Politcal correctness run amuck

Godfather.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/07/13/satirical-petition-calls-for-cracker-barrel-to-change-its-racist-name/?intcmp=features

HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHA IT WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN !!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!


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Gern Blansten

I'm surprised they reported it as satire.

brianlux

Too bad really because this kind of thing detracts from legitimate protests over names like "Redskins" or "Indians" etc. which are not politically correct issues but rather issues of real racism. But I suppose I spoil the joke, huh?

Godfather.

brianlux said:

Too bad really because this kind of thing detracts from legitimate protests over names like "Redskins" or "Indians" etc. which are not politically correct issues but rather issues of real racism. But I suppose I spoil the joke, huh?

the whole country is having to walk on egg shells over stuff like flags and team names and a whole assorted pile of other goodies and this just sumes it up with some humor.

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rr165892

Brian,I agree the Redskins should re market(and capitalize) on a name change,But taking the name Indians by itself isn't bad,although arguments over there mascot has validity.

I really have no problem with Chiefs,Tribe,Warriors,Indians,Seminoles,etc.What is wrong with those names ? Nothing.No slurs at all.
Shit Notre Dame and The Fighting Irish is way worse and nobody is complaining.

Gern Blansten

Godfather. said:

brianlux said:

Too bad really because this kind of thing detracts from legitimate protests over names like "Redskins" or "Indians" etc. which are not politically correct issues but rather issues of real racism. But I suppose I spoil the joke, huh?

the whole country is having to walk on egg shells over stuff like flags and team names and a whole assorted pile of other goodies and this just sumes it up with some humor.

Godfather.

That's the Faux News perspective. In reality no one is walking on egg shells . It's kind of hard to argue about the confederate flag issue when the teabagger governor of SC was adamantly in favor of removing the flag.

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Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

brianlux said:

Too bad really because this kind of thing detracts from legitimate protests over names like "Redskins" or "Indians" etc. which are not politically correct issues but rather issues of real racism. But I suppose I spoil the joke, huh?

the whole country is having to walk on egg shells over stuff like flags and team names and a whole assorted pile of other goodies and this just sumes it up with some humor.

Godfather.

That's the Faux News perspective. In reality no one is walking on egg shells . It's kind of hard to argue about the confederate flag issue when the teabagger governor of SC was adamantly in favor of removing the flag.

this stuff has been in the news more than in any other time in history that I can recall and personally I think it's just a bunch of non-sence from a all of this countries whinners..but that's just my opinion.

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Last-12-Exit

brianlux said:

Too bad really because this kind of thing detracts from legitimate protests over names like "Redskins" or "Indians" etc. which are not politically correct issues but rather issues of real racism. But I suppose I spoil the joke, huh?

I just don't think those names are racists. Especially not the Indians. Other than they aren't Indians. Is redskins like the n word of the native American community?

Gern Blansten

Last-12-Exit said:

brianlux said:

Too bad really because this kind of thing detracts from legitimate protests over names like "Redskins" or "Indians" etc. which are not politically correct issues but rather issues of real racism. But I suppose I spoil the joke, huh?

I just don't think those names are racists. Especially not the Indians. Other than they aren't Indians. Is redskins like the n word of the native American community?

Yeah "redskins" is really pretty insulting. It's really similar to naming a team the "Wetbacks"

It's a tough one...."Indians" doesn't really seem bad but when you put it in perspective it does seem to relate to the majority (white people) expressing some dominance over people that our ancestors have conquered/murdered, etc.

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit said:

brianlux said:

Too bad really because this kind of thing detracts from legitimate protests over names like "Redskins" or "Indians" etc. which are not politically correct issues but rather issues of real racism. But I suppose I spoil the joke, huh?

I just don't think those names are racists. Especially not the Indians. Other than they aren't Indians. Is redskins like the n word of the native American community?

well ya gotta think that who ever named these teams didn't use those name because the native indians were or a weaklings, I would think because of thier toughness and willing to fight that they are admired just like the fighting irish or the sdsu aztec's, I can't think of any team that was named after a group of cowards.

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mickeyrat

The cowboys were.

brianlux

rr165892 said:

Brian,I agree the Redskins should re market(and capitalize) on a name change,But taking the name Indians by itself isn't bad,although arguments over there mascot has validity.

I really have no problem with Chiefs,Tribe,Warriors,Indians,Seminoles,etc.What is wrong with those names ? Nothing.No slurs at all.
Shit Notre Dame and The Fighting Irish is way worse and nobody is complaining.

Only problem is, rr, most Indians would vehemently disagree with you.

"In general, NCAI strongly opposes the use of derogatory Native sports mascots. However, in the case where mascots refer to a particular Native nation or nations, NCAI respects the right of individual tribal nations to work with universities and athletic programs to decide how to protect and celebrate their respective tribal heritage.

Indian mascots and stereotypes present a misleading image of Indian people and feed the historic myths that have been used to whitewash a history of oppression.Despite decades of work to eliminate the use of discrimination and derogatory images in American sports, the practice has not gone away. "

http://www.ncai.org/policy-issues/community-and-culture/anti-defamation-mascots

Bentleyspop

Without even opening the thread I knew it was a Godfather production

brianlux

Bentleyspop said:

Without even opening the thread I knew it was a Godfather production

And brought to you by...

Oh-So-Faux News ®.

Sorry, GF, couldn't resist.

