PC Has Infected The US Military.....

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=2

*KABUL, Afghanistan — In his last phone call home, Lance Cpl. Gregory Buckley Jr. told his father what was troubling him: From his bunk in southern Afghanistan, he could hear Afghan police officers sexually abusing boys they had brought to the base.

“At night we can hear them screaming, but we’re not allowed to do anything about it,” the Marine’s father, Gregory Buckley Sr., recalled his son telling him before he was shot to death at the base in 2012. He urged his son to tell his superiors. “My son said that his officers told him to look the other way because it’s their culture.”*

Hard to believe our military is there to fight the Taliban and provide security yet have to do nothing in stopping the raping of boys and girls there. Many soldiers are relieved of their duties for not looking the other way, this is rediculous.

Peace

dignin

Political correctness or politics?

Bentleyspop

Unfortunately this is not a new issue.
The U.S. military has had to deal with this ugliest of culture clashes since 2001.

People have tried to deal with this to no avail.
Apparently it has been part of the Afghan culture for centuries.

Guess this is another case of knowing when to pick your battles.

rr165892

That explains all the dude kissing and exclusion of women.I don't get it.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Bentleyspop said:

Unfortunately this is not a new issue.
The U.S. military has had to deal with this ugliest of culture clashes since 2001.

People have tried to deal with this to no avail.
Apparently it has been part of the Afghan culture for centuries.

Guess this is another case of knowing when to pick your battles.

Nice part of their culture.

dudeman

This is a damn shame.

Godfather.

and you guy's didn't know about these guy's using young boy's for sex.....you never heard of it?

Godfather.

Godfather.

did you know these people strap explosives onto young kids and send them to the American solders ? ever heard the goat and sheep stories ? none of this is new news unfortunately.

Godfather.

callen

GF do we need to discuss all the wonderful things some Americans do.

Jared. Some priests .

There are shit humans everywhere.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

GF do we need to discuss all the wonderful things some Americans do.

Jared. Some priests .

There are shit humans everywhere.

Jared had a 20 page thread about him. This thread goes 6 posts before the big deflection tactic. Let's not excuse grown men humping little boys too quickly- even if it is a 'cultural' thing.

Dirtie_Frank

I agree with GF this has been going on for centuries. Callen yes it is fucked up but at least in the west it is not condoned, in places like Afghanistan it is the norm.

Godfather.

callen said:

GF do we need to discuss all the wonderful things some Americans do.

Jared. Some priests .

There are shit humans everywhere.

there are no excuses and no hiding what is culturally accepted in some countries where men see women as property and young kids and even animals as sexual pleasure.

Godfather.

jeffbr

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

callen said:

GF do we need to discuss all the wonderful things some Americans do.

Jared. Some priests .

There are shit humans everywhere.

Jared had a 20 page thread about him. This thread goes 6 posts before the big deflection tactic. Let's not excuse grown men humping little boys too quickly- even if it is a 'cultural' thing.

Bravo, Thirty. Exactly right. Sure we have some fucked up Americans like Jared and priests referenced by Callen, but it isn't tolerated or institutionalized (except by the church), and is dealt with swiftly. dignin asked Political Correctness or Politics? I think it is both. Politically we were/are on a misguided adventure in the Middle East, and apparently make necessary concessions in the name of diplomacy. But political correctness does have something to do with this as well. It is drilled into us that if we are to be a more enlightened people, we need to embrace cultural differences, and not speak ill of other cultures. Accept and respect our differences and learn to live together. I call bullshit on that notion when we're talking about men sodomizing young boys and having it dismissed as "cultural". It's fucking sick, twisted, criminal, and evil. It should be called out, condemned, and fought. If I were a soldier there (which would never happen in a million years), I would have been shipped back to the states for insubordination, disobeying a direct order, and assault and battery after putting the butt of my weapon into the head of the sodomizer. Zero tolerance. Cultural differences be damned in this case.

callen

So easy to cast stones.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

So easy to cast stones.

At men who hump little boys? Yes it is.

jeffbr

callen said:

So easy to cast stones.

??? I get that you try to be even-handed, and sometimes play devil's advocate a little bit. But your defense or dismissal of pedophilia is a little disturbing to me.

Or maybe the casting of stones was a cultural reference to a form of punishment being practiced there. In which case, I embrace that cultural practice if the sodomizer is the target of those stones.

rr165892

callen said:

So easy to cast stones.

Who are you defending? The Pervs?

Go Beavers

Maybe it depends on your definition of PC, but the military is about the least PC thing I can think of.

josevolution

If that's accepted in that culture I don't want no part of those savages let them blow themselves up fucking pigs ....that whole region is so screwed up why must we be over there helping any of them is insane I'm including Israel too ....

Godfather.

josevolution said:

If that's accepted in that culture I don't want no part of those savages let them blow themselves up fucking pigs ....that whole region is so screwed up why must we be over there helping any of them is insane I'm including Israel too ....

and keep them out of our country !.....on my wish list.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul

I have read that this behaviour (sexual abuse of little boys) is outrageously common and largely accepted in Afghanistan. That is so fucked up, I'm sure I don't have to describe my disgust here. But is it legal there too???? If not, then the military really ARE pigs.

