Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt
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If you only saw my library.Halifax2TheMax said:
And Iraq is now the Disneyland of the Middle East? Is life for the average Iraqi better now or pre 2003?BS44325 said:
Sorry but the world you are describing is the post-withdrawal Iraq. Also I am pretty sure that pre-invasion Saddam's Iraq wasn't the disneyland of the middle east.Halifax2TheMax said:Your stable Iraq consisted of families who had lived side by side for generations killing each other because they were Shia or Sunni. Whole neighborhoods that were a mix of Shia, Sunni, Christians and Jews blew apart with everyone retreating to their religion's neighborhood. Death squads from both sides moved freely and acted with impunity. US trained Shia police forces checked roadblocks during the day and killed Sunnis at night. Further the country splintered into the Shia south, Kurdish north and Sunni middle or triangle. You might want to read up on your so called "stable Iraq." Spin, spin, spin and if I say it enough times it must be true.
And no, the Iraq I described was during your period of so called stable Iraq. Try reading some books written by American service members who served in pre-withdrawal Iraq. They went from a mission of killing the enemy to trying to prevent them from killing each other, slowly being sucked into a religious civil war. Read some books on the subject instead of partisan talking points issued by your favorite neocons who never had any real skin in the game.
Edit - sorry I forgot to answer your first question. Only a moron would think life for the average Iraqi now is better then it was pre-invasion. 2009 however is a whole different story. That being said had I know in 2003 that 6 years later a President would come to power who would take all the hard fought gains and completely flush them down the toilet...well then I too would have never supported the war.Post edited by BS44325 on0 -
Post some pictures. Show us your intellectual mind. Go ahead. I wonder if we've read the same books? I expect bill orielly's Killing Jesus to be on the shelf somewhere though.BS44325 said:
If you only saw my library.Halifax2TheMax said:
And Iraq is now the Disneyland of the Middle East? Is life for the average Iraqi better now or pre 2003?BS44325 said:
Sorry but the world you are describing is the post-withdrawal Iraq. Also I am pretty sure that pre-invasion Saddam's Iraq wasn't the disneyland of the middle east.Halifax2TheMax said:Your stable Iraq consisted of families who had lived side by side for generations killing each other because they were Shia or Sunni. Whole neighborhoods that were a mix of Shia, Sunni, Christians and Jews blew apart with everyone retreating to their religion's neighborhood. Death squads from both sides moved freely and acted with impunity. US trained Shia police forces checked roadblocks during the day and killed Sunnis at night. Further the country splintered into the Shia south, Kurdish north and Sunni middle or triangle. You might want to read up on your so called "stable Iraq." Spin, spin, spin and if I say it enough times it must be true.
And no, the Iraq I described was during your period of so called stable Iraq. Try reading some books written by American service members who served in pre-withdrawal Iraq. They went from a mission of killing the enemy to trying to prevent them from killing each other, slowly being sucked into a religious civil war. Read some books on the subject instead of partisan talking points issued by your favorite neocons who never had any real skin in the game.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Don't own that one and not sure why you would expect it? I guess you don't read my posts. Never commented on the war on christianity in my life. I am socially liberal and live a pretty darn secural life. That being said religion doesn't offend me.Halifax2TheMax said:
Post some pictures. Show us your intellectual mind. Go ahead. I wonder if we've read the same books? I expect bill orielly's Killing Jesus to be on the shelf somewhere though.BS44325 said:
If you only saw my library.Halifax2TheMax said:
And Iraq is now the Disneyland of the Middle East? Is life for the average Iraqi better now or pre 2003?BS44325 said:
Sorry but the world you are describing is the post-withdrawal Iraq. Also I am pretty sure that pre-invasion Saddam's Iraq wasn't the disneyland of the middle east.Halifax2TheMax said:Your stable Iraq consisted of families who had lived side by side for generations killing each other because they were Shia or Sunni. Whole neighborhoods that were a mix of Shia, Sunni, Christians and Jews blew apart with everyone retreating to their religion's neighborhood. Death squads from both sides moved freely and acted with impunity. US trained Shia police forces checked roadblocks during the day and killed Sunnis at night. Further the country splintered into the Shia south, Kurdish north and Sunni middle or triangle. You might want to read up on your so called "stable Iraq." Spin, spin, spin and if I say it enough times it must be true.
