The Donald for President

brianlux

Gern Blansten said:

rr165892 said:

He will revert right back to his moderate quite liberal on social issue stance once he has the nomination.Right now he is pandering to the far right bible thumpers and the rest of the rep fringe.He will be right down the middle during the general election.He will have to be to go against the Libs.

If he does that he will become exactly what he says he isn't

Exactly. And we don't need politicians who can't stand firm on what they believe. We won't see someone like Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein waffling and bullshitting like that.

rr165892

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

rr165892 said:

He will revert right back to his moderate quite liberal on social issue stance once he has the nomination.Right now he is pandering to the far right bible thumpers and the rest of the rep fringe.He will be right down the middle during the general election.He will have to be to go against the Libs.

If he does that he will become exactly what he says he isn't

Exactly. And we don't need politicians who can't stand firm on what they believe. We won't see someone like Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein waffling and bullshitting like that.

Bri you won't have to worry about that anyway.No way he gets the nomination.Just to radical for the gen pop.

brianlux

rr165892 said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

rr165892 said:

He will revert right back to his moderate quite liberal on social issue stance once he has the nomination.Right now he is pandering to the far right bible thumpers and the rest of the rep fringe.He will be right down the middle during the general election.He will have to be to go against the Libs.

If he does that he will become exactly what he says he isn't

Exactly. And we don't need politicians who can't stand firm on what they believe. We won't see someone like Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein waffling and bullshitting like that.

Bri you won't have to worry about that anyway.No way he gets the nomination.Just to radical for the gen pop.

I ain't givin' up yet on ol' Bern, rr!

PJfanwillneverleave1

This shit is funny.
America has an election this year that determines world power.
The only power being talked about is Trump.
Where are the fringe voters to shut Trump down? - a few on AMT doesn't count.
Trump is in a serious position to win the race.

Go Beavers

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

This shit is funny.
America has an election this year that determines world power.
The only power being talked about is Trump.
Where are the fringe voters to shut Trump down? - a few on AMT doesn't count.
Trump is in a serious position to win the race.

Fringe voters are who are supporting Trump. He has no chance of winning. I wrote in a different Trump thread about my theory that 20% of the American population are ignorant. This is the 20% that is supporting Trump:
18% think Obama is Muslim (aug 2010)
33% reject evolution (April 2013)
29% agree with the tea party (Sept 2010)
15% think Iraq was directly involved with 9/11 (2011).

rgambs

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

This shit is funny.
America has an election this year that determines world power.
The only power being talked about is Trump.
Where are the fringe voters to shut Trump down? - a few on AMT doesn't count.
Trump is in a serious position to win the race.

That isn't how it works.

Gern Blansten

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

This shit is funny.
America has an election this year that determines world power.
The only power being talked about is Trump.
Where are the fringe voters to shut Trump down? - a few on AMT doesn't count.
Trump is in a serious position to win the race.

This post really shows how far removed you are from reality.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Maybe your country needs a billionaire in power for awhile. It might show a different perspective of leadership.
He will have the power to do and not do what he wants, even with congress impeding him.
Why is it so hard for America to admit he is a very powerful and influential man.
Egomaniac? so what?

rgambs

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Maybe your country needs a billionaire in power for awhile. It might show a different perspective of leadership.
He will have the power to do and not do what he wants, even with congress impeding him.
Why is it so hard for America to admit he is a very powerful and influential man.
Egomaniac? so what?

Are you actually advocating for a dictatorship???
Wow.

PJ_Soul

bootlegger10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

Free said:

I don't tweet, but I saw online Cher's tweet from the other day.


Trump NOT Doing FOX Debate Cause Of MEGAN KELLY Some1 Get Him TOE SHOES, fkng PRIMA DONNA. HOW CAN HE FACE ISIS,HE CANT FACE A CHICK ON
TV.

An ignorant tweet. Trump has by far done more interviews and taken more questions than any candidate. Hilary barely ever fields a question from the media.

I guess you're missing the specific point the tweet is making? Has nothing to do with what you're talking about.

Well, she is saying he is scared to face a woman on TV. I am saying he is not scared to face her as evidenced by the countless interviews he does all over television to male and female newspersons. He just doesn't respect her and has no reason to go to the debate. IT worked out well for him and a lot of money will go to veterans associations that aren't too petty and politically biased to accept it.

But if I missed the point of the tweet let me know what it is.

It's just that Cher was making a specific point about Trump not being able to handle tough questions from a strong woman.... actually, on a certain level I agree with her. He definitely doesn't seem to handle being pissed off or challenged by a female. I do believe he's a huge sexist pig, and in the end that's what Cher is saying.

You read a lot into that tweet. He has been interviewed by woman all the time on television. Why would he be scared of Megan Kelly? His poll numbers went up after the last debate she moderated. She was the one who came out looking biased. Like any rational person would do he looked out at two alternatives:

1) Do a debate with a moderator who disrespects him along with not really needing the debate to boost poll numbers, or

2) Host his own event and raise money for charity. Some good will come out of the night.

I liked his decision making and the outcome. If Obama did this in 2008 and skipped a Fox News debate to do a charitable event, he would be hailed a man of the people. Some of you can't understand why he is winning and this is a perfect example. Who the hell has skipped a debate? Who does that? Well, if you want someone to come in and shake up Washington then he might be someone who has the guts to do that. Maybe he is a good negotiator and has a talent for coming up with out of the box ideas that could help. You all actually believe he wants to deport all illegals and not allow Muslims in this country. That is the funny thing in this.

