Iran Deal, the reset.....

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,953
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Free_Beacon

    Nice place to get your BS, if you're looking to spread BS, that is. I'll give you credit for keeping on keeping on trying to scare us though. Just say NO.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Let's go to the Council on Foreign Relations then...

    http://blogs.cfr.org/abrams/2016/03/09/dangerous-illusions-about-iran/

    Not that it will matter on a site that loves the Supreme Leader.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    :lol:
    the CFR, standard bearers for all that is wrong with our western dominated capitalist world? much better.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,625
    BS44325 said:

    Let's go to the Council on Foreign Relations then...

    http://blogs.cfr.org/abrams/2016/03/09/dangerous-illusions-about-iran/

    Not that it will matter on a site that loves the Supreme Leader.

    Elliot Abrams is a neoconservative that was one of the intellectual authors of the Iraq war, deputy NSA for Bush and a member of the PNAC, which openly pushed for a war in Iraq to protect Israel going back to 1998. You might as well link to Wolfowitz or Rumsfeld. This is hawk opinion, not fact.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    And now to Al Jazeera... where the Arab league is labeling the Iranian arm in Lebanon a terrorist organization

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/arab-league-labels-hezbollah-terrorist-group-160311173735737.html

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,625
    BS44325 said:

    And now to Al Jazeera... where the Arab league is labeling the Iranian arm in Lebanon a terrorist organization

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/arab-league-labels-hezbollah-terrorist-group-160311173735737.html

    How is this news and how are you connecting it to Iran deal? Hezbollah, the militant Shia arm of the Lebanese government has been accused of this for years.

    Did you and do you support the Iraq War?

  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited March 2016
    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,625

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    Okay thanks. I didn't realize I was arguing with a neoconservative. I thought they had disappeared to the history books. . Like Whigs, Know Nothings and anti Free Masons.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,949
    mrussel1 said:

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    Okay thanks. I didn't realize I was arguing with a neoconservative. I thought they had disappeared to the history books. . Like Whigs, Know Nothings and anti Free Masons.
    Drowned Out, a neocon? :lol:

    Sorry guys... continue...
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    I think (hope) he meant BS, Brian :smile: mrussel and I werent arguing!
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,625

    I think (hope) he meant BS, Brian :smile: mrussel and I werent arguing!

    Correct. We were not.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    mrussel1 said:

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    Okay thanks. I didn't realize I was arguing with a neoconservative. I thought they had disappeared to the history books. . Like Whigs, Know Nothings and anti Free Masons.
    Not only that , but he, as a Candian, is perfectly fine with the U.S, sending our young men and woman in to harms way.

    Suit op BS and lead the charge over there.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,625
    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    Okay thanks. I didn't realize I was arguing with a neoconservative. I thought they had disappeared to the history books. . Like Whigs, Know Nothings and anti Free Masons.
    Not only that , but he, as a Candian, is perfectly fine with the U.S, sending our young men and woman in to harms way.

    Suit op BS and lead the charge over there.
    Our blood and treasure. .. even better.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited March 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    And now to Al Jazeera... where the Arab league is labeling the Iranian arm in Lebanon a terrorist organization

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/arab-league-labels-hezbollah-terrorist-group-160311173735737.html

    How is this news and how are you connecting it to Iran deal? Hezbollah, the militant Shia arm of the Lebanese government has been accused of this for years.

    Did you and do you support the Iraq War?

    Hezbollah is not the arm of the Lebanese Government...it's the arm of the Iranian government. There is no Lebanese government anymore as it has been surrendered to Iran. This is part of the larger picture of what is happening on the ground.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    And now you are discredited
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    Okay thanks. I didn't realize I was arguing with a neoconservative. I thought they had disappeared to the history books. . Like Whigs, Know Nothings and anti Free Masons.
    Not only that , but he, as a Candian, is perfectly fine with the U.S, sending our young men and woman in to harms way.

    Suit op BS and lead the charge over there.
    I want our troops involved but unfortunately my Prime Minister that your President and media glorifies has other plans.

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    And now you are discredited
    That is the same summation I would give. Perhaps you don't realize how biased you sound.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    And now you are discredited
    That is the same summation I would give. Perhaps you don't realize how biased you sound.
    Believe me I realize it. Other then my contributions everything sounds the same in here.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    Okay thanks. I didn't realize I was arguing with a neoconservative. I thought they had disappeared to the history books. . Like Whigs, Know Nothings and anti Free Masons.
    Not only that , but he, as a Candian, is perfectly fine with the U.S, sending our young men and woman in to harms way.

    Suit op BS and lead the charge over there.
    I want our troops involved but unfortunately my Prime Minister that your President and media glorifies has other plans.

    Man up and go on your own.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,625
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    And now to Al Jazeera... where the Arab league is labeling the Iranian arm in Lebanon a terrorist organization

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/arab-league-labels-hezbollah-terrorist-group-160311173735737.html

    How is this news and how are you connecting it to Iran deal? Hezbollah, the militant Shia arm of the Lebanese government has been accused of this for years.

    Did you and do you support the Iraq War?