And no, the Iraq I described was during your period of so called stable Iraq. Try reading some books written by American service members who served in pre-withdrawal Iraq. They went from a mission of killing the enemy to trying to prevent them from killing each other, slowly being sucked into a religious civil war. Read some books on the subject instead of partisan talking points issued by your favorite neocons who never had any real skin in the game.
Edit - I don't even think I've ever even seen a full episode of O'Reilly Factor on tv?Post edited by BS44325 on0 -
So why invade? Do you really believe the average Muslim, Arab, Persian, Houthi, Saudi, Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian or any member of any of the other sects, religions, countries, etc. etc. etc. desires to live under a western style democracy? You believe that?BS44325 said:
If you only saw my library.Halifax2TheMax said:
And Iraq is now the Disneyland of the Middle East? Is life for the average Iraqi better now or pre 2003?BS44325 said:
Sorry but the world you are describing is the post-withdrawal Iraq. Also I am pretty sure that pre-invasion Saddam's Iraq wasn't the disneyland of the middle east.Halifax2TheMax said:Your stable Iraq consisted of families who had lived side by side for generations killing each other because they were Shia or Sunni. Whole neighborhoods that were a mix of Shia, Sunni, Christians and Jews blew apart with everyone retreating to their religion's neighborhood. Death squads from both sides moved freely and acted with impunity. US trained Shia police forces checked roadblocks during the day and killed Sunnis at night. Further the country splintered into the Shia south, Kurdish north and Sunni middle or triangle. You might want to read up on your so called "stable Iraq." Spin, spin, spin and if I say it enough times it must be true.
And no, the Iraq I described was during your period of so called stable Iraq. Try reading some books written by American service members who served in pre-withdrawal Iraq. They went from a mission of killing the enemy to trying to prevent them from killing each other, slowly being sucked into a religious civil war. Read some books on the subject instead of partisan talking points issued by your favorite neocons who never had any real skin in the game.
Edit - sorry I forgot to answer your first question. Only a moron would think life for the average Iraqi now is better then it was pre-invasion. 2009 however is a whole different story. That being said had I know in 2003 that 6 years later a President would come to power who would take all the hard fought gains and completely flush them down the toilet...well then I too would have never supported the war.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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You don't? The ones I know in Canada are pretty happy with our system of government. It seems a little racist for you to believe otherwise.Halifax2TheMax said:
So why invade? Do you really believe the average Muslim, Arab, Persian, Houthi, Saudi, Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian or any member of any of the other sects, religions, countries, etc. etc. etc. desires to live under a western style democracy? You believe that?BS44325 said:
If you only saw my library.Halifax2TheMax said:
And Iraq is now the Disneyland of the Middle East? Is life for the average Iraqi better now or pre 2003?BS44325 said:
Sorry but the world you are describing is the post-withdrawal Iraq. Also I am pretty sure that pre-invasion Saddam's Iraq wasn't the disneyland of the middle east.Halifax2TheMax said:Your stable Iraq consisted of families who had lived side by side for generations killing each other because they were Shia or Sunni. Whole neighborhoods that were a mix of Shia, Sunni, Christians and Jews blew apart with everyone retreating to their religion's neighborhood. Death squads from both sides moved freely and acted with impunity. US trained Shia police forces checked roadblocks during the day and killed Sunnis at night. Further the country splintered into the Shia south, Kurdish north and Sunni middle or triangle. You might want to read up on your so called "stable Iraq." Spin, spin, spin and if I say it enough times it must be true.
And no, the Iraq I described was during your period of so called stable Iraq. Try reading some books written by American service members who served in pre-withdrawal Iraq. They went from a mission of killing the enemy to trying to prevent them from killing each other, slowly being sucked into a religious civil war. Read some books on the subject instead of partisan talking points issued by your favorite neocons who never had any real skin in the game.
