St. Louis Police Shooting, robbery and riots follow

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/20/st-louis-police-shoot-kill-suspect-during-home-search/?intcmp=hpbt1

well well well....here we go again, if you point a gun at any armmed person or police officer you will probably get shot and it wont matter what color you are.

Godfather.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    At least nine people were arrested Wednesday and St. Louis police used tear gas to clear a street of protesters after an armed man fleeing from officers was shot and killed when he pointed a gun at them.

    St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said at a press conference late Wednesday night that a group of protesters who had blocked an intersection threw glass bottles and bricks at officers and refused orders to clear the roadway. Inert gas was used and when that didn't have any effect on the crowd, police turned to tear gas to clear the intersection, Dotson said. Those arrested face charges of impeding the flow of traffic and resisting arrest, he said.

    In addition to the arrests, officers responded to reports of burglaries in the area and the fire department was called after a car was set ablaze, according to Dotson.

    The chief blamed the crimes on people seeking "notoriety" in a neighborhood "plagued by violence." Dotson added that police would release video showing that officers gave multiple orders to clear the street and repeatedly warned that the tear gas would be used.

    The latest shooting came with tensions already high in the area after violence erupted during several events earlier this month marking the anniversary of the death of Michael Brown, the 18-year-old fatally shot last year by a police officer in nearby Ferguson.

    Dotson said two police officers serving a search warrant Wednesday afternoon at a home in a crime-troubled section of the city's north side encountered two suspects, one of which was 18-year-old Mansur Ball-Bey. The suspects were fleeing the home as Ball-Bey, who was black, turned and pointed a handgun at the officers, who shot him, the chief said. Ball-Bey died at the scene.

    Both officers, who are white, were unharmed, according to a police report.

    Dotson said four guns, including the handgun wielded by Ball-Bey, and crack cocaine were recovered at or near the home, which last year yielded illegal guns during a police search. Police are searching for the second suspect, who they said is believed to be in his mid-to-late teens.

    A man and woman who were also inside the home were arrested, Dotson said.

    Police obtained the search warrant because they believed the home harbored suspects in other crimes, Dotson said. He didn't specify which crimes, but noted that a killing happened on the same street Monday and a nearby market just was riddled by bullets.

    That area also is near where a 93-year-old veteran who was part of the Tuskegee Airmen -- black World War II pilots -- was the victim of crimes twice within a few minutes Sunday, being robbed and then having his car stolen. The veteran was unhurt, and his car was found Tuesday blocks from where it was taken.

    Roughly 150 people gathered Wednesday afternoon near the scene of the shooting, questioning the use of deadly force. Some chanted "Black Lives Matter," a mantra used after Brown's death. As police removed their yellow tape that cordoned off the scene, dozens of people converged on the home's front yard, many chanting insults and gesturing obscenely at officers. Several onlookers surrounded individual officers, yelling at them.

    "Another youth down by the hands of police," Dex Dockett, 42, who lives nearby, told a reporter. "What could have been done different to de-escalate rather than escalate? They (police) come in with an us-against-them mentality. You've got to have the right kind of cops to engage in these types of neighborhoods."

    Another neighborhood resident, Fred Price, said he was skeptical about Dotson's account that the suspect pointed a gun at officers before being mortally wounded.

    "They provoked the situation," Price, 33, said. "Situations like this make us want to keep the police out of the neighborhood. They're shooting first, then asking questions."

    Some of those who protested Ball-Bey's death had already spent the morning in downtown St. Louis, marching to mark the anniversary of the fatal police shooting of Kajieme Powell. He was fatally shot by two St. Louis officers after police said he approached them with a knife. Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce is still reviewing the case to determine whether lethal force was justified.

    Protests have become a familiar scene across the St. Louis region since Brown, who was black and unarmed, was fatally shot by Ferguson officer Darren Wilson on Aug. 9, 2014. A St. Louis County grand jury and the U.S. Justice Department declined to charge Wilson, who resigned in November.

  • "The cop's gotta figure out a different way to deal with us when we are trying to sell crack, flee the scene, and aim guns at them."

    If the official story is correct... is this what I hear Dex Society say?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    So let's see if the pro thug lobby wants to weigh in here.Stupid criminals doing stupid things,get offed.Typical.This is what happens everyday.
    This has nothing to do with race although the idiots protesting would like to make it that.This is about criminals facing the blunt edge of law enforcement .Dont want to die? Don't aim a gun at cops.End of discussion.Fuck wads got what they deserved.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    edited August 2015

    "The cop's gotta figure out a different way to deal with us when we are trying to sell crack, flee the scene, and aim guns at them."

