What's up with the millenials anyway?

2-feign-reluctance

A great read...I work in higher ed and have noticed this trend.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

whispering hands

Yeah a co-worker and I were just discussing this.. It's dumbing down our future generations. Very very sad indeed. We will be living out the plot to the movie Idiocracy very soon at this rate..

Empty Glass

I read barstoolsports.com daily and they'll blog every so often about something like this. It'll fall under the title: Pussification of America

I would think you'd want to be put in stressful situations so you'll learn how to deal with them. Avoiding them all together is not the answer.

Amongst the Ani

I have said it before and I will say it again. Bullies serve a purpose in society. I don't mean bullying to the point of making kids suicidal, but bullies are who taught you to toughen up so to say. This is not ok and will kill this country. You know who I really feel bad for, drill instructors in our military. I couldn't imagine taking this generation and trying to turn them into well oiled killing machines.

hedonist

Well...look at all of the technology in place already to assist those who shouldn't need it - autocorrect on your phone, rear-view cameras in your car, back-up sensors, sensors telling you when you're DRIFTING INTO THE NEXT LANE, and on.

Kind of odd how "sensor" and "censor" are somewhat similar.

It all reminds me of the Beatles' Think for Yourself.

dankind

Amongst the Ani said:

You know who I really feel bad for, drill instructors in our military. I couldn't imagine taking this generation and trying to turn them into well oiled killing machines.

Don't worry. Plenty of redneck kids/parents still out there.

InHiding80

At least Xers had taste in music and wanted their rock to actually "ROCK" but today this generation wants everything stripped of edge and we get Pat Boone definitions of "rock" no thanks to Maroon 5, One Republic and Imagine Dragons ffs. They want everything Disneyfied now. Bella from Twilight is now considered a feminist icon for today, goddamnit. I'm not for straight up extreme feminazi-ism since I'm a straight guy but today's Kartrashian and 50 Shades loving girls have no self respect at all and it sickens me.

HesCalledDyer

It always disgusts me when I read a story about some little league or high school coach who gets fined or suspended or fired for his/her team beating the living snot out of an opposing team. This everyone gets a trophy bullshit is sickening!

ldent42

InHiding80 said:

At least Xers had taste in music and wanted their rock to actually "ROCK" but today this generation wants everything stripped of edge and we get Pat Boone definitions of "rock" no thanks to Maroon 5, One Republic and Imagine Dragons ffs. They want everything Disneyfied now. Bella from Twilight is now considered a feminist icon for today, goddamnit. I'm not for straight up extreme feminazi-ism since I'm a straight guy but today's Kartrashian and 50 Shades loving girls have no self respect at all and it sickens me.

Whoever told you that Bella from Twilight is a feminist icon was fucking with you. There could be 300 more waves before they reach a point where the classic damsel in distress is a feminist icon.

Also, youse sound like a bunch of old people complaining about the youths.

dankind

"All that's sacred ..."

Indifference71

HesCalledDyer said:

It always disgusts me when I read a story about some little league or high school coach who gets fined or suspended or fired for his/her team beating the living snot out of an opposing team. This everyone gets a trophy bullshit is sickening!

The participation trophy generation. My cousin's 8 year old son got a trophy for his soccer team that finished in 10th place out of 10 teams. I just don't get it....

2-feign-reluctance

Indifference71 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

It always disgusts me when I read a story about some little league or high school coach who gets fined or suspended or fired for his/her team beating the living snot out of an opposing team. This everyone gets a trophy bullshit is sickening!

The participation trophy generation. My cousin's 8 year old son got a trophy for his soccer team that finished in 10th place out of 10 teams. I just don't get it....

We are raising kids to be oversensitive about everything - the article highlights how this can play out into early adulthood and in higher education.

hedonist

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

dankind

2-feign-reluctance said:

Indifference71 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

It always disgusts me when I read a story about some little league or high school coach who gets fined or suspended or fired for his/her team beating the living snot out of an opposing team. This everyone gets a trophy bullshit is sickening!

The participation trophy generation. My cousin's 8 year old son got a trophy for his soccer team that finished in 10th place out of 10 teams. I just don't get it....

We are raising kids to be oversensitive about everything - the article highlights how this can play out into early adulthood and in higher education.

It's a great article, Chris. Thanks for sharing.

Every time I give up on The Atlantic, it cranks out a stellar piece like this.

