ago.

what dreams

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

JC29856 said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

rgambs said:

Cliffy6745 said:

My polling place had a line a block and a half long at 8 am. Have voted there for 8 years and have never seen it like that. My sister in a nearby neighborhood waited a half hour. Saw numerous long lines throughout the city on my bike on the way into work. I will be leaving work early to vote, wasn't waiting in that line.

If Trump was banking on low turnout or enthusiasm in Philly, it would seem he was sadly mistaken.

There should never be lines like that to vote, it's a fucking shame.
If you think long lines in inner cities has nothing to do with voter suppression of democrats you are a damn fool.

People wait in longer lines to get on rides in Disney World. I LOVE IT that lines are long for voting. Yay for democracy!

I volunteered at my precinct for the 5-7 AM shift. It was 33 degrees out, and not a single person left because of a 25-minute wait in line or the cold.

Voting is EASY.

Disney World isn't a right, it's a privilege!
Voting should be easy and shouldn't require standing in the cold at all. If the parties want to spend billions on tv ads, they should be required to contribute a percentage to an election board that facilitates voting access.

Boom goes the dynamite.

I don't think anyone should have to wait more than 20 minutes to vote. $1billion election

$7 billion Halloween. Americans spent more on Halloween candy than they have on our election.

The billion election dollars don't go to state and local election commissions, and God forbid we raise any taxes to upgrade our systems.

In my locality, they couldn't get enough poll workers to check people in. VOLUNTEERS are spread thin, some working 5 AM TO 7 PM -- 14 hour plus shifts -- to process people. Give them a fucking break. Shut up and vote, you entitled whiners.

Come down off your high horse and stop being defensive. So you volunteer. Cool. That doesn't mean you have to defend the indefensible.
Get on board with making voting easier and getting some of the money to people like yourself, don't insult people arrogantly.

I voted, I don't live in an anthill (remember, a trailer in Amish country lol) so there was no wait.

Here's a suggestion. Get involved in your community. Call your locally elected officials after the election and find out the average wait time at all precincts instead of relying on generalized news media reports of "lines" "somewhere," probably nowhere near where you live. Then, if it was a problem, get together with some like-minded individuals and do something about it. After the last election in my locality, this happened: fairfaxcounty.gov/electioncommission/election-commission-report.htm And guess what? As recommended by this commission, every precinct this election had electronic check-in stations with drivers licence scanners so people could get in and out in 25 minutes. We even had "curbside voting" at every single polling place for people with physical disabilities. Teachers were told to "work at home" on our workday to free up parking spaces for voters at school polling locations. Only one polling place was a two-precinct polling place. Pretty much every recommendation in the commission report was implemented. Ironically, the people who slowed down the lines were the ones (the few) who didn't bring a drivers license and used some other photo ID instead that couldn't be scanned. Uh-oh. You know what that means. It must be Democratic Voter Suppression!!!!! We've got to allow the poor black voters to slow down the line or it just won't be fair!!!!! (Do you hear how ridiculous that sounds? It is ridiculous when you realize that A UNIFORM VOTER ID SPEEDS UP THE LINES.)

I have no problem at all with making voter easier. I never said don't make it easier. I said quit whining about waiting in a line as though your rights are being trampled on when localities are working with what they have to make the election happen. Celebrate democracy. Get out of your damned trailer, spend time with your neighbors, and join together in this wonderful communal event. The only thing you hear in my voice is my being sick of all the people in this country who do nothing but bitch, bitch, bitch about everything that's wrong and then when I attend a government meeting, CRICKETS. The room is practically empty. The same people always show up, and then everybody else gets mad at the decisions that the people who show up recommend. You want things to move and shake in your favor? Public meetings are OPEN to all members of the public. Find your seat at the table.

rgambs

what dreams said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

JC29856 said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

rgambs said:

Cliffy6745 said:

My polling place had a line a block and a half long at 8 am. Have voted there for 8 years and have never seen it like that. My sister in a nearby neighborhood waited a half hour. Saw numerous long lines throughout the city on my bike on the way into work. I will be leaving work early to vote, wasn't waiting in that line.

If Trump was banking on low turnout or enthusiasm in Philly, it would seem he was sadly mistaken.

There should never be lines like that to vote, it's a fucking shame.
If you think long lines in inner cities has nothing to do with voter suppression of democrats you are a damn fool.

People wait in longer lines to get on rides in Disney World. I LOVE IT that lines are long for voting. Yay for democracy!

I volunteered at my precinct for the 5-7 AM shift. It was 33 degrees out, and not a single person left because of a 25-minute wait in line or the cold.

Voting is EASY.

Disney World isn't a right, it's a privilege!
Voting should be easy and shouldn't require standing in the cold at all. If the parties want to spend billions on tv ads, they should be required to contribute a percentage to an election board that facilitates voting access.

