"Each year, 20,000 dolphins are slaughtered in Japan, hundreds of them in the Taiji hunt alone."
Makes my blood boil.
Sea Shepherd's are out there for the sixth year in a row documenting this disgusting slaughter, doing what they can to expose what's going on, raise awareness.
I think I'm going to try and become a vegetarian. Being a dog lover and thinking about any living creatures having to live its final moments in such fear makes me really sad.
I don't get it. Where's the outrage for chickens, cows, tuna fish, every other species of fish?
I've never understood the outcry against the whale/dolphin/seal killings. The factory's processing the worlds mc nuggets makes these brutal slayings look like dr kavorken.
I don't get it. Where's the outrage for chickens, cows, tuna fish, every other species of fish?
I've never understood the outcry against the whale/dolphin/seal killings. The factory's processing the worlds mc nuggets makes these brutal slayings look like dr kavorken.
I don't get it. Where's the outrage for chickens, cows, tuna fish, every other species of fish?
I've never understood the outcry against the whale/dolphin/seal killings. The factory's processing the worlds mc nuggets makes these brutal slayings look like dr kavorken.
What makes one species above another?
I think part of the argument relates to the intelligence of the animal. Also...there are supposed to be humane regulations for chickens, cows, etc. Of course sometimes those regulations aren't followed but they exist nonetheless.
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I don't get it. Where's the outrage for chickens, cows, tuna fish, every other species of fish?
I've never understood the outcry against the whale/dolphin/seal killings. The factory's processing the worlds mc nuggets makes these brutal slayings look like dr kavorken.
What makes one species above another?
I totally get this point, as it only seems the world is outraged when a cute and cuddly or majestic animal is killed, but when something less Disney gets offed, no one cares.
However, gimme also makes a good point. There is no real point to this. They dont, to my knowledge, consume them, or use them in any way. And honestly, even if, say, cows, were still out in the wild, most people would most likely find a mass slaughter of them highly disgusting.
And dolphins are super intelligent and social and emotional. which i think people tend to sympathize with more.
I don't get it. Where's the outrage for chickens, cows, tuna fish, every other species of fish?
I've never understood the outcry against the whale/dolphin/seal killings. The factory's processing the worlds mc nuggets makes these brutal slayings look like dr kavorken.
What makes one species above another?
I totally get this point, as it only seems the world is outraged when a cute and cuddly or majestic animal is killed, but when something less Disney gets offed, no one cares.
However, gimme also makes a good point. There is no real point to this. They dont, to my knowledge, consume them, or use them in any way. And honestly, even if, say, cows, were still out in the wild, most people would most likely find a mass slaughter of them highly disgusting.
And dolphins are super intelligent and social and emotional. which i think people tend to sympathize with more.
Actually, they do eat them - not that I'm defending this, or saying it makes it any better, but those that are killed are eaten. There is an almost insatiable appetite for sea creatures of almost any type in many Asian countries, and this includes whale/dolphin meat.
As well, the article suggests that some are captured live and sold to the aquarium trade as it is more lucrative.
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I don't get it. Where's the outrage for chickens, cows, tuna fish, every other species of fish?
I've never understood the outcry against the whale/dolphin/seal killings. The factory's processing the worlds mc nuggets makes these brutal slayings look like dr kavorken.
What makes one species above another?
Fair enough question.
First, to directly answer you question, the outrage is common among vegetarians and animals rights people.
Beyond that and besides the points Gern, gimme, Hugh and Often made (which I agree with) there are also a few other points.
First off, from an anthropocentic point of view (even though I am biocentric) even if they are eaten, it is foolish to do so. Dolphins and whales are at the top of the ocean food chain which means they have larger concentrations of toxins.
Also, several dolphin species are endangered, some close to the point of extinction (this is definitely a biocentric concern). It's also important to recognize that sea creatures in general are in danger and the oceans as a whole are in peril. If the oceans die, most or all mammals die. We certainly would die off.