PJ_Soul

I work at a university, and the millennials are driving me fucking crazy. I feel pissed off at their parents a lot.

JWPearl

''they missed alot of spaces'' and probably dont fully understand the issue but its probably being resolved

InHiding80

ldent42 said:

InHiding80 said:

At least Xers had taste in music and wanted their rock to actually "ROCK" but today this generation wants everything stripped of edge and we get Pat Boone definitions of "rock" no thanks to Maroon 5, One Republic and Imagine Dragons ffs. They want everything Disneyfied now. Bella from Twilight is now considered a feminist icon for today, goddamnit. I'm not for straight up extreme feminazi-ism since I'm a straight guy but today's Kartrashian and 50 Shades loving girls have no self respect at all and it sickens me.

Whoever told you that Bella from Twilight is a feminist icon was fucking with you. There could be 300 more waves before they reach a point where the classic damsel in distress is a feminist icon.

Also, youse sound like a bunch of old people complaining about the youths.

And you sound like a millennial ignoramus. I've felt this way for 16 years since I gradated high school ffs. But keep telling yourself that it's hyperbolic when it's the actual harsh truth I'm speaking if it helps you sleep at night.

John Lennon said it best. The more real you get, the more fake the world and those around you are.

Empty Glass

AET joke time....

Rob is a millenial......of the 1900's




I'll see myself out

HesCalledDyer

hedonist said:

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

Excellent points here in bold! The only social media I use is instagram, because I enjoy photography. But I see parents posting their kids doing every little thing possible on their profiles. The ones that really get me are the parents who have specific hashtag nicknames for their children like they are some kind of object of possession instead of a person. You don't have to put #myperfectgentleman on every picture of little Johnny.
Don't even get me started with the stick figure families on backs of cars...
We want our kids to be safe, yet we advertise where they are and what they're doing, what clubs they're in or sports they play, etc 'round the clock.

Amongst the Ani

Empty Glass said:

AET joke time....

Rob is a millenial......of the 1900's




I'll see myself out

Ribbertron

Yea this is a problem for sure.

HesCalledDyer said:

hedonist said:

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

Excellent points here in bold! The only social media I use is instagram, because I enjoy photography. But I see parents posting their kids doing every little thing possible on their profiles. The ones that really get me are the parents who have specific hashtag nicknames for their children like they are some kind of object of possession instead of a person. You don't have to put #myperfectgentleman on every picture of little Johnny.
Don't even get me started with the stick figure families on backs of cars...
We want our kids to be safe, yet we advertise where they are and what they're doing, what clubs they're in or sports they play, etc 'round the clock.

What's wrong with stick figure families on cars? I am not a fan of them either but I don't see how this relates to being problematic for a child's upbringing.

HesCalledDyer

Ribbertron said:

Yea this is a problem for sure.

HesCalledDyer said:

hedonist said:

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

Excellent points here in bold! The only social media I use is instagram, because I enjoy photography. But I see parents posting their kids doing every little thing possible on their profiles. The ones that really get me are the parents who have specific hashtag nicknames for their children like they are some kind of object of possession instead of a person. You don't have to put #myperfectgentleman on every picture of little Johnny.
Don't even get me started with the stick figure families on backs of cars...
We want our kids to be safe, yet we advertise where they are and what they're doing, what clubs they're in or sports they play, etc 'round the clock.

What's wrong with stick figure families on cars? I am not a fan of them either but I don't see how this relates to being problematic for a child's upbringing.

A potential molester/abuser now knows the person driving the vehicle has children, knows how many kids there are, and whether they're boys or girls, and possibly what sports they play or club they're in (I've seen many sets that have little footballs or soccer balls or megaphones next to the child's sticker). The criminal performs surveillance on the vehicle to learn the patterns of where and when the parent is taking the kids, looking for weak spots and opportunities to kidnap/molest/etc.
That's not to say a criminal wouldn't do that anyway for a vehicle without the stickers and I'm not trying to victim blame here but, if I had kids, I think I'd keep my vanity in check for the sake of protecting my children that little extra bit.

PJ_Soul

Empty Glass said:

AET joke time....

Rob is a millenial......of the 1900's




I'll see myself out

PJ_Soul

Ribbertron said:

Yea this is a problem for sure.