    If the official story is correct... is this what I hear Dex Society say?

    at this point I'll have keep my comments to myself, being PC is becoming very hard to do when you read stories like this one and the Brown story.

    Godfather.

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  • I'm not sure how 'Dockett' became 'society' in my previous post?

    This damn phone.

    Regardless of how crappy my autocorrect is... GF... your autocorrect is way worse.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    I'm not sure how 'Dockett' became 'society' in my previous post?

    This damn phone.

    Regardless of how crappy my autocorrect is... GF... your autocorrect is way worse.

    it's those small key pads and spell check, LOL ! it's not my fault HAHHAHHAHHAHHA

    Godfather.

  • I'm not sure how 'Dockett' became 'society' in my previous post?

    This damn phone.

    Regardless of how crappy my autocorrect is... GF... your autocorrect is way worse.

    it's those small key pads and spell check, LOL ! it's not my fault HAHHAHHAHHAHHA

    Godfather.

    Hahahaha!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769

    I'm not sure how 'Dockett' became 'society' in my previous post?

    This damn phone.

    Regardless of how crappy my autocorrect is... GF... your autocorrect is way worse.

    it's those small key pads and spell check, LOL ! it's not my fault HAHHAHHAHHAHHA

    Godfather.

    Clearly whatever device or devices gf chooses to use don't have a working autocorrect or spellcheck.

    I blame Obama :angry:
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Damn cops. How dare they defend themselves? Riot on. Riot hard.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    I'm not sure how 'Dockett' became 'society' in my previous post?

    This damn phone.

    Regardless of how crappy my autocorrect is... GF... your autocorrect is way worse.

    it's those small key pads and spell check, LOL ! it's not my fault HAHHAHHAHHAHHA

    Godfather.

    Clearly whatever device or devices gf chooses to use don't have a working autocorrect or spellcheck.

    I blame Obama :angry:
    yes it is obamas fault ! and he did it because I'm white.. LOL !!!!!!!

    Godfather.

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    Hmmm, shot in the back.........
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Such a shame to see more violence in Ferguson. Those folks are so deep in the mob mentality, there is no reason to be found.
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  • http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/20/st-louis-police-shoot-kill-suspect-during-home-search/?intcmp=hpbt1

    well well well....here we go again, if you point a gun at any armmed person or police officer you will probably get shot and it wont matter what color you are.

    Godfather.

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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Was the guy that was shot in the back the same guy that was in the surveillance video that was pointing a gun at the cops?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594

    Was the guy that was shot in the back the same guy that was in the surveillance video that was pointing a gun at the cops?

    Link?
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,555
    Yeah I'm sure no one here is saying criminals should get away with the crimes they are commiting I say every single criminal that breaks the law should be arrested prosecuted abc jailed , you point a gun at a cop you should pay the consequences ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    mickeyrat said:

    Was the guy that was shot in the back the same guy that was in the surveillance video that was pointing a gun at the cops?

    Link?
    Ok,was this the guy that was shot in the back?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jxzp7c0KU4
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    edited August 2015
    it was my understanding that this occured at a residence in the course of a search warrant.

    ^^^ THAT looks like a parking lot of a strip mall.
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    mickeyrat said:

    it was my understanding that this occured at a residence in the course of a search warrant.

    ^^^ THAT looks like a parking lot of a strip mall.

    Ok. I wasn't sure if cnn was talking about the same same guy as the strip mall guy.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Maybe the residents of Ferguson need to look in the mirror and should be worrying more about the Violence against black folks at the hands of other black folks.Quit making a mountain out of a mole hill about police violence and start working WITH law enforcement to keep the residents safe.
    I don't recall community leaders marching and protesting when the young black innocent child doing homework in her bedroom got shot and killed.Why is that? Is it because a white cop can't be blamed ,and the problem is intrinsic within the community?Here is the story.

    http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_28576.shtml
  • i did not even know this happened until yesterday. i was at the foos concert wednesday so nobody that was there was even aware.

    the kid got shot in the back. if he pulled a gun at the cops i have no sympathy for him. i want to hear from actual witnesses, because everyone in the world knows what the cops are going to say, that they felt threatened. they should have just sprinkled some crack on his body. that would have made their case air tight, right?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rr165892 said:

