He's getting urged because his party is seeing an independent from Vermont coming in and making everyone else look bad. The trouble in this is, I see him taking more votes from Hillary, not Bernie.
That makes sense. Maybe better if he doesn't run.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
In over 45 years of working in
global affairs, I’ve observed a simple truth: America’s ability to lead the
world depends not just on the example of our power, but on the power of our
example.
American democracy is rooted in the
belief that every man, woman and child has equal rights to freedom and dignity.
While the United States is far from perfect, we have never given up the
struggle to grow closer to the ideals in our founding documents.
The constant American endeavor to
live by our values is a great strength that has drawn generations of strivers
and dreamers to the United States, enriching our population. Around the world,
other nations follow our lead because they know that America does not simply
protect its own interests, but tries to advance the aspirations of all.
This has stood as the foundation of
American foreign policy throughout my political career — until recently.
Around the world, including in the
United States, we are seeing the resurgence of a worldview that is closed off
and clannish. President Trump keeps longstanding allies such as Germany at
arm’s length, while expressing admiration for autocrats like Vladimir V. Putin
who thwart democratic institutions.
Rather than building from a
narrative of freedom and democracy that inspires nations to rally together,
this White House casts global affairs as a zero-sum competition — for the
United States to succeed, others must lose. Among the many problems that plague
the Trump administration’s foreign policy, this line of thinking is perhaps the
most disturbing.
During a speech in July, Mr. Trump said, “The
fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.”
This statement divides the world into “us” and “them.” No American political
figure has so narrowly defined our interests since the period between the world
wars.
Mr. Trump’s shameful defense of the white nationalists and neo-Nazis
who unleashed hatred and violence in Charlottesville, Va., further abnegated America’s
moral leadership. Not since the Jim Crow era has an American president so
misunderstood and misrepresented our values.
Most recently, the Trump
administration’s order to rescind Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals —
punishing young people brought to this country by their parents, many of whom
know no home but the United States — betrays an unnecessary cruelty that
further undermines America’s standing in the world.
When Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson said that it
was important to “understand the difference between policy and values,” he
wrote off the very thing that makes the United States exceptional. And at a
time when democratic values are under siege around the globe — from populist
attacks that undermine confidence in democratic institutions to leaders who try
to bolster their power by closing the space for civil society and rolling back
citizens’ rights — the world cannot afford to have America cede the field to
illiberalism and intolerance.
Placing American democratic values
back at the center of our foreign policy does not mean we should impose our
principles abroad or refuse to talk with nations whose policies run counter to
them. There will always be times when keeping Americans safe requires working
with those whom we find distasteful. But even when we must make those hard
choices, we can never forget who we are and the future we seek.
Reclaiming our values starts with
standing up for them at home — inclusivity, tolerance, diversity, respect for
the rule of law, freedom of speech, freedom of the press. If these are the
democratic principles we wish to see around the world, America must be the
first to model them.
These are also the values that tie
us to our closest allies — the friends we depend on to address major global
challenges. They must believe that the United States will continue to support
them and to stand up for democracy.
Leading with our values also means
that we speak out when nations violate their citizens’ rights. If leaders
repress their own people, we must make clear that it constrains our ability to
cooperate with them. We can meet our security imperatives without giving a green
light to dictators who abuse universal human rights.
Finally, a foreign policy built on
our values must stand firm against foreign powers that celebrate a perceived
withdrawal of American leadership as an opportunity to increase their
influence. Without the United States standing as a bulwark for global
democracy, illiberal powers like Russia will take increasingly aggressive steps
to disrupt the international order, bully their neighbors and return to a more
divided world.
From the Marshall Plan after World
War II to our alliances in East Asia, both Republican and Democratic officials
have long embraced a vision of American leadership that fosters a more secure,
inclusive and generous planet. That ideal made the world safer and more
prosperous — for Americans and everyone else.
The international community still
needs a strong, democratic America leading the way. And the good news is that
the United States remains better positioned than any other country to shape the
direction of the 21st century. But to succeed, we cannot abandon the tenets
that we fought so hard to defend over the past seven decades — ideals that
magnified American leadership and produced the greatest increase in global
prosperity in history.
