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brianlux
brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
edited April 2015 in A Moving Train
What can I say? I just want to break things when I read stuff like this. What makes people this fucked up?

HEADS UP: This link contains what to me is a very disturbing photograph of a big "game" animal (giraffe) that has been shot.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/living/feat-hunter-giraffe-ricky-gervais/

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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,082
    stubid humans..
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    humanity can do without this twat
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    IF And I say if from what I read is true I dont really have too much of a problem with what she did. Thats IF the meat from this beautiful animal was used for the village to eat.

    Nows IF what she says about the animal is true. What I do have a problem is taking a smiling photo with the dead animal, as if she got pleasure from killing this animal. If you are killing the animal for food, then kill it and give it to the village and move on instead of an apparent promotion of herself.

    We on the outside of this, I can see why many would have issues with this so called hunt. However, when humans are hungry and theres an old bull giraffe thats there to help solve hunger then I can understand the killing of thus animal.

    I read somewhere Manny Pachaio's father killed the family dog when they had no food to feed the family. Manny left the family over it, I couldnt do that but I can understand why a human is capable of doing something like that.

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  • lazloblue
    lazloblue Houston Posts: 738
    I am not a fan of Hunting for Sport. And reading about this girl it looks as though that is her career.

    HOWEVER!!! in this case::::Quote: "They asked me if I would preserve this giraffe by providing all the locals with food and other means of survival. ... I chose to honor his life by providing others with his uses and I do not regret it for one second. (The locals) did not waste a single part of him. I am grateful to be a part of something so good."

    So, I am apt to believe this was Hunting for sustenance. Hard for us who pick up a couple of steaks at the grocery store already wrapped up in a cellophane package to understand. We don't live in Africa so we say what a beautiful animal. Some people might just think we are a bit barbaric the way we put cattle thru a shoot and pop a cap in their heads.

    I don't like her career choice, but when hunting is done for food, as a carnivore I'm ok with that.

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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    This just doesn't bother me. People hunt. You can't go anywhere without seeing a picture of someone posing with whatever they have just killed down here. I don't hunt, but I've grown up watching everyone around me hunt. Plus, if it did provide food for the locals, what's the problem? That is the advantage of being on top of the food chain.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    This just doesn't bother me. People hunt. You can't go anywhere without seeing a picture of someone posing with whatever they have just killed down here. I don't hunt, but I've grown up watching everyone around me hunt. Plus, if it did provide food for the locals, what's the problem? That is the advantage of being on top of the food chain.

    The difference is that her life is a pursuit to find the most magnificent animals she can, and kill them for fun...not just deer, rabbit, turkey, that number in the millions, rare and beautiful animals killed for pleasure... Pretty sickening.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    g under p said:

    IF And I say if from what I read is true I dont really have too much of a problem with what she did. Thats IF the meat from this beautiful animal was used for the village to eat.

    Nows IF what she says about the animal is true. What I do have a problem is taking a smiling photo with the dead animal, as if she got pleasure from killing this animal. If you are killing the animal for food, then kill it and give it to the village and move on instead of an apparent promotion of herself.

    We on the outside of this, I can see why many would have issues with this so called hunt. However, when humans are hungry and theres an old bull giraffe thats there to help solve hunger then I can understand the killing of thus animal.

    I read somewhere Manny Pachaio's father killed the family dog when they had no food to feed the family. Manny left the family over it, I couldnt do that but I can understand why a human is capable of doing something like that.

    Peace

    The bolded part, exactly. That's what gets me...reminds me of the other young woman who took a smiling photo next to a big cat she'd killed.

    Why is there even a need to take a damned picture?
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited April 2015
    Always find it funny some people think (including me) that squirrels are cute yet rats are nasty. Almost identical with exception one having bushy tail and a better PR department. (Yes I stole this if you've heard before). So as folks have pointed out, who are we to say anything if we eat streak or chicken as these are animals as well and likely had worse existence than this giraffe.

    Here's why, we don't relish the kill. I feel it's sick to be proud of how many types of animals you kill and with a fucking gun. The native Americans didn't relish killing buffalo, they understood need to do so yet honored the beast. I feel that if no one was looking and there was no way for the animal to be used and she could of snuck the head back to her lair she would of done so. Also justification of it being an older male and no longer a member of the in-crowd is shit thinking. Fuck Lux, GF and I should now be open game.

    FINALLY, but think most important, humans are fucking up this planet and to kill one of these creatures that represents our planets great creatures in one of our greatest habits with now devastated large mammal population and bragging about killing one of the few left shows how fucked up a species we are. Fucking virus with shoes. Yes stole this as well.
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  • lazloblue
    lazloblue Houston Posts: 738
    Totally agree! It should be a humbling experience to take down any creature. Posing for beauty shots is completely unnecessary and shows a lack of respect for Nature.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Si
    hedonist said:

    g under p said:

    IF And I say if from what I read is true I dont really have too much of a problem with what she did. Thats IF the meat from this beautiful animal was used for the village to eat.

    Nows IF what she says about the animal is true. What I do have a problem is taking a smiling photo with the dead animal, as if she got pleasure from killing this animal. If you are killing the animal for food, then kill it and give it to the village and move on instead of an apparent promotion of herself.