Boom goes the dynamite.

I don't think anyone should have to wait more than 20 minutes to vote. $1billion election

$7 billion Halloween. Americans spent more on Halloween candy than they have on our election.

The billion election dollars don't go to state and local election commissions, and God forbid we raise any taxes to upgrade our systems.

In my locality, they couldn't get enough poll workers to check people in. VOLUNTEERS are spread thin, some working 5 AM TO 7 PM -- 14 hour plus shifts -- to process people. Give them a fucking break. Shut up and vote, you entitled whiners.

Come down off your high horse and stop being defensive. So you volunteer. Cool. That doesn't mean you have to defend the indefensible.
Get on board with making voting easier and getting some of the money to people like yourself, don't insult people arrogantly.

I voted, I don't live in an anthill (remember, a trailer in Amish country lol) so there was no wait.

Here's a suggestion. Get involved in your community. Call your locally elected officials after the election and find out the average wait time at all precincts instead of relying on generalized news media reports of "lines" "somewhere," probably nowhere near where you live. Then, if it was a problem, get together with some like-minded individuals and do something about it. After the last election in my locality, this happened: fairfaxcounty.gov/electioncommission/election-commission-report.htm And guess what? As recommended by this commission, every precinct this election had electronic check-in stations with drivers licence scanners so people could get in and out in 25 minutes. We even had "curbside voting" at every single polling place for people with physical disabilities. Teachers were told to "work at home" on our workday to free up parking spaces for voters at school polling locations. Only one polling place was a two-precinct polling place. Pretty much every recommendation in the commission report was implemented. Ironically, the people who slowed down the lines were the ones (the few) who didn't bring a drivers license and used some other photo ID instead that couldn't be scanned. Uh-oh. You know what that means. It must be Democratic Voter Suppression!!!!! We've got to allow the poor black voters to slow down the line or it just won't be fair!!!!! (Do you hear how ridiculous that sounds? It is ridiculous when you realize that A UNIFORM VOTER ID SPEEDS UP THE LINES.)

I have no problem at all with making voter easier. I never said don't make it easier. I said quit whining about waiting in a line as though your rights are being trampled on when localities are working with what they have to make the election happen. Celebrate democracy. Get out of your damned trailer, spend time with your neighbors, and join together in this wonderful communal event. The only thing you hear in my voice is my being sick of all the people in this country who do nothing but bitch, bitch, bitch about everything that's wrong and then when I attend a government meeting, CRICKETS. The room is practically empty. The same people always show up, and then everybody else gets mad at the decisions that the people who show up recommend. You want things to move and shake in your favor? Public meetings are OPEN to all members of the public. Find your seat at the table.

If you read my posts, I haven't waited in line to vote, (ever, actually) my concern is for democracy at large.

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Former Assistant Director at the FBI Tom Fuentes



Probably not Gern approved

He doesn't work for the FBI or Justice. That's the meaning of 'official'. The people telling Fuentes may very well be the same sources that were leaking to Rudy which forced Comey's hand on the letter (if he had to be forced). I'm not saying there isn't an investigation, but the leaks could be just intended to sway the voters without having any merit.

I understand but you see how "official" is an impossibility at this stage. By your standards all reporting should be ignored on any topic regardless of how many corroborating sources there are. With respect to the foundation there are many sources and multiple news agencies reporting that the foundation is being investigated. Nobody knows what the result will be but the investigation is happening. Also I believe Comey forced his own hand when he told congress under oth that he would update them if new evidence became available. That one statement required him to send that letter and the letter was sent before Rudy got involved.

You mean like "yellow cake" and "aluminum tubes?" Or VP Cheney on the Sunday morning circuit?

BS44325

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Former Assistant Director at the FBI Tom Fuentes



Probably not Gern approved

He doesn't work for the FBI or Justice. That's the meaning of 'official'. The people telling Fuentes may very well be the same sources that were leaking to Rudy which forced Comey's hand on the letter (if he had to be forced). I'm not saying there isn't an investigation, but the leaks could be just intended to sway the voters without having any merit.

I understand but you see how "official" is an impossibility at this stage. By your standards all reporting should be ignored on any topic regardless of how many corroborating sources there are. With respect to the foundation there are many sources and multiple news agencies reporting that the foundation is being investigated. Nobody knows what the result will be but the investigation is happening. Also I believe Comey forced his own hand when he told congress under oth that he would update them if new evidence became available. That one statement required him to send that letter and the letter was sent before Rudy got involved.

You mean like "yellow cake" and "aluminum tubes?" Or VP Cheney on the Sunday morning circuit?

You're back!