Edit - sorry I forgot to answer your first question. Only a moron would think life for the average Iraqi now is better then it was pre-invasion. 2009 however is a whole different story. That being said had I know in 2003 that 6 years later a President would come to power who would take all the hard fought gains and completely flush them down the toilet...well then I too would have never supported the war.0 -
Why don't you poll citizens of the Middle East and find out whether they would prefer to live their lives in peace with their traditions and form of government or prefer to live in peace under a western style democracy with all of its trappings? I think the answer will surprise you.
I think it's racist of you to constantly want to wage war on Muslims or people of the Middle East because you claim to know what's best for them.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Do you think I "constantly want to wage war on Muslims"?Halifax2TheMax said:Why don't you poll citizens of the Middle East and find out whether they would prefer to live their lives in peace with their traditions and form of government or prefer to live in peace under a western style democracy with all of its trappings? I think the answer will surprise you.
I think it's racist of you to constantly want to wage war on Muslims or people of the Middle East because you claim to know what's best for them.
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YesBS44325 said:
Do you think I "constantly want to wage war on Muslims"?Halifax2TheMax said:Why don't you poll citizens of the Middle East and find out whether they would prefer to live their lives in peace with their traditions and form of government or prefer to live in peace under a western style democracy with all of its trappings? I think the answer will surprise you.
I think it's racist of you to constantly want to wage war on Muslims or people of the Middle East because you claim to know what's best for them.
A yes or no answer is fine.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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This is why I am on the AMT Brian.Halifax2TheMax said:
YesBS44325 said:
Do you think I "constantly want to wage war on Muslims"?Halifax2TheMax said:Why don't you poll citizens of the Middle East and find out whether they would prefer to live their lives in peace with their traditions and form of government or prefer to live in peace under a western style democracy with all of its trappings? I think the answer will surprise you.
I think it's racist of you to constantly want to wage war on Muslims or people of the Middle East because you claim to know what's best for them.
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So apparently Iran has been cheating throughout this negotiating period
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/world/middleeast/irans-nuclear-stockpile-grows-complicating-negotiations.html?_r=0&referrer=
Can't we just admit that this deal is going nowhere? Why pretend anymore? Even the French are saying there are no enforcement measures in what is being discussed.0 -
No.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Now we get some idea of why the sanctions were not working under the corruption of the Clinton state department.
Essentially: Swedish corporations such as Ericsson doing huge business with Iran. They funnel money to the Clinton Global Initiative. Hillary leaves these companies off the sanctions list. Bill Clinton gets $750,000.00 cheque a week or so after the sanction list is released. Ericsson technology used to track internal Iranian opposition.
If you thought Halliburton was bad then this should disgust you. Everything you all hate is here...International corporation making side payments to elite politicians so that they can do business with terror states that both threaten their neighbours and suppress their own people.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/2/clinton-foundations-sweden-fundraising-arm-cashed-/
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yes.BS44325 said:
Do you think I "constantly want to wage war on Muslims"?Halifax2TheMax said:Why don't you poll citizens of the Middle East and find out whether they would prefer to live their lives in peace with their traditions and form of government or prefer to live in peace under a western style democracy with all of its trappings? I think the answer will surprise you.
I think it's racist of you to constantly want to wage war on Muslims or people of the Middle East because you claim to know what's best for them.
A yes or no answer is fine.
otherwise you would not be lobbying for continued american presence in iraq.
why do we have to do the fighting? why can't your country go in there and hold shit down?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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It is pretty disgusting, but not nearly half as bad as Haliburton's role in the invasion of Iraq.BS44325 said:Now we get some idea of why the sanctions were not working under the corruption of the Clinton state department.
Essentially: Swedish corporations such as Ericsson doing huge business with Iran. They funnel money to the Clinton Global Initiative. Hillary leaves these companies off the sanctions list. Bill Clinton gets $750,000.00 cheque a week or so after the sanction list is released. Ericsson technology used to track internal Iranian opposition.
If you thought Halliburton was bad then this should disgust you. Everything you all hate is here...International corporation making side payments to elite politicians so that they can do business with terror states that both threaten their neighbours and suppress their own people.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/2/clinton-foundations-sweden-fundraising-arm-cashed-/
It's interesting that you don't think the money connection is relevant to Haliburton but you do with Hillary... Seems a bit biased to me.