    We on the outside of this, I can see why many would have issues with this so called hunt. However, when humans are hungry and theres an old bull giraffe thats there to help solve hunger then I can understand the killing of thus animal.

    I read somewhere Manny Pachaio's father killed the family dog when they had no food to feed the family. Manny left the family over it, I couldnt do that but I can understand why a human is capable of doing something like that.

    Peace

    The bolded part, exactly. That's what gets me...reminds me of the other young woman who took a smiling photo next to a big cat she'd killed.

    Why is there even a need to take a damned picture?
    Simply for those people who only care about self promotion will gladly, smile even laugh with an animal they just hunted and killed.

    When I fish (rarely) I catch and release. I feel terrible if I caused the fish to bleed, I think many times what did I do wrong. I release them hoping they will be well, thats IF I can any.

    Maybe thats why I havent gone fishing in a couple years. I say this after being a vegetarian for 6 years just a few years ago.

    Peace
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    So because she posed with the dead animal, it's disrespecting it? It's about to be eaten. Do you think the giraffe gives a fuck at this point?

    I disagree that posing with your kill disrespects nature. It's not that big of a deal.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    So because she posed with the dead animal, it's disrespecting it? It's about to be eaten. Do you think the giraffe gives a fuck at this point?

    I disagree that posing with your kill disrespects nature. It's not that big of a deal.

    So when a soldier or a cop makes a necessary kill you are totally cool with them posing and smiling with the body for a photo?
    After all, they don't give a fuck at that point.

    It's all about attitude and cheesy photo ops show a shitty attitide.

    I also highly,doubt her version of the story, her hunting history shows she seeks big game thrills.... She didn't kill this beast for charity she did it for n kicks.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    rgambs said:

    So because she posed with the dead animal, it's disrespecting it? It's about to be eaten. Do you think the giraffe gives a fuck at this point?

    I disagree that posing with your kill disrespects nature. It's not that big of a deal.

    So when a soldier or a cop makes a necessary kill you are totally cool with them posing and smiling with the body for a photo?
    After all, they don't give a fuck at that point.

    It's all about attitude and cheesy photo ops show a shitty attitide.

    I also highly,doubt her version of the story, her hunting history shows she seeks big game thrills.... She didn't kill this beast for charity she did it for n kicks.
    I'm not going to compare a dead animal to a dead human. It's just an animal.

    And if her story turns out to be false, my opinion will change. I don't condone killing for sport.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    edited April 2015
    W

    So because she posed with the dead animal, it's disrespecting it? It's about to be eaten. Do you think the giraffe gives a fuck at this point?

    I disagree that posing with your kill disrespects nature. It's not that big of a deal.

    Whether disrespectful or not, it wasnt a necessity to take a smiling image. However, shes an apparent hunter so this must have been a thrill for her.

    Kill the animal and let the village be able to eat. The village probably doesnt have a way to refrigerate this meat which means it may have to eaten in one sitting.

    Peace
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    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Cheesy photo ops - that's it, gambo.

    Whose mind goes to that after taking the life of an animal, especially done with proclaimed altruism? In my mind, that act is in no way connected to levity.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    g under p said:

    W

    So because she posed with the dead animal, it's disrespecting it? It's about to be eaten. Do you think the giraffe gives a fuck at this point?

    I disagree that posing with your kill disrespects nature. It's not that big of a deal.

    Whether disrespectful or not, it wasnt a necessity to take a smiling image. However, shes an apparent hunter so this must have been a thrill for her.

    Kill the animal and let the village be able to eat. The village probably doesnt have a way to refrigerate this meat which means it may have to eaten in one sitting.

    Peace
    Not necessarily as long as they know how to dehydrate the meat. Jerky lasts a long time.
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,963
    edited April 2015
    I find it strange that people get so outraged when an animal is killed that isn't within our 'allowable' food chain. For example, where is the worldwide condemnation when pigs spend their entire life in a cage they barely fit. The suffering endured by the animals that are part of our food industry is far worse than any of these hunted animals.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    eddiec said:

    I find it strange that people get so outraged when an animal is killed that isn't within are 'allowable' food chain. For example, where is the worldwide condemnation when pigs spend their entire life in a cage they barely fit. The suffering endured by the animals that are part of our food industry is far worse than any of these hunted animals.

    EC I have to totally agree. I became a vegetarian after seeing the online films Food Inc and Earthlings. What our animals go through is far worse than those in Africa, the same goes to our animals we call kosher.

    Peace

    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Sorry guys, but this isn't about feeding the poor, it's this woman someone tweeting her photo like, "Aren't I cute lying here smiling next to this [beautiful] dead animal that I killed."

    I never really imagined we'd see so many here defending this woman.

    I'm really getting close to not renewing my membership here this year. Just not feeling like part of the club (or is it "team"?) these days.

    I'm sorry I posted this. Maybe it will get locked.

    Fuck it. I'm done here.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Going by the club / team remark...maybe you allowed some comments get under your skin more than seeing the other viewpoints? Not sure anyone has supported (as eloquently mentioned earlier) self-promotion.

    Hope you just need to cool down some, but I get the need for a break (or break-away).