    Hezbollah is not the arm of the Lebanese Government...it's the arm of the Iranian government. There is no Lebanese government anymore as it has been surrendered to Iran. This is part of the larger picture of what is happening on the ground.
    You're right, Hezbollah is connected to Iran, operating in Lebanon. But you're wrong (or rather over stated) on the comment that there is no Lebanese government. SA and Iran continue to fight proxy internal wars for influence of the government. In fact, as you probably know, SA is levying sanctions on them right now, but restricting travel, refusing to do business with Hezbollah related companies, etc. They are trying to increase the influence in Beirut. But they need to be careful and not wreck the economy, thereby creating another failed state.

    And none of this has anything to do with whether the recent ballistic missile test by Iran amounts to breaking the Nuke treaty.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    And now to Al Jazeera... where the Arab league is labeling the Iranian arm in Lebanon a terrorist organization

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/arab-league-labels-hezbollah-terrorist-group-160311173735737.html

    How is this news and how are you connecting it to Iran deal? Hezbollah, the militant Shia arm of the Lebanese government has been accused of this for years.

    Did you and do you support the Iraq War?

    Hezbollah is not the arm of the Lebanese Government...it's the arm of the Iranian government. There is no Lebanese government anymore as it has been surrendered to Iran. This is part of the larger picture of what is happening on the ground.
    You're right, Hezbollah is connected to Iran, operating in Lebanon. But you're wrong (or rather over stated) on the comment that there is no Lebanese government. SA and Iran continue to fight proxy internal wars for influence of the government. In fact, as you probably know, SA is levying sanctions on them right now, but restricting travel, refusing to do business with Hezbollah related companies, etc. They are trying to increase the influence in Beirut. But they need to be careful and not wreck the economy, thereby creating another failed state.

    And none of this has anything to do with whether the recent ballistic missile test by Iran amounts to breaking the Nuke treaty.
    Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states just pulled all their Lebanese funding. They recognize that Lebanon has become an Iranian client state. Their is a bigger Sunni/Shia picture here that many are failing to grasp.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,625
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    And now to Al Jazeera... where the Arab league is labeling the Iranian arm in Lebanon a terrorist organization

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/arab-league-labels-hezbollah-terrorist-group-160311173735737.html

    How is this news and how are you connecting it to Iran deal? Hezbollah, the militant Shia arm of the Lebanese government has been accused of this for years.

    Did you and do you support the Iraq War?

    Hezbollah is not the arm of the Lebanese Government...it's the arm of the Iranian government. There is no Lebanese government anymore as it has been surrendered to Iran. This is part of the larger picture of what is happening on the ground.
    You're right, Hezbollah is connected to Iran, operating in Lebanon. But you're wrong (or rather over stated) on the comment that there is no Lebanese government. SA and Iran continue to fight proxy internal wars for influence of the government. In fact, as you probably know, SA is levying sanctions on them right now, but restricting travel, refusing to do business with Hezbollah related companies, etc. They are trying to increase the influence in Beirut. But they need to be careful and not wreck the economy, thereby creating another failed state.

    And none of this has anything to do with whether the recent ballistic missile test by Iran amounts to breaking the Nuke treaty.
    Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states just pulled all their Lebanese funding. They recognize that Lebanon has become an Iranian client state. Their is a bigger Sunni/Shia picture here that many are failing to grasp.
    I know, that was my point. But the downside is that they could wreck the state with that strategy and create another power vacuum and failed state. I'm saying that is a dangerous game SA is playing.

    It still doesn't mean that Iran violated the JPOA.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,953
    Jeeze, buried on page 3. Guess Obama did something right? C'mon BS, set me straight with a blog link, please.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Lotta silence on Ben Rhodes and his interview with respect to the Iran deal...

    Guess we'll have to go to Fox for some info

    https://youtu.be/YZMrCh74zQI

    Josh Earnest can't deny the lies

    http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2016/05/09/watch-the-incredible-moment-when-josh-earnest-cant-deny-obama-admin-officials-lied-about-iran-deal-video/
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Criticizing the Iran deal is secondary to his main agenda - demonization of all Muslims in support of his eretz-Israel agenda.
    And I can tell you right now - he supports war against any Muslim country in the Middle East, no matter the cost.

    Okay thanks. I didn't realize I was arguing with a neoconservative. I thought they had disappeared to the history books. . Like Whigs, Know Nothings and anti Free Masons.
    Not only that , but he, as a Candian, is perfectly fine with the U.S, sending our young men and woman in to harms way.

    Suit op BS and lead the charge over there.
    I want our troops involved but unfortunately my Prime Minister that your President and media glorifies has other plans.

    Man up and go on your own.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    "Iran’s nuclear program will be under lock, key and camera 24 hours a day, 365 days a year," Rep. Don Beyer, D-Va., wrote in an op-ed supporting the deal.

    So ... is it under lock and key right now? Are we conducting 27/7/265 inspections? Are there any inspectors in Iran right now?

    And where the fuck is Hans Blix?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    Jason P said:

    "Iran’s nuclear program will be under lock, key and camera 24 hours a day, 365 days a year," Rep. Don Beyer, D-Va., wrote in an op-ed supporting the deal.

    So ... is it under lock and key right now? Are we conducting 27/7/265 inspections? Are there any inspectors in Iran right now?

    And where the fuck is Hans Blix?

    https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/focus/iran
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    It's been almost a year, did Iran "break out"?
    Do they have enough fissile material to build a nuclear warhead??
    Wasn't their breakout time months away when the deal shut down the majority of centrifuges?
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