You cannot define Americans by what
they look like, where they come from, whom they love or how they worship. Only
our democratic values define us. And if we lose sight of this in our conduct at
home or abroad, we jeopardize the respect that has made the United States the
greatest nation on earth.
Biden: America’s ability to lead the
world depends not just on the example of our power, but on the power of our
example. JC: America leads by the USD being world currency and military might.
Biden: American democracy is rooted in the
belief that every man, woman and child has equal rights to freedom and dignity.
While the United States is far from perfect, we have never given up the
struggle to grow closer to the ideals in our founding documents. JC: American democracy and our founding documents are rooted in racism and white supremacy.
Biden: The constant American endeavor to
live by our values is a great strength that has drawn generations of strivers
and dreamers to the United States, enriching our population. Around the world,
other nations follow our lead because they know that America does not simply
protect its own interests, but tries to advance the aspirations of all. JC: (Values, the values over the last 20 years or the values of the previous 207 years?) Foreigners flee their homeland because of US/NATO bombs or for the USD. Nations follow our lead because otherwise they risk government overthrow or US/NATO bombs. The US only protects its own interests, which are the USD and global military control.
Biden: Most recently, the Trump
administration’s order to rescind Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals —
punishing young people brought to this country by their parents, many of whom
know no home but the United States — betrays an unnecessary cruelty that
further undermines America’s standing in the world. JC: Jan 2009 thru Jan 2017 - 3,000,000,000 were punished by record deportation not to mention those turned away at the border. You were VP to the constitutional lawyer President that declared DACA unconstitutional.
Biden: And at a
time when democratic values are under siege around the globe — from populist
attacks that undermine confidence in democratic institutions to leaders who try
to bolster their power by closing the space for civil society and rolling back
citizens’ rights — the world cannot afford to have America cede the field to
illiberalism and intolerance. JC: US democratic institutions like the FBI, NSA and CIA undermine civil societies and roll back citizens rights.
Biden: Placing American democratic values
back at the center of our foreign policy does not mean we should impose our
principles abroad or refuse to talk with nations whose policies run counter to
them. JC: American democratic values were never at the center of foreign policy (you're becoming ridiculous now). Imposing our principles abroad = dropping infectious Democracy bombs on predominately brown countries (during your tenure as VP 100,000 bombs on 7 counties). Nations that run counter to US values and policy; Israel, Saudi Arabia.
Biden: Most recently, the Trump
administration’s order to rescind Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals —
punishing young people brought to this country by their parents, many of whom
know no home but the United States — betrays an unnecessary cruelty that
further undermines America’s standing in the world. JC: Jan 2009 thru Jan 2017 - 3,000,000,000 were punished by record deportation not to mention those turned away at the border. You were VP to the constitutional lawyer President that declared DACA unconstitutional.
Biden: And at a
time when democratic values are under siege around the globe — from populist
attacks that undermine confidence in democratic institutions to leaders who try
to bolster their power by closing the space for civil society and rolling back
citizens’ rights — the world cannot afford to have America cede the field to
illiberalism and intolerance. JC: US democratic institutions like the FBI, NSA and CIA undermine civil societies and roll back citizens rights.
Biden: Placing American democratic values
back at the center of our foreign policy does not mean we should impose our
principles abroad or refuse to talk with nations whose policies run counter to
them. JC: American democratic values were never at the center of foreign policy (you're becoming ridiculous now). Imposing our principles abroad = dropping infectious Democracy bombs on predominately brown countries (during your tenure as VP 100,000 bombs on 7 counties). Nations that run counter to US values and policy; Israel, Saudi Arabia.
Is the buzz for real? Is he getting ready to jump in the race? Feels like he is the establishment's backup plan in case Hillary goes down in a blaze of scandal. I personally love the guy but I've never seen him as being #1 candidate material. But he might make the Democratic Primary a better race if he gets into it.
Thoughts?
What do you think, Jimmy? Maybe call this thread "Joe Biden For President in 2020" or something? Your thread, your call, of course!
Not a Joe Biden fan at all. He is creepy and likes to touch people inappropriately. That said, so does the current president so that’s a push if the vote is between them. And while I really dislike joe Biden, I’d vote for him over trump.
