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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/every-man-in-iran-village-executed-on-drugs-charges-death-penalty-capital-punishment-human-rights-a6898036.html
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    BS44325 said:

    HA..."reformists"

    Should we bomb them or evangelize them? If neither of those, then we should negotiate a deal with them, which we did.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Come to the conclusion humans need to hate. Need to have their tribe in battle with the other tribe.

    Must be learned though. Guess it starts young with pledge of allegiance and USA chant. Humans do make great trainable beings. Little more complicated than training a dog, but not much more.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    callen said:

    Come to the conclusion humans need to hate. Need to have their tribe in battle with the other tribe.

    Must be learned though. Guess it starts young with pledge of allegiance and USA chant. Humans do make great trainable beings. Little more complicated than training a dog, but not much more.

    You call me a dog well that's fair enough...but I've never pledged allegiance or done a USA chant...just old fashioned Canadian public school education. We tend to be big on human rights.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    HA..."reformists"

    Should we bomb them or evangelize them? If neither of those, then we should negotiate a deal with them, which we did.
    I didn't realize there were only three options. How could I be so obtuse?
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited February 2016
    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Come to the conclusion humans need to hate. Need to have their tribe in battle with the other tribe.

    Must be learned though. Guess it starts young with pledge of allegiance and USA chant. Humans do make great trainable beings. Little more complicated than training a dog, but not much more.

    You call me a dog well that's fair enough...but I've never pledged allegiance or done a USA chant...just old fashioned Canadian public school education. We tend to be big on human rights.
    Didn't call you a dog. Compared relative ease in training humans compared to training a dog. Setting levels of tranability along with how animal we really are.

    But tell me as I have your attention, do you really want peace? What's your solutions? And please dont volunteer my tax money to solve this.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Come to the conclusion humans need to hate. Need to have their tribe in battle with the other tribe.

    Must be learned though. Guess it starts young with pledge of allegiance and USA chant. Humans do make great trainable beings. Little more complicated than training a dog, but not much more.

    You call me a dog well that's fair enough...but I've never pledged allegiance or done a USA chant...just old fashioned Canadian public school education. We tend to be big on human rights.
    Didn't call you a dog. Compared relative ease in training humans compared to training a dog. Setting levels of tranability along with how animal we really are.

    But tell me as I have your attention, do you really want peace? What's your solutions? And please dont volunteer my tax money to solve this.
    You don't have my attention.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Come to the conclusion humans need to hate. Need to have their tribe in battle with the other tribe.

    Must be learned though. Guess it starts young with pledge of allegiance and USA chant. Humans do make great trainable beings. Little more complicated than training a dog, but not much more.

    You call me a dog well that's fair enough...but I've never pledged allegiance or done a USA chant...just old fashioned Canadian public school education. We tend to be big on human rights.
    Didn't call you a dog. Compared relative ease in training humans compared to training a dog. Setting levels of tranability along with how animal we really are.

    But tell me as I have your attention, do you really want peace? What's your solutions? And please dont volunteer my tax money to solve this.
    You don't have my attention.
    Oh contraire you replied. HA. May not have anything to counter but that's another thing.

    Go hate, know it feels good, but know it's you that ultimately pays the price.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Iran election: Reformists win all 30 Tehran seats

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35681250
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    edited February 2016
    So trump wants to sell Iran misses? Imagine if Obama said what trump said?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    HA..."reformists"

    Should we bomb them or evangelize them? If neither of those, then we should negotiate a deal with them, which we did.
    I didn't realize there were only three options. How could I be so obtuse?
    What do you propose?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    HA..."reformists"

    Should we bomb them or evangelize them? If neither of those, then we should negotiate a deal with them, which we did.
    I didn't realize there were only three options. How could I be so obtuse?
    What do you propose?
    I believe he has stated he is in favor of more ineffective sanctions.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,283
    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Come to the conclusion humans need to hate. Need to have their tribe in battle with the other tribe.

    Must be learned though. Guess it starts young with pledge of allegiance and USA chant. Humans do make great trainable beings. Little more complicated than training a dog, but not much more.

    You call me a dog well that's fair enough...but I've never pledged allegiance or done a USA chant...just old fashioned Canadian public school education. We tend to be big on human rights.
    Except where Palestinians are concerned it seems.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Come to the conclusion humans need to hate. Need to have their tribe in battle with the other tribe.