    Maybe the residents of Ferguson need to look in the mirror and should be worrying more about the Violence against black folks at the hands of other black folks.Quit making a mountain out of a mole hill about police violence and start working WITH law enforcement to keep the residents safe.
    I don't recall community leaders marching and protesting when the young black innocent child doing homework in her bedroom got shot and killed.Why is that? Is it because a white cop can't be blamed ,and the problem is intrinsic within the community?Here is the story.

    http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_28576.shtml

    would you work with an entity that you do not trust?

    the foundation of working together is TRUST.

    the cops can't be trusted here, and they will not use restraint, so this is just a pipe dream.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited August 2015
    You guys need to take the blinders off and get to the heart of the problem.the community needs to check itself before the worry about the cops actions,

    good for you seeing the foos.hope you enjoyed.they never disappoint
  • rr165892 said:

    You guys need to take the blinders off and get to the heart of the problem.the community needs to check itself before the worry about the cops actions,

    good for you seeing the foos.hope you enjoyed.they never disappoint

    i don't have blinders on.

    police target black men here and they do it all over the united states. you are way more likely to die at the hands of the cops if you are a black man.

    this most recent guy apparently waved or aimed a gun at a cop. he deserves to be arrested. he was shot in the back. seriously, it is like this shit is on a gif loop or something.

    black male shot in the back by cop, repeat, another black male shot in the back by cop, repeat.

    do you know who is going to be the force that unites the gangs? the cops.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Why is this community in this situation to begin with?
    You live near there.Ive driven through there.It has rampant drugs and crime,blight all around.The ride from Downtown past ferguson to the airport looks like your driving through a bombed or burned third world country.
    The guy who had the gun,got what he deserved.YES he deserved a bullet when he started waiving the gun around.Shot in back ? Yep,all completely legal.
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013

    rr165892 said:

    You guys need to take the blinders off and get to the heart of the problem.the community needs to check itself before the worry about the cops actions,

    good for you seeing the foos.hope you enjoyed.they never disappoint

    i don't have blinders on.

    police target black men here and they do it all over the united states. you are way more likely to die at the hands of the cops if you are a black man.

    this most recent guy apparently waved or aimed a gun at a cop. he deserves to be arrested. he was shot in the back. seriously, it is like this shit is on a gif loop or something.

    black male shot in the back by cop, repeat, another black male shot in the back by cop, repeat.

    do you know who is going to be the force that unites the gangs? the cops.

    I love your posts
  • rr165892 said:

    Why is this community in this situation to begin with?
    You live near there.Ive driven through there.It has rampant drugs and crime,blight all around.The ride from Downtown past ferguson to the airport looks like your driving through a bombed or burned third world country.
    The guy who had the gun,got what he deserved.YES he deserved a bullet when he started waiving the gun around.Shot in back ? Yep,all completely legal.

    dude, i am sorry, but the stretch of highway 70 that you are referring to does not resemble a bombed out, burned out third world country. please do not bullshit the good people on here.

    yes he was shot in the back. consistent with running away, when the cops here have been instructed specifically to NOT shoot people who are running away.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    You guys need to take the blinders off and get to the heart of the problem.the community needs to check itself before the worry about the cops actions,

    good for you seeing the foos.hope you enjoyed.they never disappoint

    i don't have blinders on.

    police target black men here and they do it all over the united states. you are way more likely to die at the hands of the cops if you are a black man.

    this most recent guy apparently waved or aimed a gun at a cop. he deserves to be arrested. he was shot in the back. seriously, it is like this shit is on a gif loop or something.

    black male shot in the back by cop, repeat, another black male shot in the back by cop, repeat.

    do you know who is going to be the force that unites the gangs? the cops.

    I love your posts
    i don't give a shit.

    i am glad you are not here patrolling st louis streets. we have enough problems.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661

    rr165892 said:

    You guys need to take the blinders off and get to the heart of the problem.the community needs to check itself before the worry about the cops actions,

    good for you seeing the foos.hope you enjoyed.they never disappoint

    i don't have blinders on.

    police target black men here and they do it all over the united states. you are way more likely to die at the hands of the cops if you are a black man.

    this most recent guy apparently waved or aimed a gun at a cop. he deserves to be arrested. he was shot in the back. seriously, it is like this shit is on a gif loop or something.

    black male shot in the back by cop, repeat, another black male shot in the back by cop, repeat.

    do you know who is going to be the force that unites the gangs? the cops.
    Do you have a link to verify that? Because I find that hard to believe.

    If you are waving or aiming a gun at anybody, you should expect to be shot.
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