Scumbag US Dentist Poaches Awesome Lion

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brianlux said:

R.I.P. Cecil.

What a travesty. I do not envy this man's massively bad karma.

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MayDay10 said:

I just looked it up and there were well over 100K to close some loophole in South Carolina. It also doesn't help that this occurred in 'gun country'.


This game to pass judgement on people because they are bothered by a story like this.... but not bothered (that you know of) by story _________ is extremely lame by the way.

No, it's not lame. What's lame is people getting this bothered by the killing of an animal more than they would if this was a human. Plus the hypocrisy of violence for violence I've been seeing.

If you took the emotional side of it out, one could say "Well, at least humans are not endangered (yet) the way lions are." We don't (at least most) don't think that way.

But seriously, that to me is a big part of the point- that a human, purely for his own warped sense of pleasure, would kill this beautiful and endangered animal. And on a purely biological level, it would be healthier for fewer lion to be shot and more human to be eaten by lions. I can think of one dentist who who do well to at least be a sacrificial offering that way.

To that I will reply that we are on top of the food chain. Of course we are not endangered.

davidtrios

And where is that same out rage right here in this country over planned parent hood doing the same thing with babies? Defenseless babies, they kill them like shooting fish in a barrel and then sell the body parts- don't care that much about the lion in Africa actually, there's worse things going on right here in USA - a disgrace! Talk about making God angry!!!!!

hedonist

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I don't know what the laws are concerning hunting these animals. It's obviously legal in Zimbabwe. Is there any evidence that he killed this lion on protected grounds? Is "luring" the same as a deer Hunter putting out corn during deer season? Or was he just saying "come here kitty kitty?"

What evidence is there that he broke the law? I know the guides were in some trouble.

Last-12, I believe it's legal in parts of Zimbabwe (and the lure was more than cooing).

But what about basic morality, ethics? I guess I just don't get it and likely never will.

Wound the animal, have it hurting, bleeding out for a day and a half, then shoot it, skin it, cut its head off, celebrate.

For what purpose?

RKCNDY

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There are over 100,000 signatures on on a petition to extradite this guy for killing a lion. Yet when 20 plus 7 and 8 year old children are murdered, 200 people won't sign a petition for congress to pass gun control laws. Sickening.

Actually here in my state, there was a bill that recently passed "closing the gun show loophole". Basically you didn't need a background check to buy a gun online or at a show, now you do-we have a 3 day waiting period for buying guns.

On the national level, there are many many many states that support the NRA, so that's why you aren't going to get more gun control that way.

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davidtrios said:

And where is that same out rage right here in this country over planned parent hood doing the same thing with babies? Defenseless babies, they kill them like shooting fish in a barrel and then sell the body parts- don't care that much about the lion in Africa actually, there's worse things going on right here in USA - a disgrace! Talk about making God angry!!!!!

Planned parenthood is a wonderful program. In no way shape or form does it need to go anywhere. Thank whatever God you pray to for this place.

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hedonist said:

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I don't know what the laws are concerning hunting these animals. It's obviously legal in Zimbabwe. Is there any evidence that he killed this lion on protected grounds? Is "luring" the same as a deer Hunter putting out corn during deer season? Or was he just saying "come here kitty kitty?"

What evidence is there that he broke the law? I know the guides were in some trouble.

Last-12, I believe it's legal in parts of Zimbabwe (and the lure was more than cooing).

But what about basic morality, ethics? I guess I just don't get it and likely never will.

Wound the animal, have it hurting, bleeding out for a day and a half, then shoot it, skin it, cut its head off, celebrate.

For what purpose?

Being morally wrong and having bad ethics won't get this guy extradited. Did he do something illegal?

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RKCNDY said:

Last-12-Exit said:

There are over 100,000 signatures on on a petition to extradite this guy for killing a lion. Yet when 20 plus 7 and 8 year old children are murdered, 200 people won't sign a petition for congress to pass gun control laws. Sickening.

Actually here in my state, there was a bill that recently passed "closing the gun show loophole". Basically you didn't need a background check to buy a gun online or at a show, now you do-we have a 3 day waiting period for buying guns.

On the national level, there are many many many states that support the NRA, so that's why you aren't going to get more gun control that way.

I wish that would happen in SC

JK_Livin

davidtrios said:

And where is that same out rage right here in this country over planned parent hood doing the same thing with babies? Defenseless babies, they kill them like shooting fish in a barrel and then sell the body parts- don't care that much about the lion in Africa actually, there's worse things going on right here in USA - a disgrace! Talk about making God angry!!!!!

Religion has nothing to do with this or anything else.

chadwick

animals are innocent & can't truly defend themselves against arrows & bullets. a shit ton of humans are many things quite unpleasant. smoking a lion for shits & giggles, removing its head & hide to grow one's weiner a bit & getting a puffy chest around his brandy glass holdin drinkin buddies w/ their high dollar cigars being lit & bunk ass personalities while wedging their noses up walter's ass... life is good being a piece of shit. just ask idiots like the little clown dentist & his pals.

truth is life is catching up with the sick freak walter. i see difficult times ahead for walt

chadwick

hanging a marlin on the wall is stupid as shit

RKCNDY

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RKCNDY said:

Last-12-Exit said:

There are over 100,000 signatures on on a petition to extradite this guy for killing a lion. Yet when 20 plus 7 and 8 year old children are murdered, 200 people won't sign a petition for congress to pass gun control laws. Sickening.

Actually here in my state, there was a bill that recently passed "closing the gun show loophole". Basically you didn't need a background check to buy a gun online or at a show, now you do-we have a 3 day waiting period for buying guns.

On the national level, there are many many many states that support the NRA, so that's why you aren't going to get more gun control that way.