HesCalledDyer said:

hedonist said:

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

Excellent points here in bold! The only social media I use is instagram, because I enjoy photography. But I see parents posting their kids doing every little thing possible on their profiles. The ones that really get me are the parents who have specific hashtag nicknames for their children like they are some kind of object of possession instead of a person. You don't have to put #myperfectgentleman on every picture of little Johnny.
Don't even get me started with the stick figure families on backs of cars...
We want our kids to be safe, yet we advertise where they are and what they're doing, what clubs they're in or sports they play, etc 'round the clock.

What's wrong with stick figure families on cars? I am not a fan of them either but I don't see how this relates to being problematic for a child's upbringing.

Nothing - those family sticker things on cars are simply a safety risk if you're worried about burglars. It's an advertisement for how many people are supposed to be in your house, which is, in turn, a key for figuring out when your house is empty.

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

Ribbertron said:

Yea this is a problem for sure.

HesCalledDyer said:

hedonist said:

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

Excellent points here in bold! The only social media I use is instagram, because I enjoy photography. But I see parents posting their kids doing every little thing possible on their profiles. The ones that really get me are the parents who have specific hashtag nicknames for their children like they are some kind of object of possession instead of a person. You don't have to put #myperfectgentleman on every picture of little Johnny.
Don't even get me started with the stick figure families on backs of cars...
We want our kids to be safe, yet we advertise where they are and what they're doing, what clubs they're in or sports they play, etc 'round the clock.

What's wrong with stick figure families on cars? I am not a fan of them either but I don't see how this relates to being problematic for a child's upbringing.

Nothing - those family sticker things on cars are simply a safety risk if you're worried about burglars. It's an advertisement for how many people are supposed to be in your house, which is, in turn, a key for figuring out when your house is empty.

See my reply above. It goes a bit deeper than burgling an empty house.

PJ_Soul

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ribbertron said:

Yea this is a problem for sure.

HesCalledDyer said:

hedonist said:

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

Excellent points here in bold! The only social media I use is instagram, because I enjoy photography. But I see parents posting their kids doing every little thing possible on their profiles. The ones that really get me are the parents who have specific hashtag nicknames for their children like they are some kind of object of possession instead of a person. You don't have to put #myperfectgentleman on every picture of little Johnny.
Don't even get me started with the stick figure families on backs of cars...
We want our kids to be safe, yet we advertise where they are and what they're doing, what clubs they're in or sports they play, etc 'round the clock.

What's wrong with stick figure families on cars? I am not a fan of them either but I don't see how this relates to being problematic for a child's upbringing.

Nothing - those family sticker things on cars are simply a safety risk if you're worried about burglars. It's an advertisement for how many people are supposed to be in your house, which is, in turn, a key for figuring out when your house is empty.

See my reply above. It goes a bit deeper than burgling an empty house.

I read it. I just didn't address it because I didn't agree that it's particularly reflective of the issue you're talking about. I was just saying what my opinion is about the family stickers.

Ribbertron

HesCalledDyer said:

Ribbertron said:

Yea this is a problem for sure.

HesCalledDyer said:

hedonist said:

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

Excellent points here in bold! The only social media I use is instagram, because I enjoy photography. But I see parents posting their kids doing every little thing possible on their profiles. The ones that really get me are the parents who have specific hashtag nicknames for their children like they are some kind of object of possession instead of a person. You don't have to put #myperfectgentleman on every picture of little Johnny.
Don't even get me started with the stick figure families on backs of cars...
We want our kids to be safe, yet we advertise where they are and what they're doing, what clubs they're in or sports they play, etc 'round the clock.

What's wrong with stick figure families on cars? I am not a fan of them either but I don't see how this relates to being problematic for a child's upbringing.

A potential molester/abuser now knows the person driving the vehicle has children, knows how many kids there are, and whether they're boys or girls, and possibly what sports they play or club they're in (I've seen many sets that have little footballs or soccer balls or megaphones next to the child's sticker). The criminal performs surveillance on the vehicle to learn the patterns of where and when the parent is taking the kids, looking for weak spots and opportunities to kidnap/molest/etc.
That's not to say a criminal wouldn't do that anyway for a vehicle without the stickers and I'm not trying to victim blame here but, if I had kids, I think I'd keep my vanity in check for the sake of protecting my children that little extra bit.

Excellent points by both, I never thought of it like that, but I am not a parent. Nor am I a burglar or molester.