Because she challenged him and ruffled his feathers more than other women in the media have and he can't handle it. That is the point. The fact that he has spoken to other women isn't relevant. I don't think I am reading a lot into that tweet at all. I think Cher's inference inferences pretty obvious (perhaps it is "woman speak", hahaha). I'm not saying I specifically agree with Cher, but just with the inference: Trump is a chauvinist pig.

Trump went on national tv and said he proposes shutting down immigration of Muslims for a period of time. He went on national tv and said he is deporting the illegal immigrants back to latin America. He went on national tv and said Mexico will pay to build a wall.

Yeah, this seems like the type of guy who is scared to answer a few questions from Megan Kelly. That is a ludicrous assertion.

I didn't say it wasn't a stupid tweet. I was just clarifying the point Cher is trying to make because it seemed you missed it (and maybe still are??).

Gern Blansten

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Maybe your country needs a billionaire in power for awhile. It might show a different perspective of leadership.
He will have the power to do and not do what he wants, even with congress impeding him.
Why is it so hard for America to admit he is a very powerful and influential man.
Egomaniac? so what?

We already have billionaires in power...that's the problem

PJ_Soul

Gern Blansten said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Maybe your country needs a billionaire in power for awhile. It might show a different perspective of leadership.
He will have the power to do and not do what he wants, even with congress impeding him.
Why is it so hard for America to admit he is a very powerful and influential man.
Egomaniac? so what?

We already have billionaires in power...that's the problem

Yeah really. No shit, eh? PJFan, Wtf?

InHiding80

rgambs said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Maybe your country needs a billionaire in power for awhile. It might show a different perspective of leadership.
He will have the power to do and not do what he wants, even with congress impeding him.
Why is it so hard for America to admit he is a very powerful and influential man.
Egomaniac? so what?

Are you actually advocating for a dictatorship???
Wow.

Fitting that the only one here to passive aggressively troll Bowie and Rickman obituary threads is so in love with Kim Jong Trump.

HughFreakingDillon

Trump sucks, but he is not afraid of anyone, Megan Kelly included. That was a power play to show the media he does what he wants without consequence. Nothing more.

rgambs

HughFreakingDillon said:

Trump sucks, but he is not afraid of anyone, Megan Kelly included. That was a power play to show the media he does what he wants without consequence. Nothing more.

I don't think so, Trump runs his mouth like a scaredy cat baby bully.
People without fear don't feel the need to belittle others like Chump does.

brianlux

Trump is the new Sarah Palin. Soon to be relegated to fodder for comedy impersonations on SNL... but not to be installed into the office of the presidency.

HughFreakingDillon

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Trump sucks, but he is not afraid of anyone, Megan Kelly included. That was a power play to show the media he does what he wants without consequence. Nothing more.

I don't think so, Trump runs his mouth like a scaredy cat baby bully.
People without fear don't feel the need to belittle others like Chump does.

I would normally agree with that, but I honestly believe that Trump does it because he truly believes the shit he says, not because he is insecure.

HesCalledDyer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWxMCLHXkVc

The USFL only lasted 3 years under Trump. Really want him to run the USA for 4?
(Hilariously fitting background tune at the beginning of the trailer!)

PJfanwillneverleave1

PJ_Soul said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Maybe your country needs a billionaire in power for awhile. It might show a different perspective of leadership.
He will have the power to do and not do what he wants, even with congress impeding him.
Why is it so hard for America to admit he is a very powerful and influential man.
Egomaniac? so what?

We already have billionaires in power...that's the problem

Yeah really. No shit, eh? PJFan, Wtf?

Even though he rubs even some of the most seasoned Republicans in congress the wrong way if he gets the nod and makes it to the whitehouse he would have a mostly Republic congress.
The very same congress that constantly impeded Obama just for the sake of doing it at times.
If trump is in power he will either veto the congress decisions if they are against him or he will have a fullhouse to trump every bill he sees fit.
He openly states what he will do if he wins and if he is unclear on other issues as to what he will do then I call that a normal part of campaign running - keep your opponents guessing while picking up votes with what you do promise along the way.
I know there are billionaires in power but when you are living in the %1 your words and actions have an immediate effect on the public.
So much so that maybe the strings that pull all of us are getting tired and have to come on the stage for awhile.

brianlux

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Maybe your country needs a billionaire in power for awhile. It might show a different perspective of leadership.
He will have the power to do and not do what he wants, even with congress impeding him.
Why is it so hard for America to admit he is a very powerful and influential man.
Egomaniac? so what?

We already have billionaires in power...that's the problem

Yeah really. No shit, eh? PJFan, Wtf?

Even though he rubs even some of the most seasoned Republicans in congress the wrong way if he gets the nod and makes it to the whitehouse he would have a mostly Republic congress.
The very same congress that constantly impeded Obama just for the sake of doing it at times.
If trump is in power he will either veto the congress decisions if they are against him or he will have a fullhouse to trump every bill he sees fit.
He openly states what he will do if he wins and if he is unclear on other issues as to what he will do then I call that a normal part of campaign running - keep your opponents guessing while picking up votes with what you do promise along the way.
I know there are billionaires in power but when you are living in the %1 your words and actions have an immediate effect on the public.
So much so that maybe the strings that pull all of us are getting tired and have to come on the stage for awhile.

Only it's easier to run a puppet show from behind the curtains than it is on stage. No doubt the puppet masters are well aware of that.