FoxyRedLa

This cracker barrel thing I've never really gave it any thought.

muskydan

Thanks for the laugh GF. So fucking true. As always, different rules apply for others.

Godfather.

a little comody in this up tight world of confusion is a good thing LOL!!!!!

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mickeyrat said:

The cowboys were.

o.k I'll bite.....why ?

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riotgrl

I always felt that political correctness was really a way to express respect for people that are different than I am. Nothing wrong with having empathy for other peoples' feelings about an issue even if I can't understand the depth of their feelings about the matter.

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riotgrl said:

I always felt that political correctness was really a way to express respect for people that are different than I am. Nothing wrong with having empathy for other peoples' feelings about an issue even if I can't understand the depth of their feelings about the matter.

that's a good honest way to look at things.
to me PC is always one sided, one group emposing thier views on another but that is also a never ending circle on anybodys side uaslly.

Godfather.

riotgrl

Godfather. said:

riotgrl said:

I always felt that political correctness was really a way to express respect for people that are different than I am. Nothing wrong with having empathy for other peoples' feelings about an issue even if I can't understand the depth of their feelings about the matter.

that's a good honest way to look at things.
to me PC is always one sided, one group emposing thier views on another but that is also a never ending circle on anybodys side uaslly.

Godfather.

I understand that feeling. When I take the long view of history then it seems like it has been from the perspective (usually, not always) of white men. It kind of negates the contributions and feelings of other groups. I am definitely speaking from the perspective of a woman when I say that women have made history and contributed greatly but are often marginalized when we study/remember history. So if we have a women's history month then at least there is a beginning of some acknowledgment of these contributions. I often hear the comment from my students "why isn't there a white history month?" Why? Because every single day that I teach US history, it is primarily from the perspective of whites. It can be disheartening to spend every day hearing things from another person's perspective without any acknowledgment of the contributions of other groups. I think when that evens out then we will see less of what you are describing.

Godfather.

riotgrl said:

Godfather. said:

riotgrl said:

I always felt that political correctness was really a way to express respect for people that are different than I am. Nothing wrong with having empathy for other peoples' feelings about an issue even if I can't understand the depth of their feelings about the matter.

that's a good honest way to look at things.
to me PC is always one sided, one group emposing thier views on another but that is also a never ending circle on anybodys side uaslly.

Godfather.

I understand that feeling. When I take the long view of history then it seems like it has been from the perspective (usually, not always) of white men. It kind of negates the contributions and feelings of other groups. I am definitely speaking from the perspective of a woman when I say that women have made history and contributed greatly but are often marginalized when we study/remember history. So if we have a women's history month then at least there is a beginning of some acknowledgment of these contributions. I often hear the comment from my students "why isn't there a white history month?" Why? Because every single day that I teach US history, it is primarily from the perspective of whites. It can be disheartening to spend every day hearing things from another person's perspective without any acknowledgment of the contributions of other groups. I think when that evens out then we will see less of what you are describing.

you just helped to understand some things, thank you.

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callen

Bentleyspop said:

Without even opening the thread I knew it was a Godfather production

We are very fortunate to have Godfather hang with us.

hedonist

riotgrl, I do get your points and am with you.

Empathy aside (actually, empathy included!), I'm just not down with the over-stepping of common sense. Yes, things change and views evolve - thankfully so - but some of these PC actions and words strike me as egotistical, as bids for popularity, as not necessarily genuine.

Reminds me of Carlin's bit about words...the evolution of the term shell-shock comes to mind.

And callen, agreed!

HesCalledDyer

Apparently Orangemen was too offensive. Did anyone actually know what the fuck an Orangeman was to seriously be offended by it enough for the school to change the name?

riotgrl

hedonist said:

riotgrl, I do get your points and am with you.

Empathy aside (actually, empathy included!), I'm just not down with the over-stepping of common sense. Yes, things change and views evolve - thankfully so - but some of these PC actions and words strike me as egotistical, as bids for popularity, as not necessarily genuine.

Reminds me of Carlin's bit about words...the evolution of the term shell-shock comes to mind.

And callen, agreed!

Yes, agreed! We need more people willing to have the hard conversations (like here!) and find common ground.

Gern Blansten

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-petty-confederate-flag-reaction

Tom Petty seems to agree with the message

InHiding80

I'm a Rams fan so I don't give two shits anyways.

Last-12-Exit

I'm friends with a bear and he hates that chicago has been allowed to call their team the bears for 80 years. What pisses them off even more is the cubs. It offends their babies. That bear also knows a couple of horses and they plan on filing lawsuits against the Colts for defamation. Especially after that blow out loss to the patriots in the playoffs last year.

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Last-12-Exit said:

I'm friends with a bear and he hates that chicago has been allowed to call their team the bears for 80 years. What pisses them off even more is the cubs. It offends their babies. That bear also knows a couple of horses and they plan on filing lawsuits against the Colts for defamation. Especially after that blow out loss to the patriots in the playoffs last year.

HAHHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA nailed it !

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Dirtie_Frank

brianlux said:

Too bad really because this kind of thing detracts from legitimate protests over names like "Redskins" or "Indians" etc. which are not politically correct issues but rather issues of real racism. But I suppose I spoil the joke, huh?

Is Redskins racist to everyone?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-arizona-a-navajo-high-school-emerges-as-a-defender-of-the-washington-redskins/2014/10/26/dcfc773a-592b-11e4-8264-deed989ae9a2_story.html