If I were a parent, I would probably get one of those stick figure families that is zombie themed. Ain't no one gonna wanna molest a zombie child.

stuckinline

"A potential molester/abuser now knows the person driving the vehicle has children, knows how many kids there are, and whether they're boys or girls, and possibly what sports they play or club they're in (I've seen many sets that have little footballs or soccer balls or megaphones next to the child's sticker). The criminal performs surveillance on the vehicle to learn the patterns of where and when the parent is taking the kids, looking for weak spots and opportunities to kidnap/molest/etc."

I've seen football, soccer ball, dance and megaphone decals with the child's name on the cars/vans.

(Damn quote feature)

pjhawks

HBO Real Sports did a segment this month about 'everybody gets a trophy' - it was pretty good. i don't advocate violence but some of the supporters of this in youth sports could use a good ass kicking. we've taught a generation that participation and not achievement is cause for celebration. it's awful.

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ribbertron said:

Yea this is a problem for sure.

HesCalledDyer said:

hedonist said:

It bleeds into the workplace as well. My husband was telling me about a new-hire, a young man fresh out of college, who's already pushing for a promotion and raise - he doesn't even have the experience needed! Yet there's a sense of entitlement.

I also wonder about this young generation of children whose parents coo at everything they do, who have them pose for pics on social media, who seem to be self-aware and sexualized WAY so early.

Perhaps over- / unnecessarily medicating for "normal" experiences and times of life plays a part as well...?

Excellent points here in bold! The only social media I use is instagram, because I enjoy photography. But I see parents posting their kids doing every little thing possible on their profiles. The ones that really get me are the parents who have specific hashtag nicknames for their children like they are some kind of object of possession instead of a person. You don't have to put #myperfectgentleman on every picture of little Johnny.
Don't even get me started with the stick figure families on backs of cars...
We want our kids to be safe, yet we advertise where they are and what they're doing, what clubs they're in or sports they play, etc 'round the clock.

What's wrong with stick figure families on cars? I am not a fan of them either but I don't see how this relates to being problematic for a child's upbringing.

Nothing - those family sticker things on cars are simply a safety risk if you're worried about burglars. It's an advertisement for how many people are supposed to be in your house, which is, in turn, a key for figuring out when your house is empty.

See my reply above. It goes a bit deeper than burgling an empty house.

I read it. I just didn't address it because I didn't agree that it's particularly reflective of the issue you're talking about. I was just saying what my opinion is about the family stickers.

Gotcha. What makes it reflective to the topic, in my opinion, is that it is a form of vanity being expressed by the parents. "I'm gonna tell the world what my family looks like by putting stickers on my car." As if anyone cares that some stranger's family consists of two adults, a son, two daughters, a dog, & a cat and that you're all Penn State fans.
So, the vanity is starting with parents. The whole "look at me, look at us, were important" attitude. And that is what the kids grow up around. Constantly needing & demanding the attention be on them. Granted, there are many other facets in which that same attitude is instilled in our kids. This was just one example. And yeah, I guess my point above about kidnappers is more of a side effect of that, but those stickers are a prime example of the "me me me" culture of this generation.

ldent42

InHiding80 said:

ldent42 said:

InHiding80 said:

At least Xers had taste in music and wanted their rock to actually "ROCK" but today this generation wants everything stripped of edge and we get Pat Boone definitions of "rock" no thanks to Maroon 5, One Republic and Imagine Dragons ffs. They want everything Disneyfied now. Bella from Twilight is now considered a feminist icon for today, goddamnit. I'm not for straight up extreme feminazi-ism since I'm a straight guy but today's Kartrashian and 50 Shades loving girls have no self respect at all and it sickens me.

Whoever told you that Bella from Twilight is a feminist icon was fucking with you. There could be 300 more waves before they reach a point where the classic damsel in distress is a feminist icon.

Also, youse sound like a bunch of old people complaining about the youths.

And you sound like a millennial ignoramus. I've felt this way for 16 years since I gradated high school ffs. But keep telling yourself that it's hyperbolic when it's the actual harsh truth I'm speaking if it helps you sleep at night.

John Lennon said it best. The more real you get, the more fake the world and those around you are.

LOL
If you "gradated" HS 16 years ago then congrats you're about 5 years older than this millennial ignoramus.

It's worthing mentioning, in case for some reason anyone else in here didn't get it, I wasn't disagreeing with the opinions in this thread. I was laughing at the fact that it's a whole thread dedicated to "These kids these days!"

I don't gotta disagree with something to laugh at it.