I wish that would happen in SC

I can't say if it has helped...right after it passed, a kid took his dad's gun to school, shot and killed 4 of his friends, killed himself too. Only his cousin survived.

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RKCNDY said:

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RKCNDY said:

Last-12-Exit said:

There are over 100,000 signatures on on a petition to extradite this guy for killing a lion. Yet when 20 plus 7 and 8 year old children are murdered, 200 people won't sign a petition for congress to pass gun control laws. Sickening.

Actually here in my state, there was a bill that recently passed "closing the gun show loophole". Basically you didn't need a background check to buy a gun online or at a show, now you do-we have a 3 day waiting period for buying guns.

On the national level, there are many many many states that support the NRA, so that's why you aren't going to get more gun control that way.

I wish that would happen in SC

I can't say if it has helped...right after it passed, a kid took his dad's gun to school, shot and killed 4 of his friends, killed himself too. Only his cousin survived.

Horrific story. In fact, it's 100x worse than what the dentist did. And I never heard about it. I watch and read a lot of news. I can't remember this. Something is wrong with that.

MayDay10

maybe because the world is often a terrible place with like 7 billion people on it?

chadwick

get betty white to catch walter

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/betty-white-on-cecil-the-lions-killer-you-dont-want-to-hear-the-things-i-want-to-do/ar-BBlgkt4?ocid=mailsignout

PJ_Soul

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

So I get up today and read a story about a guy who landed a 1300lb. Marlin, off the coast of Hawaii. I think it was Hawaii. Anyway, granted Marlins are not an endangered species, how does everyone feel about this? They showed the Marlin on the back of a pickup truck, dying, or dead. Pretty sure this fish is going to end up on a wall, in this guys house.

How do you feel about this?
No issues with this?
Big issues with this?

And just so everyone knows, I think the dentist is a piece of fucking garbage.

The endangered species thing is a pretty huge factor, so I don't really find the two all that comparable. Also, as far as I know, Marlins don't have complex social hierarchies that are destroyed when one is caught, so again, the impact isn't really comparable.
That said, I don't support killing any animal for a trophy. Not fish, not butterflies. It's disgusting to kill for a trophy or as a form of entertainment.

PJ_Soul

JK_Livin said:

davidtrios said:

And where is that same out rage right here in this country over planned parent hood doing the same thing with babies? Defenseless babies, they kill them like shooting fish in a barrel and then sell the body parts- don't care that much about the lion in Africa actually, there's worse things going on right here in USA - a disgrace! Talk about making God angry!!!!!

Religion has nothing to do with this or anything else.

And it doesn't have to do with fetuses that have no consciousness or self-awareness either, and last I heard, lions aren't inside the bodies of women.

RKCNDY

Last-12-Exit said:

Horrific story. In fact, it's 100x worse than what the dentist did. And I never heard about it. I watch and read a lot of news. I can't remember this. Something is wrong with that.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/washington-high-school-shooting-suspect-identified/story?id=26432567

RKCNDY

PJ_Soul said:

JK_Livin said:

davidtrios said:

And where is that same out rage right here in this country over planned parent hood doing the same thing with babies? Defenseless babies, they kill them like shooting fish in a barrel and then sell the body parts- don't care that much about the lion in Africa actually, there's worse things going on right here in USA - a disgrace! Talk about making God angry!!!!!

Religion has nothing to do with this or anything else.

And it doesn't have to do with fetuses that have no consciousness or self-awareness either, and last I heard, lions aren't inside the bodies of women.

I agree...you cannot compare these two.

brianlux

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brianlux said:

R.I.P. Cecil.

What a travesty. I do not envy this man's massively bad karma.

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MayDay10 said:

I just looked it up and there were well over 100K to close some loophole in South Carolina. It also doesn't help that this occurred in 'gun country'.


This game to pass judgement on people because they are bothered by a story like this.... but not bothered (that you know of) by story _________ is extremely lame by the way.

No, it's not lame. What's lame is people getting this bothered by the killing of an animal more than they would if this was a human. Plus the hypocrisy of violence for violence I've been seeing.

If you took the emotional side of it out, one could say "Well, at least humans are not endangered (yet) the way lions are." We don't (at least most) don't think that way.

But seriously, that to me is a big part of the point- that a human, purely for his own warped sense of pleasure, would kill this beautiful and endangered animal. And on a purely biological level, it would be healthier for fewer lion to be shot and more human to be eaten by lions. I can think of one dentist who who do well to at least be a sacrificial offering that way.

To that I will reply that we are on top of the food chain. Of course we are not endangered.

We certainly are not on any endangered species list but I could argue strongly that we and all large mammals are endangered-- but that might be best left for another thread.

The latest on the death of Cecil is that there are now conflicting reports that his brother Jericho may or may not be dead also. Will try to follow up on this.

The article that follows also points out the fact that Cecil's death has a greater impact than not just the death of a single lion (as if that isn't bad enough), but the whole pride:

"Conservationists were eager to keep an eye on Jericho, as Cecil’s death left his entire pride in jeopardy. Typically a rival male lion will kill off another male’s cubs to insert its own bloodline into the pride. But in the month since Cecil’s death, Jericho has been seen defending the cubs. Without these two dominant males to defend the area, even more of Hwange’s lions are in jeopardy."

I would suggest that if the shooter is guilty of a crime, he is guilty of both illegal hunting and endangerment of a lion pride and should be harshly charged as such. We'll see how that goes. Here's the link to the aforementioned article:

http://news.yahoo.com/brother-cecil-lion-shot-killed-leaving-cubs-defenseless-195534856.html

PJfanwillneverleave1

Here he is in another pic.
I know there are many other pics like this of big game hunters.
I just don't get it?
The fucking smiles
Another reason to state there are two types of humans.