Silverchair's Daniel Johns 'Wanted To Sing Less Like Eddie Vedder'

pdalowsky

rival. said:

pdalowsky said:

rival. said:

pdalowsky said:

Silverchair were solid until Daniel moved the direction too far away from what made them loved.

this is an interesting statement coming from a pearl jam fan. what do you think of the people who criticize pearl jam for drastically changing their sound and direction after vitalogy? you would make the same arguments for pearl jam that would absolutely apply to silverchair. and i don't think they hated their early stuff as much as you make it seem. they were still playing their hits off frogstomp & freak show during the young modern tour.

van dyke parks said daniel johns was one of the most talented musicians he ever worked with. i don't think daniel went in the "complex song writing direction" to be bizarre or different. he did it because he could fuckin' do it.

early 20's and the guy wrote diorama? incredible. and give young modern another listen or two... many, many layers to every song on that album that you might not have scratched yet.

BTW you sound like a dedicated fan of Silverchair, I never picked up the across the night dvd set, was it worthy? Im toying with the idea if getting it at some point

very worthy. you should be able to grab a used copy off amazon for under $10.

there is also a documentary that aired in 2007 where the band revisits diorama and the band's mental state at that time. i do not believe it was ever released on dvd, but was aired on some australian TV channel. it is available on youtube and split into 6 or 7 parts (probably has a total run time of about an hour). i would check that out when you have the 60 minutes and interest.

Damn I got the title wrong .. Sorry - I meant the great divide set with powerfinger... I have the live at faraway set which is excellent

Only heard the first few EP tracks and I found it depressingly poor. Especially the lead single which was possibly the worst track I heard this year but if that's not indicative of the rest I'll go and dig it out I think

pdalowsky

Oh boy i tried that track - I think I need to stay away ... Can't get on with the new high pitch vocals or the Justin Timberlake style rnb theme at all. It's a shame as I want to like it .... Like if Stipe released a solo project - I'd really want to love it ....

mcgruff10

saw silver chair in 95/96 at rose land, nyc. and it was one of the best shows i ever saw! loved frog stomp but never went any further into their catalog....what would be the next album to get into?

HesCalledDyer

mcgruff10 said:

saw silver chair in 95/96 at rose land, nyc. and it was one of the best shows i ever saw! loved frog stomp but never went any further into their catalog....what would be the next album to get into?

Freak Show

FrankY59

mcgruff10 said:

saw silver chair in 95/96 at rose land, nyc. and it was one of the best shows i ever saw! loved frog stomp but never went any further into their catalog....what would be the next album to get into?

It's not a matter of what is their best album next but their whole catalog has become an evolution of a bands sound. By the time Neon Ballroom comes around you are amazed at the directional change, than you wonder how Diorama can shit on all their previous work. By the time you get to YM you wonder if this is even the same band (in a good way).

Last-12-Exit

I liked the song tomorrow. That cd was pretty good. But this band didn't have the chops to stick it out over the long haul in my opinion.

pljam

I can't hear Ed in Johns vocals at all but I certainly hear and believe he mirrored Kurt,absolute vocal clone

Champagne Breakfast

Frogstomp is now 20 years old! 20 years of Silverchair feature here...
http://www.alternativenation.net/reflections-of-a-sound-20-years-silverchair/

ledvedderman

I honestly can't get into "Frogstomp" or "Freak Show" as collective albums. There are some great songs, but they don't have that album feel that you get with Neon Ballroom or Diorama.
Emotion Sickness and Across The Night as back to back album openers is so impressive. Diorama is just brilliant. A truly brilliant album. To me, it's the "Pet Sounds" of my generation, except people here don't know shit about it. Luv Your Life would be the God Only Knows. It's just amazing. The vinyl pressings go for ridiculous money. I'd sell my soul to hear that album on a great stereo.
Young Modern is...meh. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't make it through half the record. The b-sides are pretty solid though. Same for Diorama. Asylum is one of the best b-sides of all time. It's so beautiful.
The new album is really growing on me. Fast. Dissolve is a hit in a perfect world. Great song.

rival.

ledvedderman said:

I honestly can't get into "Frogstomp" or "Freak Show" as collective albums. There are some great songs, but they don't have that album feel that you get with Neon Ballroom or Diorama.
Emotion Sickness and Across The Night as back to back album openers is so impressive. Diorama is just brilliant. A truly brilliant album. To me, it's the "Pet Sounds" of my generation, except people here don't know shit about it. Luv Your Life would be the God Only Knows. It's just amazing. The vinyl pressings go for ridiculous money. I'd sell my soul to hear that album on a great stereo.
Young Modern is...meh. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't make it through half the record. The b-sides are pretty solid though. Same for Diorama. Asylum is one of the best b-sides of all time. It's so beautiful.
The new album is really growing on me. Fast. Dissolve is a hit in a perfect world. Great song.

well said about diorama. the band rereleased all of their vinyls (except for young modern) within the past year. you can get a copy of diorama on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Diorama-SILVERCHAIR/dp/B00JEPT53A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433774944&sr=8-1&keywords=diorama+vinyl

ledvedderman

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOA!!! You're the man!

timmay44212

mcgruff10 said:

saw silver chair in 95/96 at rose land, nyc. and it was one of the best shows i ever saw! loved frog stomp but never went any further into their catalog....what would be the next album to get into?

Just bought Diorama on vinyl and it's very good. Never got into frogstomp but Silverchairs others are very good records.

timmay44212

ledvedderman said:

I honestly can't get into "Frogstomp" or "Freak Show" as collective albums. There are some great songs, but they don't have that album feel that you get with Neon Ballroom or Diorama.
Emotion Sickness and Across The Night as back to back album openers is so impressive. Diorama is just brilliant. A truly brilliant album. To me, it's the "Pet Sounds" of my generation, except people here don't know shit about it. Luv Your Life would be the God Only Knows. It's just amazing. The vinyl pressings go for ridiculous money. I'd sell my soul to hear that album on a great stereo.
Young Modern is...meh. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't make it through half the record. The b-sides are pretty solid though. Same for Diorama. Asylum is one of the best b-sides of all time. It's so beautiful.
The new album is really growing on me. Fast. Dissolve is a hit in a perfect world. Great song.

Check out the seller Collectors Choice on discogs, got my copy of Diorama reissued by Music On Vinyl for around $25

moretonbayfig

rival. said:

daniel johns is a monster. diorama and young modern are still two of my favorite albums -- never heard anything like them before and never heard anything like them since. those two albums still hold up incredibly well. wish silverchair was still making music, but i can see how daniel got a little burnt out on that whole scene being he wrote all but four or five silverchair songs (music and lyrics). lots of demand on him, and the last two albums were really pretty complex. took a long, long break and reinvented himself. respect!

that being said, i don't think he ever sounded like EV. i think it's just a blanket statement regarding that 90's sound and wanting to back away from it.

What Rival said *thumbs up*