Is the buzz for real? Is he getting ready to jump in the race? Feels like he is the establishment's backup plan in case Hillary goes down in a blaze of scandal. I personally love the guy but I've never seen him as being #1 candidate material. But he might make the Democratic Primary a better race if he gets into it.
Thoughts?
What do you think, Jimmy? Maybe call this thread "Joe Biden For President in 2020" or something? Your thread, your call, of course!
Not a Joe Biden fan at all. He is creepy and likes to touch people inappropriately. That said, so does the current president so that’s a push if the vote is between them. And while I really dislike joe Biden, I’d vote for him over trump.
yuck I just threw up in my mouth there.....
See? Uncle Joe brings people together.
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Is the buzz for real? Is he getting ready to jump in the race? Feels like he is the establishment's backup plan in case Hillary goes down in a blaze of scandal. I personally love the guy but I've never seen him as being #1 candidate material. But he might make the Democratic Primary a better race if he gets into it.
Thoughts?
What do you think, Jimmy? Maybe call this thread "Joe Biden For President in 2020" or something? Your thread, your call, of course!
Putting a pin in this for now. If he announces (or if it looks like he will announce) I will change the thread title straightaway.
I hope he does run! He may not be perfect but I think he would have a good shot at winning and getting Trump out of there and he was be a vast improvement because Trump is not only bad news, his whole administration is a gang of earth haters.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Not a big fan of Uncle Joe's comments... made me cringe... he can do better
I kind of felt that way at first but at the same time, I saw it more as figuratively speaking. Besides, who here that is not a Trump supporter (that would be at least 95% of us) hasn't said something damning, outrageous, or in fury about Trump? Almost all of us have.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I don't applaud acts of violence of any kind but there are some instances where quiet approval is certainly not out the question for me.
either do i but if that orange bafoon would of called my wife ugly i'd knock his teeth out unlike Cruz who just took it and let his wife be called ugly by a moron , I give Joe a brake just for the fact that he's lost more than most humans can endure .....
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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Joe should stop worrying about Trump and take care of his kid.
Comments
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Joe Biden
In over 45 years of working in global affairs, I’ve observed a simple truth: America’s ability to lead the world depends not just on the example of our power, but on the power of our example.
American democracy is rooted in the belief that every man, woman and child has equal rights to freedom and dignity. While the United States is far from perfect, we have never given up the struggle to grow closer to the ideals in our founding documents.
The constant American endeavor to live by our values is a great strength that has drawn generations of strivers and dreamers to the United States, enriching our population. Around the world, other nations follow our lead because they know that America does not simply protect its own interests, but tries to advance the aspirations of all.
This has stood as the foundation of American foreign policy throughout my political career — until recently.
Around the world, including in the United States, we are seeing the resurgence of a worldview that is closed off and clannish. President Trump keeps longstanding allies such as Germany at arm’s length, while expressing admiration for autocrats like Vladimir V. Putin who thwart democratic institutions.
Rather than building from a narrative of freedom and democracy that inspires nations to rally together, this White House casts global affairs as a zero-sum competition — for the United States to succeed, others must lose. Among the many problems that plague the Trump administration’s foreign policy, this line of thinking is perhaps the most disturbing.
During a speech in July, Mr. Trump said, “The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.” This statement divides the world into “us” and “them.” No American political figure has so narrowly defined our interests since the period between the world wars.
Mr. Trump’s shameful defense of the white nationalists and neo-Nazis who unleashed hatred and violence in Charlottesville, Va., further abnegated America’s moral leadership. Not since the Jim Crow era has an American president so misunderstood and misrepresented our values.
Most recently, the Trump administration’s order to rescind Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals — punishing young people brought to this country by their parents, many of whom know no home but the United States — betrays an unnecessary cruelty that further undermines America’s standing in the world.
When Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson said that it was important to “understand the difference between policy and values,” he wrote off the very thing that makes the United States exceptional. And at a time when democratic values are under siege around the globe — from populist attacks that undermine confidence in democratic institutions to leaders who try to bolster their power by closing the space for civil society and rolling back citizens’ rights — the world cannot afford to have America cede the field to illiberalism and intolerance.