PJ_Soul

callen said:

So easy to cast stones.

What are you trying to say here??

hedonist

I simply can't imagine the damage done to these boys that will stay with them for life, whether physically, emotionally, mentally (or hey! maybe a triple-hit).

Just fucked up and unacceptable - and apparently, sadly, unstoppable.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul said:

callen said:

So easy to cast stones.

What are you trying to say here??

maybe Callen is a believer ? all men are guilty of sin and what sin is worse in God's eye's ?
I'm just taking a shot at a guess here Callen.

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

jeffbr said:

callen said:

So easy to cast stones.

??? I get that you try to be even-handed, and sometimes play devil's advocate a little bit. But your defense or dismissal of pedophilia is a little disturbing to me.

Or maybe the casting of stones was a cultural reference to a form of punishment being practiced there. In which case, I embrace that cultural practice if the sodomizer is the target of those stones.

This must be what he meant!

Yes. Yes I agree. We need lots of stones to cast at little-boy-humpers and not rocks.

Stones are smoother and easier to throw on the line you release them on- ensuring a successful strike to the foreheads of the aforementioned little-boy-humpers.

Good thinking Callen (and good catch, Jeff)!

badbrains

Anyone around during the 80's or early 90's remember this? Every "culture" has these sick fucks in them. You just hear more about it about the afghan people because, hey, we need a boogie man.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial



And for Callen bashing, he's not defending this shit and you guys know it. If you took his comment as that then that's really stretching it. I remember I posted a thread about soldiers (our) raping little Iraq boys in front of their mothers during the invasion and it garnered zero interest. But if it's a brown Muslim Arab then let's discuss the shit out of it.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/classified-evidence-us-soldiers-raped-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers/200160/

Couple of examples of cases animal sex in the U.S.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1822223/florida-man-arrested-after-wife-calls-police-when-she-catches-him-having-sex-with-familys-chihuahua/

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/fla-man-arrested-sex-pit-bull-yard-report-article-1.1712069

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/alabama-man-caught-sex-wife-dog-revenge-article-1.2259405

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/alabama-man-caught-sex-wife-dog-revenge-article-1.2259405

It happens EVERYWHERE and in EVERY culture. Humans are a sick fucken breed.

hedonist

badbrains said:

Every "culture" has these sick fucks in them.

Yup.

Shit...look at Thailand.

Happens to have a light shining on this in particular right now, but it's all over, and too many - for myriads of reasons - turn a blind eye.

I'm somewhat ignorant on the ramifications of military involvement but can relate to their disgust, to their want and need to step in, try and help these kids.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

badbrains said:

Anyone around during the 80's or early 90's remember this? Every "culture" has these sick fucks in them. You just hear more about it about the afghan people because, hey, we need a boogie man.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial



And for Callen bashing, he's not defending this shit and you guys know it. If you took his comment as that then that's really stretching it. I remember I posted a thread about soldiers (our) raping little Iraq boys in front of their mothers during the invasion and it garnered zero interest. But if it's a brown Muslim Arab then let's discuss the shit out of it.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/classified-evidence-us-soldiers-raped-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers/200160/

Couple of examples of cases animal sex in the U.S.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1822223/florida-man-arrested-after-wife-calls-police-when-she-catches-him-having-sex-with-familys-chihuahua/

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/fla-man-arrested-sex-pit-bull-yard-report-article-1.1712069

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/alabama-man-caught-sex-wife-dog-revenge-article-1.2259405

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/alabama-man-caught-sex-wife-dog-revenge-article-1.2259405

It happens EVERYWHERE and in EVERY culture. Humans are a sick fucken breed.

You won't find me thinking little-boy-humping is different under any circumstances. Even if they're purple and they live in an undiscovered country... if they hump little boys... we should throw stones at them.

It just seems like the right thing to do.

The boogeyman comment doesn't fit here, BB. I (for one) was as critical of those US soldiers that you posted as I have been about any other perverted loser that has found themselves posted in this forum.

josevolution

Yes let me be clear this kind of behavior should not be accepted in any culture , ours theirs , not anywhere !!

callen

jeffbr said:

callen said:

So easy to cast stones.

??? I get that you try to be even-handed, and sometimes play devil's advocate a little bit. But your defense or dismissal of pedophilia is a little disturbing to me.

Or maybe the casting of stones was a cultural reference to a form of punishment being practiced there. In which case, I embrace that cultural practice if the sodomizer is the target of those stones.

Huh? I'm not defending anything. Come on now. Won't take offense but could.

Simply said there's shit humans everywhere and though I get Muslim bashing may give one a chubby it's just that. We have lots a child rapists here. There are sick fucks everywhere. Other than getting all mighty about how great we are do something about it.

Be so much easier for me to just go with the flow. Just recognize motivations and hypocrisy.

callen

PJ_Soul said:

callen said:

So easy to cast stones.

What are you trying to say here??

See post above for elaboration.