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Of course it is. He's an adherent if Prager University.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Haliburton was paid to provide war zone services to the US government and the Iraqi transitional government for the benefit of those governments. Bill Clinton was paid to allow Iran to evade sanctions and receive telecommunication technologies for the benefit of himself. This technology was then used to help crush the green movement against US interests.rgambs said:
It is pretty disgusting, but not nearly half as bad as Haliburton's role in the invasion of Iraq.BS44325 said:Now we get some idea of why the sanctions were not working under the corruption of the Clinton state department.
Essentially: Swedish corporations such as Ericsson doing huge business with Iran. They funnel money to the Clinton Global Initiative. Hillary leaves these companies off the sanctions list. Bill Clinton gets $750,000.00 cheque a week or so after the sanction list is released. Ericsson technology used to track internal Iranian opposition.
If you thought Halliburton was bad then this should disgust you. Everything you all hate is here...International corporation making side payments to elite politicians so that they can do business with terror states that both threaten their neighbours and suppress their own people.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/2/clinton-foundations-sweden-fundraising-arm-cashed-/
It's interesting that you don't think the money connection is relevant to Haliburton but you do with Hillary... Seems a bit biased to me.
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You are conflating the situation. Politicians in both cases were bribed, but equating Halliburton to Clinton is innacurate.BS44325 said:
Haliburton was paid to provide war zone services to the US government and the Iraqi transitional government for the benefit of those governments. Bill Clinton was paid to allow Iran to evade sanctions and receive telecommunication technologies for the benefit of himself. This technology was then used to help crush the green movement against US interests.rgambs said:
It is pretty disgusting, but not nearly half as bad as Haliburton's role in the invasion of Iraq.BS44325 said:Now we get some idea of why the sanctions were not working under the corruption of the Clinton state department.
Essentially: Swedish corporations such as Ericsson doing huge business with Iran. They funnel money to the Clinton Global Initiative. Hillary leaves these companies off the sanctions list. Bill Clinton gets $750,000.00 cheque a week or so after the sanction list is released. Ericsson technology used to track internal Iranian opposition.
If you thought Halliburton was bad then this should disgust you. Everything you all hate is here...International corporation making side payments to elite politicians so that they can do business with terror states that both threaten their neighbours and suppress their own people.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/2/clinton-foundations-sweden-fundraising-arm-cashed-/
It's interesting that you don't think the money connection is relevant to Haliburton but you do with Hillary... Seems a bit biased to me.
Not nearly half as bad?
Halliburton was the one bribing, Clinton was being bribed.
Halliburton PAID politicians to be given war zone access and lucrative defense contracts through years of lobbying and inside access.
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No bid contracts too. Which are against the law. Which BS already knew.rgambs said:
You are conflating the situation. Politicians in both cases were bribed, but equating Halliburton to Clinton is innacurate.BS44325 said:
Haliburton was paid to provide war zone services to the US government and the Iraqi transitional government for the benefit of those governments. Bill Clinton was paid to allow Iran to evade sanctions and receive telecommunication technologies for the benefit of himself. This technology was then used to help crush the green movement against US interests.rgambs said:
It is pretty disgusting, but not nearly half as bad as Haliburton's role in the invasion of Iraq.BS44325 said:Now we get some idea of why the sanctions were not working under the corruption of the Clinton state department.
Essentially: Swedish corporations such as Ericsson doing huge business with Iran. They funnel money to the Clinton Global Initiative. Hillary leaves these companies off the sanctions list. Bill Clinton gets $750,000.00 cheque a week or so after the sanction list is released. Ericsson technology used to track internal Iranian opposition.
If you thought Halliburton was bad then this should disgust you. Everything you all hate is here...International corporation making side payments to elite politicians so that they can do business with terror states that both threaten their neighbours and suppress their own people.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/2/clinton-foundations-sweden-fundraising-arm-cashed-/
It's interesting that you don't think the money connection is relevant to Haliburton but you do with Hillary... Seems a bit biased to me.
Not nearly half as bad?
Halliburton was the one bribing, Clinton was being bribed.
Halliburton PAID politicians to be given war zone access and lucrative defense contracts through years of lobbying and inside access.Post edited by badbrains on0
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