These animals are highly intelligent. They are also very playful and have sophisticated communication abilities. We don't kill and eat primates for the same reasons.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Yea, I mean you see plenty of animals rights groups getting pissed off about they way we treat cows and pigs and chickens and the like which are raised for slaughter. As a meat-eater I personally acknowledge that meat might very well be murder but responsible farming where the animals are born and bred to be meat is a lot different than hunting dolphins. The tuna population is at risk of being over farmed. We need to have something in place where we treat fish populations the way we treat the cattle. It has to be sustainable. Dolphins are not bred or farmed or whatever you would call it.
Yea, I mean you see plenty of animals rights groups getting pissed off about they way we treat cows and pigs and chickens and the like which are raised for slaughter. As a meat-eater I personally acknowledge that meat might very well be murder but responsible farming where the animals are born and bred to be meat is a lot different than hunting dolphins. The tuna population is at risk of being over farmed. We need to have something in place where we treat fish populations the way we treat the cattle. It has to be sustainable. Dolphins are not bred or farmed or whatever you would call it.
Yes, and Temple Grandin's work made their lives and deaths much, much better.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Yea, I mean you see plenty of animals rights groups getting pissed off about they way we treat cows and pigs and chickens and the like which are raised for slaughter. As a meat-eater I personally acknowledge that meat might very well be murder but responsible farming where the animals are born and bred to be meat is a lot different than hunting dolphins. The tuna population is at risk of being over farmed. We need to have something in place where we treat fish populations the way we treat the cattle. It has to be sustainable. Dolphins are not bred or farmed or whatever you would call it.
Managing capture fisheries is even harder than managing hunting of land animals, and significantly harder than farming, for several reasons. One, of course, is that the animals (fish, cetaceans, etc.) move around in a way that doesn't respect any human-made borders, so any one country's laws won't apply, and we have found no mechanism to get all involved countries to agree on what reasonable capture rates are. Secondly, it's really hard to know how many there actually are when we can't see them and the ocean is so vast; sampling techniques are rough estimates at best. Third, natural populations can vary widely from year to year. Fourth, by-catch (accidental catch of a species you aren't aiming for) can be huge and have a significant effect on that species.
I am personally in favour of aquaculture as a way of limiting the effect on wild stocks. It often gets bad press, particularly in BC, but much of that is manufactured by a few individuals and isn't based on science. It isn't perfect, but no system that produces food for us will have no environmental impact.
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Yea, I mean you see plenty of animals rights groups getting pissed off about they way we treat cows and pigs and chickens and the like which are raised for slaughter. As a meat-eater I personally acknowledge that meat might very well be murder but responsible farming where the animals are born and bred to be meat is a lot different than hunting dolphins. The tuna population is at risk of being over farmed. We need to have something in place where we treat fish populations the way we treat the cattle. It has to be sustainable. Dolphins are not bred or farmed or whatever you would call it.
Yes, and Temple Grandin's work made their lives and deaths much, much better.
I had to Google Tempe Grandin cuz I've never heard that name. She has the same birthday as me!
After reading her Wikipedia I'm still not sure if your comment was sarcastic or not.
I'm not gonna act like I think there's nothing wrong with the meat industry. I just like bacon. And chicken. And burgers.
Yea, I mean you see plenty of animals rights groups getting pissed off about they way we treat cows and pigs and chickens and the like which are raised for slaughter. As a meat-eater I personally acknowledge that meat might very well be murder but responsible farming where the animals are born and bred to be meat is a lot different than hunting dolphins. The tuna population is at risk of being over farmed. We need to have something in place where we treat fish populations the way we treat the cattle. It has to be sustainable. Dolphins are not bred or farmed or whatever you would call it.
Yes, and Temple Grandin's work made their lives and deaths much, much better.
I had to Google Tempe Grandin cuz I've never heard that name. She has the same birthday as me!