    Must be learned though. Guess it starts young with pledge of allegiance and USA chant. Humans do make great trainable beings. Little more complicated than training a dog, but not much more.

    You call me a dog well that's fair enough...but I've never pledged allegiance or done a USA chant...just old fashioned Canadian public school education. We tend to be big on human rights.
    Except where Palestinians are concerned it seems.
    No. We recognize that Hamas is murdering moderate Palestinians on a daily basis and we want that to stop. We believe once it stops a peace seeking Palestinian government might arise that could be negotiated with. Unfortunately too many of you are sympathetic to Islamists all in the name of resistance and hence maintain this horrific status quo. Sensible Canadians will unfortunately have to sit back and wait until you come to this realization yourself. There is nothing left for us or anyone else to do. It is on you.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    HA..."reformists"

    Should we bomb them or evangelize them? If neither of those, then we should negotiate a deal with them, which we did.
    I didn't realize there were only three options. How could I be so obtuse?
    What do you propose?
    I believe he has stated he is in favor of more ineffective sanctions.
    Yup. That's all. In favour of ineffectiveness only.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    HA..."reformists"

    Should we bomb them or evangelize them? If neither of those, then we should negotiate a deal with them, which we did.
    I didn't realize there were only three options. How could I be so obtuse?
    What do you propose?
    I believe he has stated he is in favor of more ineffective sanctions.
    Yup. That's all. In favour of ineffectiveness only.
    To be fair, the sanctions brought them to the negotiating table. The point of the sanctions was never 'regime change' so if anyone in the US thought that was the end game, it was somewhat naive. However, the international community was not going to allow continued sanctions when the Iranians were willing to disassemble the nuclear program. Russia and China would never have backed more sanctions.
    So, in my view, the sanctions did was that were designed to do, and then Kerry and co. effectively negotiated a long term solution WITH the kicker that sanctions go back into effect if they violate it. Russia and China signed on to that so they will have to support it.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    HA..."reformists"

    Should we bomb them or evangelize them? If neither of those, then we should negotiate a deal with them, which we did.
    I didn't realize there were only three options. How could I be so obtuse?
    What do you propose?
    I believe he has stated he is in favor of more ineffective sanctions.
    Yup. That's all. In favour of ineffectiveness only.
    To be fair, the sanctions brought them to the negotiating table. The point of the sanctions was never 'regime change' so if anyone in the US thought that was the end game, it was somewhat naive. However, the international community was not going to allow continued sanctions when the Iranians were willing to disassemble the nuclear program. Russia and China would never have backed more sanctions.
    So, in my view, the sanctions did was that were designed to do, and then Kerry and co. effectively negotiated a long term solution WITH the kicker that sanctions go back into effect if they violate it. Russia and China signed on to that so they will have to support it.
    agreed. the international community flat out refused any further sanctions. the choice for the US became either agree with them and implement sanctions again if terms are violated, or be a powerless lone wolf with no power to impose sanctions. i think we made the right choice.

    tom cotton will tell you otherwise, but he was paid at least one million bucks by israel to oppose any agreement at all.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,283
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Come to the conclusion humans need to hate. Need to have their tribe in battle with the other tribe.

    Must be learned though. Guess it starts young with pledge of allegiance and USA chant. Humans do make great trainable beings. Little more complicated than training a dog, but not much more.

    You call me a dog well that's fair enough...but I've never pledged allegiance or done a USA chant...just old fashioned Canadian public school education. We tend to be big on human rights.
    Except where Palestinians are concerned it seems.
    No. We recognize that Hamas is murdering moderate Palestinians on a daily basis and we want that to stop. We believe once it stops a peace seeking Palestinian government might arise that could be negotiated with. Unfortunately too many of you are sympathetic to Islamists all in the name of resistance and hence maintain this horrific status quo. Sensible Canadians will unfortunately have to sit back and wait until you come to this realization yourself. There is nothing left for us or anyone else to do. It is on you.
    Funny Hamas arent islamists.
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    BOMb the nuke sites and take their oil.

    They are bad actors and evil doers

    Damn be Iran leadership

    Freedom to their oppressed society!
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    usamamasan1 said:

    BOMb the nuke sites and take their oil.

    They are bad actors and evil doers

    Damn be Iran leadership

    Freedom to their oppressed society!

    Sigh... those that have learned nothing from Iraq. Pathetic.

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