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callencallen Posts: 6,388
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Just gotta suck for republicans when their platform of guns, gays, environment and immigration is counter to the Pope. He's being threatened by "Catholic" Republicans to not discuss climate change, guns etc when he addresses congress. Republicans are scared as Shit that their Godliness platform will be busted for what it is. A sham.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/politics/pope-francis-congress-republicans-politics/index.html

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    I particularly like this quote: "I'm always concerned about those who are bringing spiritual messages that step too far over the line in terms of political issues," said Sen. Dan Coats, an Indiana Republican and Presbyterian.

    Others said similar messages. Interesting that they feel it's inappropriate for the pope to mix the religious and political spheres. I wonder if Coats would be similarly concerned about those in the political arena stepping too far over the line into religious issues.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Most Republican politicians these days seem to pander to the Christian right and the Christian right takes the attitude that Jesus is going to swoop back down and whisk all the good believers and take them to heaven and believing that somehow makes it OK to give the planet a good fucking over so when we see someone like Inhofe say "I think it's totally inappropriate that the Pope is weighing in on all the real sensitive, far-left issues," I'm more than ever convinced that "far-left" means "take care of the planet, take care of the people ON the planet". And that the Pope cares about these things? Yeah! Right on! Go Pope Francis!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I heard Chris Christie say that the pope is not infallible to political issues.

    Isn't that a cardinal sin?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,247
    ^^^That might be the greatest thing I've ever seen
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    RiotZact said:

    ^^^That might be the greatest thing I've ever seen

    It's sad how true it is.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    image
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    dignin said:

    image

    oh the irony.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    I read this earlier today. Is relevant.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/09/pope_francis_in_the_united_states_why_he_isn_t_the_liberal_rock_star_american.html
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    This is something else

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNs_6_FXc4
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    dignin said:

    This is something else

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNs_6_FXc4

    Paranoia and fear mongering at it's finest.
    Way to go Faux!

    The Pope is anti-capitalism?! Concerned about global warming?! He must be THE DEVIL INCARNATE! image
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Think republicans are digging themselves a hole.

    I am so glad something Christian is aligning with peace loving socialist pinko liberals. We are anti death penalty. Medicine for the poor. Just never understood how republicans claimed the virtue card. Yeah abortion. Guess we could work on that one to minimize it's use. Science will fix this I'm sure. Republican war mongers are then doomed.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    callen said:

    Think republicans are digging themselves a hole.

    I am so glad something Christian is aligning with peace loving socialist pinko liberals. We are anti death penalty. Medicine for the poor. Just never understood how republicans claimed the virtue card. Yeah abortion. Guess we could work on that one to minimize it's use. Science will fix this I'm sure. Republican war mongers are then doomed.

    So this guy now represents liberals (or at least is being praised by the left)? What about reproductive rights (not just abortion, but birth control). Women in the priesthood. Gays in the priesthood. Gay marriage - remember just a few months ago that the Irish vote for gay marriage was a "defeat for humanity".

    I'm guessing neither this pope's views, nor that church's doctrine is a liberal's wet dream. I think it is safe to say that this church is probably out of touch with the views of many on both sides of the divide. I don't know how someone with conservative views can support this church (and by extension, this pope). But I also don't know how someone with liberal views can either.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    The fact that we have a Pope today who promotes progressive views (as in progress, moving forward) is simple amazing. He's one man, no doubt a man with imperfections, but much of which Pope Francis stands up for is the kind of moving forward I've been working and waiting to see happen for a LONG time. Happy to see it happening at this level.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    brianlux said:

    The fact that we have a Pope today who promotes progressive views (as in progress, moving forward) is simple amazing. He's one man, no doubt a man with imperfections, but much of which Pope Francis stands up for is the kind of moving forward I've been working and waiting to see happen for a LONG time. Happy to see it happening at this level.

    That's just it. By no means is he perfect......but he is moving forward on some of the most important progressive issues facing humans today. Climate change and income inequality being a few. The man walks the talk unlike many Christians.

    I for one can give him a pass on the smaller shit like the ones jeffbr has referenced.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Baby steps. Better than no steps.
  • JUST A GIRLJUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    The popes go through a satanic ritual when being appointed as the new pope. God only knows what that white smoke we see is.

    Google it (since I know I'll be asked for links)

    Can't trust everyone who claims to be religious. Wish I could but I can't
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    edited September 2015
    JUST A GIRL said:

    The popes go through a satanic ritual when being appointed as the new pope. God only knows what that white smoke we see is.

    Google it (since I know I'll be asked for links)

    Can't trust everyone who claims to be religious. Wish I could but I can't

    Smoking trolls perhaps?
    Post edited by brianlux on
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    brianlux said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    The popes go through a satanic ritual when being appointed as the new pope. God only knows what that white smoke we see is.

    Google it (since I know I'll be asked for links)

    Can't trust everyone who claims to be religious. Wish I could but I can't

    Smoking trolls perhaps?
    Then wouldn't the smoke be blue?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    JUST A GIRL said:

    The popes go through a satanic ritual when being appointed as the new pope. God only knows what that white smoke we see is.

    Google it (since I know I'll be asked for links)

    Can't trust everyone who claims to be religious. Wish I could but I can't

    Smoking trolls perhaps?
    Then wouldn't the smoke be blue?
    LOL!
    JUST A GIRL said:

    The popes go through a satanic ritual when being appointed as the new pope. God only knows what that white smoke we see is.

    Google it (since I know I'll be asked for links)

    Can't trust everyone who claims to be religious. Wish I could but I can't

    OK, so what makes one ritual satanic and another holy? We could argue this forever. The rituals are part of the culture, who cares? What counts is that the Pope (any Pope) has a LOT of influence over many people so anytime a person in that kind of position is showing care for the people and care for the earth I don't give a shit if he smoke trolls with the Devil on his off hours. He's doing good things, that's what counts.

    As for you last statement, don't you claim to be religious? Or are you one of those fundies that claims to be closer to God than the religious masses?
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    hedonist said:

    Baby steps. Better than no steps.

    Exactly
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i heard the satanic ritual involves chanting "yes we can!!" over and over again while listening to stairway to heaven backwards.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    by the way, that was said purely in jest.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i heard the satanic ritual involves chanting "yes we can!!" over and over again while listening to stairway to heaven backwards.

    And I thought stairway to heaven forward was bad enough.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    oftenreading said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i heard the satanic ritual involves chanting "yes we can!!" over and over again while listening to stairway to heaven backwards.

    And I thought stairway to heaven forward was bad enough.
    Whooooooaaaaaa der fella.
    There's a reason it's the most nauseatingly overplayed song of all time!
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    ^^^ with emphasis on the "nauseating"
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    oftenreading said:

    ^^^ with emphasis on the "nauseating"

    LOL! But ya gotta love Robert crooning byyy-ayy-ing-GA stair-air-way to...

    But seriously, I mainly hate it because I can't do all the part. Damn it JIMMY! :lol:
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    rgambs said:

    oftenreading said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i heard the satanic ritual involves chanting "yes we can!!" over and over again while listening to stairway to heaven backwards.

    And I thought stairway to heaven forward was bad enough.
    Whooooooaaaaaa der fella./
    There's a reason it's the most nauseatingly overplayed song of all time!
    Heart did a badass cover of it. Even initially-surly/emotional Plant came around.

    (Page was a happy motherfucker from the get-go. Love me some Jimmy)
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