Placing American democratic values back at the center of our foreign policy does not mean we should impose our principles abroad or refuse to talk with nations whose policies run counter to them. There will always be times when keeping Americans safe requires working with those whom we find distasteful. But even when we must make those hard choices, we can never forget who we are and the future we seek.
Reclaiming our values starts with standing up for them at home — inclusivity, tolerance, diversity, respect for the rule of law, freedom of speech, freedom of the press. If these are the democratic principles we wish to see around the world, America must be the first to model them.
These are also the values that tie us to our closest allies — the friends we depend on to address major global challenges. They must believe that the United States will continue to support them and to stand up for democracy.
Leading with our values also means that we speak out when nations violate their citizens’ rights. If leaders repress their own people, we must make clear that it constrains our ability to cooperate with them. We can meet our security imperatives without giving a green light to dictators who abuse universal human rights.
Finally, a foreign policy built on our values must stand firm against foreign powers that celebrate a perceived withdrawal of American leadership as an opportunity to increase their influence. Without the United States standing as a bulwark for global democracy, illiberal powers like Russia will take increasingly aggressive steps to disrupt the international order, bully their neighbors and return to a more divided world.
From the Marshall Plan after World War II to our alliances in East Asia, both Republican and Democratic officials have long embraced a vision of American leadership that fosters a more secure, inclusive and generous planet. That ideal made the world safer and more prosperous — for Americans and everyone else.
The international community still needs a strong, democratic America leading the way. And the good news is that the United States remains better positioned than any other country to shape the direction of the 21st century. But to succeed, we cannot abandon the tenets that we fought so hard to defend over the past seven decades — ideals that magnified American leadership and produced the greatest increase in global prosperity in history.
You cannot define Americans by what they look like, where they come from, whom they love or how they worship. Only our democratic values define us. And if we lose sight of this in our conduct at home or abroad, we jeopardize the respect that has made the United States the greatest nation on earth.
JC: America leads by the USD being world currency and military might.
Biden: American democracy is rooted in the belief that every man, woman and child has equal rights to freedom and dignity. While the United States is far from perfect, we have never given up the struggle to grow closer to the ideals in our founding documents.
JC: American democracy and our founding documents are rooted in racism and white supremacy.
Biden: The constant American endeavor to live by our values is a great strength that has drawn generations of strivers and dreamers to the United States, enriching our population. Around the world, other nations follow our lead because they know that America does not simply protect its own interests, but tries to advance the aspirations of all.
JC: (Values, the values over the last 20 years or the values of the previous 207 years?)
Foreigners flee their homeland because of US/NATO bombs or for the USD. Nations follow our lead because otherwise they risk government overthrow or US/NATO bombs. The US only protects its own interests, which are the USD and global military control.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
JC: Jan 2009 thru Jan 2017 - 3,000,000,000 were punished by record deportation not to mention those turned away at the border. You were VP to the constitutional lawyer President that declared DACA unconstitutional.
Biden: And at a time when democratic values are under siege around the globe — from populist attacks that undermine confidence in democratic institutions to leaders who try to bolster their power by closing the space for civil society and rolling back citizens’ rights — the world cannot afford to have America cede the field to illiberalism and intolerance.
JC: US democratic institutions like the FBI, NSA and CIA undermine civil societies and roll back citizens rights.
Biden: Placing American democratic values back at the center of our foreign policy does not mean we should impose our principles abroad or refuse to talk with nations whose policies run counter to them.
JC: American democratic values were never at the center of foreign policy (you're becoming ridiculous now). Imposing our principles abroad = dropping infectious Democracy bombs on predominately brown countries (during your tenure as VP 100,000 bombs on 7 counties). Nations that run counter to US values and policy; Israel, Saudi Arabia.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/350589-joe-biden-save-democrats-and-run-for-president-in-2020
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
In any case, this is promising!:
http://www.newsweek.com/biden-trump-2020-election-838402
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
yuck I just threw up in my mouth there.....
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-beat-hell-trump-high-school-disrespecting-women/story?id=53897309
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Just what I’d want to watch to senior citizens fighting...not
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
trump wins - $ goes towards wall
biden wins - $ goes towards cell phones for welfare recipients
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"