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Former Assistant Director at the FBI Tom Fuentes



Probably not Gern approved

He doesn't work for the FBI or Justice. That's the meaning of 'official'. The people telling Fuentes may very well be the same sources that were leaking to Rudy which forced Comey's hand on the letter (if he had to be forced). I'm not saying there isn't an investigation, but the leaks could be just intended to sway the voters without having any merit.

I understand but you see how "official" is an impossibility at this stage. By your standards all reporting should be ignored on any topic regardless of how many corroborating sources there are. With respect to the foundation there are many sources and multiple news agencies reporting that the foundation is being investigated. Nobody knows what the result will be but the investigation is happening. Also I believe Comey forced his own hand when he told congress under oth that he would update them if new evidence became available. That one statement required him to send that letter and the letter was sent before Rudy got involved.

You mean like "yellow cake" and "aluminum tubes?" Or VP Cheney on the Sunday morning circuit?

H2M! H2M! H2M!

what dreams

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

JC29856 said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

rgambs said:

Cliffy6745 said:

My polling place had a line a block and a half long at 8 am. Have voted there for 8 years and have never seen it like that. My sister in a nearby neighborhood waited a half hour. Saw numerous long lines throughout the city on my bike on the way into work. I will be leaving work early to vote, wasn't waiting in that line.

If Trump was banking on low turnout or enthusiasm in Philly, it would seem he was sadly mistaken.

There should never be lines like that to vote, it's a fucking shame.
If you think long lines in inner cities has nothing to do with voter suppression of democrats you are a damn fool.

People wait in longer lines to get on rides in Disney World. I LOVE IT that lines are long for voting. Yay for democracy!

I volunteered at my precinct for the 5-7 AM shift. It was 33 degrees out, and not a single person left because of a 25-minute wait in line or the cold.

Voting is EASY.

Disney World isn't a right, it's a privilege!
Voting should be easy and shouldn't require standing in the cold at all. If the parties want to spend billions on tv ads, they should be required to contribute a percentage to an election board that facilitates voting access.

Boom goes the dynamite.

I don't think anyone should have to wait more than 20 minutes to vote. $1billion election

$7 billion Halloween. Americans spent more on Halloween candy than they have on our election.

The billion election dollars don't go to state and local election commissions, and God forbid we raise any taxes to upgrade our systems.

In my locality, they couldn't get enough poll workers to check people in. VOLUNTEERS are spread thin, some working 5 AM TO 7 PM -- 14 hour plus shifts -- to process people. Give them a fucking break. Shut up and vote, you entitled whiners.

Come down off your high horse and stop being defensive. So you volunteer. Cool. That doesn't mean you have to defend the indefensible.
Get on board with making voting easier and getting some of the money to people like yourself, don't insult people arrogantly.

I voted, I don't live in an anthill (remember, a trailer in Amish country lol) so there was no wait.

Here's a suggestion. Get involved in your community. Call your locally elected officials after the election and find out the average wait time at all precincts instead of relying on generalized news media reports of "lines" "somewhere," probably nowhere near where you live. Then, if it was a problem, get together with some like-minded individuals and do something about it. After the last election in my locality, this happened: fairfaxcounty.gov/electioncommission/election-commission-report.htm And guess what? As recommended by this commission, every precinct this election had electronic check-in stations with drivers licence scanners so people could get in and out in 25 minutes. We even had "curbside voting" at every single polling place for people with physical disabilities. Teachers were told to "work at home" on our workday to free up parking spaces for voters at school polling locations. Only one polling place was a two-precinct polling place. Pretty much every recommendation in the commission report was implemented. Ironically, the people who slowed down the lines were the ones (the few) who didn't bring a drivers license and used some other photo ID instead that couldn't be scanned. Uh-oh. You know what that means. It must be Democratic Voter Suppression!!!!! We've got to allow the poor black voters to slow down the line or it just won't be fair!!!!! (Do you hear how ridiculous that sounds? It is ridiculous when you realize that A UNIFORM VOTER ID SPEEDS UP THE LINES.)

I have no problem at all with making voter easier. I never said don't make it easier. I said quit whining about waiting in a line as though your rights are being trampled on when localities are working with what they have to make the election happen. Celebrate democracy. Get out of your damned trailer, spend time with your neighbors, and join together in this wonderful communal event. The only thing you hear in my voice is my being sick of all the people in this country who do nothing but bitch, bitch, bitch about everything that's wrong and then when I attend a government meeting, CRICKETS. The room is practically empty. The same people always show up, and then everybody else gets mad at the decisions that the people who show up recommend. You want things to move and shake in your favor? Public meetings are OPEN to all members of the public. Find your seat at the table.

If you read my posts, I haven't waited in line to vote, (ever, actually) my concern is for democracy at large.

