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  • The Mexican Cartels main export is weed. Last statistics I saw it is still over 70% of their business. The rest is in the other drugs.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    The Mexican Cartels main export is weed. Last statistics I saw it is still over 70% of their business. The rest is in the other drugs.

    That's a lot. Makes me wonder why in the fuck anyone would rather deal with Mexican cartels than figure out how to grow it themselves.
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  • The problem in Mexico is profound once you get outside the all-inclusive resorts.

    Mexico effectively stopped being the middle man for Columbia some time ago and based on geography has afforded cartels the opportunity to manufacture and sell drugs to their eager northern neighbour at great profit.

    The cartels make so much money that they: easily recruit young men not interested in selling chiclets; arm their soldiers with weaponry far superior to that of police and military; bribe officials that have little choice but to accept the offer; and, ultimately, run the country.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Yeah, well you won't catch me in Mexico these days, that's for sure.
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  • I stand corrected, due to all of the changes in US policy (federal minimums getting removed, leaglization in some states, medical use in others) they now say pot is 40% of their business.
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It costs just about nothing for the cartels to grow weed. They pay poor farmers almost nothing and it is just seeds and water. When shipments get taken and stashes raided they lose on the lost sales but aren't out much money. Meth costs actual money to make. The chemicals are not super expensive but have a much larger cost than weed. If we can focus the DEA and Border Patrol on meth rather than mexican schwag we could hurt the cartels much worse than we are now. I am not for legalzing all drugs, but it is pointless to go after people for some of them when the worse ones don't get the budget put into stopping it.

    I never even connected the term "cartels" with weed.... this may be because pretty much all of the weed where I am is homegrown.
    I figure the worst violence and crime is definitely coming from the trades in the harder drugs. Legalizing them would reduce that crime and violence, hence the money spent on it, dramatically. Not to mention the resulting tax dollars as pure profit. Simple. Can't wait for all the old farts in government to retire or die so that the drug stigma stuck in their brains goes with them. I have much higher expectations for the Gen Xers as far as drug policies go.
    It's naive to think that cartels have little to do with weed. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for decriminalization of most drugs. But to think drug lords wouldn't kill me and you both on sight if we were stopping 100 lbs of weed from getting g into the country is wishful thinking,
    There just aren't any "cartels" where I am, so I don't generally make the connection. I'm sure that there must be cartels for weed somewhere, like in Mexico.... There just isn't any connection where I am, so I never thought about it. Here, the closest thing to a cartel would be the Hell's Angels hand in the pot industry.... I dunno. Maybe they and similar are considered a cartel in other countries to which they export? I really never hear about any of this kind of action happening in these parts. There is some gang violence here, but that is all about a hell of a lot more than weed, and they are all a bunch of mooks, lol.
    What kind of crime is there in Canada? What are the major issues there? I'm actually curious as to what you have to say. :-)
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited September 2015

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It costs just about nothing for the cartels to grow weed. They pay poor farmers almost nothing and it is just seeds and water. When shipments get taken and stashes raided they lose on the lost sales but aren't out much money. Meth costs actual money to make. The chemicals are not super expensive but have a much larger cost than weed. If we can focus the DEA and Border Patrol on meth rather than mexican schwag we could hurt the cartels much worse than we are now. I am not for legalzing all drugs, but it is pointless to go after people for some of them when the worse ones don't get the budget put into stopping it.

    I never even connected the term "cartels" with weed.... this may be because pretty much all of the weed where I am is homegrown.
    I figure the worst violence and crime is definitely coming from the trades in the harder drugs. Legalizing them would reduce that crime and violence, hence the money spent on it, dramatically. Not to mention the resulting tax dollars as pure profit. Simple. Can't wait for all the old farts in government to retire or die so that the drug stigma stuck in their brains goes with them. I have much higher expectations for the Gen Xers as far as drug policies go.
    It's naive to think that cartels have little to do with weed. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for decriminalization of most drugs. But to think drug lords wouldn't kill me and you both on sight if we were stopping 100 lbs of weed from getting g into the country is wishful thinking,
    There just aren't any "cartels" where I am, so I don't generally make the connection. I'm sure that there must be cartels for weed somewhere, like in Mexico.... There just isn't any connection where I am, so I never thought about it. Here, the closest thing to a cartel would be the Hell's Angels hand in the pot industry.... I dunno. Maybe they and similar are considered a cartel in other countries to which they export? I really never hear about any of this kind of action happening in these parts. There is some gang violence here, but that is all about a hell of a lot more than weed, and they are all a bunch of mooks, lol.
    What kind of crime is there in Canada? What are the major issues there? I'm actually curious as to what you have to say. :-)
    There are plenty of gangs I guess (not compared to the US, but still... I know Surrey BC is really struggling with that issue, so that's definitely the main local crime problem where I am). Just about all of the gun violence you see Canadian stats on is gang related. There is also a lot of property crime in Vancouver in particular, because there is a big homelessness problem here, which comes with a drug problem, which is what leads to the property crime (car thefts/break-ins, stolen property, etc), it being the only Canadian city along with Victoria that has a mild winter. There is plenty of domestic violence of course, though nothing outside of the norm anywhere else. The Hell's Angels are certainly big in Canada. There also seem to be a lot of hit and runs. And drugs are generally easy to score apparently (outside of weed). Let's see.... the murder rate in Canada is 1.44 people per 100,000. And of course there are loads of perverts walking around free posing a danger to communities. And there is a LOT of smuggling of banned items happening, particularly in Vancouver, since it's where everything comes through from Asia.
    Crime rates in general aren't considered to be a huge problem in Canada, in relative terms. It's shitty prison sentences are though.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:

    The Mexican Cartels main export is weed. Last statistics I saw it is still over 70% of their business. The rest is in the other drugs.

    That's a lot. Makes me wonder why in the fuck anyone would rather deal with Mexican cartels than figure out how to grow it themselves.
    Lots of Americans smoke cheap Mexican shwag... It's cheap and easy to get
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