After reading her Wikipedia I'm still not sure if your comment was sarcastic or not.
I'm not gonna act like I think there's nothing wrong with the meat industry. I just like bacon. And chicken. And burgers.
As Hedo said, no sarcasm. Grandin made domestic animals lives soooo much better. If you get a chance, you might want to check out the movie simply called, "Temple Grandin". Claire Danes did an INCREDIBLE job of playing Grandin. You will like!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I've really got to check out that film. Love Danes and have heard so many good things about Temple from you, B.
It's great! Her books are good too. Not the most eloquent writer but the ideas! Like when (in Thinking in Pictures) she explains how she thinks in pictures or can look over pages with complex ideas written on them and then walk around and see and study them in her head. Trippy!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
But just because people are outraged by that doesn't mean they don't have grievances elsewhere. It is perfectly acceptable to voice your disapproval of these horrendous bloodbaths in their own context and not have to whilst doing so comment on every other method of farming.
If someone is upset about chickens please create a thread, get a discussion going, this thread was about the appalling industry steeped in 'tradition' and 'cash'. Anyone choosing to eat meat that high in mercury content has to be insane, plus there are countless instances of the dolphin meat being packaged as whale meat.
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Makes my blood boil.
Sea Shepherd's are out there for the sixth year in a row documenting this disgusting slaughter, doing what they can to expose what's going on, raise awareness.
http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/2015/08/31/sea-shepherds-cove-guardians-on-site-in-taiji-for-sept-1-launch-of-operation-henkaku-1739
I've never understood the outcry against the whale/dolphin/seal killings. The factory's processing the worlds mc nuggets makes these brutal slayings look like dr kavorken.
What makes one species above another?
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i mean, some of us eat them by accident when they are in our cans of tuna, but come on, this is outright animal murder.
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However, gimme also makes a good point. There is no real point to this. They dont, to my knowledge, consume them, or use them in any way. And honestly, even if, say, cows, were still out in the wild, most people would most likely find a mass slaughter of them highly disgusting.
And dolphins are super intelligent and social and emotional. which i think people tend to sympathize with more.
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As well, the article suggests that some are captured live and sold to the aquarium trade as it is more lucrative.
First, to directly answer you question, the outrage is common among vegetarians and animals rights people.
Beyond that and besides the points Gern, gimme, Hugh and Often made (which I agree with) there are also a few other points.
First off, from an anthropocentic point of view (even though I am biocentric) even if they are eaten, it is foolish to do so. Dolphins and whales are at the top of the ocean food chain which means they have larger concentrations of toxins.
Also, several dolphin species are endangered, some close to the point of extinction (this is definitely a biocentric concern). It's also important to recognize that sea creatures in general are in danger and the oceans as a whole are in peril. If the oceans die, most or all mammals die. We certainly would die off.
These animals are highly intelligent. They are also very playful and have sophisticated communication abilities. We don't kill and eat primates for the same reasons.
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I am personally in favour of aquaculture as a way of limiting the effect on wild stocks. It often gets bad press, particularly in BC, but much of that is manufactured by a few individuals and isn't based on science. It isn't perfect, but no system that produces food for us will have no environmental impact.
After reading her Wikipedia I'm still not sure if your comment was sarcastic or not.
I'm not gonna act like I think there's nothing wrong with the meat industry. I just like bacon. And chicken. And burgers.
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Knowing Brian and his love of Ms. Grandin, I can assure you there was no sarcasm involved!
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But just because people are outraged by that doesn't mean they don't have grievances elsewhere. It is perfectly acceptable to voice your disapproval of these horrendous bloodbaths in their own context and not have to whilst doing so comment on every other method of farming.
If someone is upset about chickens please create a thread, get a discussion going, this thread was about the appalling industry steeped in 'tradition' and 'cash'. Anyone choosing to eat meat that high in mercury content has to be insane, plus there are countless instances of the dolphin meat being packaged as whale meat.