Fact -- lines are long
Your interpretation of the fact -- democracy is doomed
My interpretation of the fact -- democracy is alive and well

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Former Assistant Director at the FBI Tom Fuentes



Probably not Gern approved

He doesn't work for the FBI or Justice. That's the meaning of 'official'. The people telling Fuentes may very well be the same sources that were leaking to Rudy which forced Comey's hand on the letter (if he had to be forced). I'm not saying there isn't an investigation, but the leaks could be just intended to sway the voters without having any merit.

I understand but you see how "official" is an impossibility at this stage. By your standards all reporting should be ignored on any topic regardless of how many corroborating sources there are. With respect to the foundation there are many sources and multiple news agencies reporting that the foundation is being investigated. Nobody knows what the result will be but the investigation is happening. Also I believe Comey forced his own hand when he told congress under oth that he would update them if new evidence became available. That one statement required him to send that letter and the letter was sent before Rudy got involved.

You mean like "yellow cake" and "aluminum tubes?" Or VP Cheney on the Sunday morning circuit?

You're back!

Just in time to ruin this shit show of a thread. I went to TOTD last night and woke up in Temple Bar. I think Stone did it to keep me from voting.

Can we discuss Yemen now?

mrussel1

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Former Assistant Director at the FBI Tom Fuentes



Probably not Gern approved

He doesn't work for the FBI or Justice. That's the meaning of 'official'. The people telling Fuentes may very well be the same sources that were leaking to Rudy which forced Comey's hand on the letter (if he had to be forced). I'm not saying there isn't an investigation, but the leaks could be just intended to sway the voters without having any merit.

I understand but you see how "official" is an impossibility at this stage. By your standards all reporting should be ignored on any topic regardless of how many corroborating sources there are. With respect to the foundation there are many sources and multiple news agencies reporting that the foundation is being investigated. Nobody knows what the result will be but the investigation is happening. Also I believe Comey forced his own hand when he told congress under oth that he would update them if new evidence became available. That one statement required him to send that letter and the letter was sent before Rudy got involved.

You mean like "yellow cake" and "aluminum tubes?" Or VP Cheney on the Sunday morning circuit?

You're back!

Just in time to ruin this shit show of a thread. I went to TOTD last night and woke up in Temple Bar. I think Stone did it to keep me from voting.

Can we discuss Yemen now?

You know I'm heartened by how many of us went to TOTD. Shows we remember why we're on this board.

Halifax2TheMax

Even I know that if we were all in the same bar together pre/post show, we'd be buying each other rounds and laughing our asses off.

brianlux

Halifax2TheMax said:

Even I know that if we were all in the same bar together pre/post show, we'd be buying each other rounds and laughing our asses off.

Cheers, bud!

PJfanwillneverleave1

Halifax2TheMax said:

Even I know that if we were all in the same bar together pre/post show, we'd be buying each other rounds and laughing our asses off.

As long as we just talk about the weather and PJ.
Welcome back.

BS44325

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

Former Assistant Director at the FBI Tom Fuentes



Probably not Gern approved

He doesn't work for the FBI or Justice. That's the meaning of 'official'. The people telling Fuentes may very well be the same sources that were leaking to Rudy which forced Comey's hand on the letter (if he had to be forced). I'm not saying there isn't an investigation, but the leaks could be just intended to sway the voters without having any merit.

I understand but you see how "official" is an impossibility at this stage. By your standards all reporting should be ignored on any topic regardless of how many corroborating sources there are. With respect to the foundation there are many sources and multiple news agencies reporting that the foundation is being investigated. Nobody knows what the result will be but the investigation is happening. Also I believe Comey forced his own hand when he told congress under oth that he would update them if new evidence became available. That one statement required him to send that letter and the letter was sent before Rudy got involved.

You mean like "yellow cake" and "aluminum tubes?" Or VP Cheney on the Sunday morning circuit?

You're back!

Just in time to ruin this shit show of a thread. I went to TOTD last night and woke up in Temple Bar. I think Stone did it to keep me from voting.

Can we discuss Yemen now?

Not yet. Heading to San Fran in a couple of daus for my TOTD shows. We can talk about Yemen when I get back.

JC29856

Looks like PA will hand Hilliary the presidency.

Free

ledvedderman said:

JC29856 said:

Wow. Georgia going to Hilliary.
Game over!

Please stop. You're clogging things up for people hoping to find real news.

The real news is Hillary won a long time ago, we already knew it!

rgambs

Free said:

ledvedderman said:

JC29856 said:

Wow. Georgia going to Hilliary.
Game over!

Please stop. You're clogging things up for people hoping to find real news.

The real news is Hillary won a long time ago, we already knew it!

The part of me that hopes for Trump to win so that your foolishness will be laid bare is about the size of a carbon atom...bit it is there lol

HughFreakingDillon

Gibsons whiskey + CNN = stress.