Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
I'm growing a little weary of the same, predictable response as well, Hedo.
If those stats were true... what would they be saying? Are they speaking more to the nature of the demographic? Are they speaking to a police mentality? Are they speaking to socioeconomic conditions leaving some feeling hopeless, desperate and/or angry? Is it a combination of these and more to varying degrees?
And Hugh brought up a great point that, of course, has been lost on some: if I work at a job- say a cop- and consistently get called to deal with, say, purple people... I am, as a human being, likely to develop a disposition that does not favor purple people.
Looking from the outside, it's easy and correct to say, "Hey. Don't be that way!" But as empathetic as we might be for a person resorting to crime or a certain way of life... I find it ironic we don't afford a cop the same degree of understanding when wondering why they might have developed a disposition the way they have in the line of duty.
With the guys record and disregard for the law, are you saying a ban on firearms would have deterred him? I don't know all the facts yet but there's a good chance he didn't and couldn't have purchased the gun legally. Out here I would bet money that crystal meth had a lot to do with it. That shit is illegal. Bad people find a way to do bad things.
Edit - if I got your meaning wrong I apologize. The language led me to believe that is your position.
not what i said at all. just rehashing the normal good vs evil bullshit we talk about on here all the time.
Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
I'm growing a little weary of the same, predictable response as well, Hedo.
If those stats were true... what would they be saying? Are they speaking more to the nature of the demographic? Are they speaking to a police mentality? Are they speaking to socioeconomic conditions leaving some feeling hopeless, desperate and/or angry? Is it a combination of these and more to varying degrees?
And Hugh brought up a great point that, of course, has been lost on some: if I work at a job- say a cop- and consistently get called to deal with, say, purple people... I am, as a human being, likely to develop a disposition that does not favor purple people.
Looking from the outside, it's easy and correct to say, "Hey. Don't be that way!" But as empathetic as we might be for a person resorting to crime or a certain way of life... I find it ironic we don't afford a cop the same degree of understanding when wondering why they might have developed a disposition the way they have in the line of duty.
If a cop works in area with just purple people they should realize most of those purple people are good. And it's not a skin color thing it's an economic one.
There seems to be a bit of white backlash in these threads.
If you are white you have no idea what it's like to be black or deal with cops if black. No you don't.
So get off your high horses about being better or smarter when dealing with police. Or how everyone should be good like whites. Your not freakin special. You were born lucky mother fuckers.
Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
I'm growing a little weary of the same, predictable response as well, Hedo.
If those stats were true... what would they be saying? Are they speaking more to the nature of the demographic? Are they speaking to a police mentality? Are they speaking to socioeconomic conditions leaving some feeling hopeless, desperate and/or angry? Is it a combination of these and more to varying degrees?
And Hugh brought up a great point that, of course, has been lost on some: if I work at a job- say a cop- and consistently get called to deal with, say, purple people... I am, as a human being, likely to develop a disposition that does not favor purple people.
Looking from the outside, it's easy and correct to say, "Hey. Don't be that way!" But as empathetic as we might be for a person resorting to crime or a certain way of life... I find it ironic we don't afford a cop the same degree of understanding when wondering why they might have developed a disposition the way they have in the line of duty.
If a cop works in area with just purple people they should realize most of those purple people are good. And it's not a skin color thing it's an economic one.
There seems to be a bit of white backlash in these threads.
If you are white you have no idea what it's like to be black or deal with cops if black. No you don't.
So get off your high horses about being better or smarter when dealing with police. Or how everyone should be good like whites. Your not freakin special. You were born lucky mother fuckers.
Wow.
Okay. You're right: cops suck. Whites are pompous, spoiled and they suck too. And blacks that disrespect cops should be given more latitude to disrespect cops- they can't help themselves.
If a cop works in area with just purple people they should realize most of those purple people are good. And it's not a skin color thing it's an economic one.
There seems to be a bit of white backlash in these threads.
If you are white you have no idea what it's like to be black or deal with cops if black. No you don't.
So get off your high horses about being better or smarter when dealing with police. Or how everyone should be good like whites. Your not freakin special. You were born lucky mother fuckers.
It's not about being superior or more intelligent or fucking equines - it's about common sense.
As to "good like whites"? Don't even know what that means - and if you think the majority of comments (ie, commenters) support that shit, you're way off. WAY off.
Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
I'm growing a little weary of the same, predictable response as well, Hedo.
If those stats were true... what would they be saying? Are they speaking more to the nature of the demographic? Are they speaking to a police mentality? Are they speaking to socioeconomic conditions leaving some feeling hopeless, desperate and/or angry? Is it a combination of these and more to varying degrees?
And Hugh brought up a great point that, of course, has been lost on some: if I work at a job- say a cop- and consistently get called to deal with, say, purple people... I am, as a human being, likely to develop a disposition that does not favor purple people.
Looking from the outside, it's easy and correct to say, "Hey. Don't be that way!" But as empathetic as we might be for a person resorting to crime or a certain way of life... I find it ironic we don't afford a cop the same degree of understanding when wondering why they might have developed a disposition the way they have in the line of duty.
If a cop works in area with just purple people they should realize most of those purple people are good. And it's not a skin color thing it's an economic one.
There seems to be a bit of white backlash in these threads.
If you are white you have no idea what it's like to be black or deal with cops if black. No you don't.
So get off your high horses about being better or smarter when dealing with police. Or how everyone should be good like whites. Your not freakin special. You were born lucky mother fuckers.
Wow.
Okay. You're right: cops suck. Whites are pompous, spoiled and they suck too. And blacks that disrespect cops should be given more latitude to disrespect cops- they can't help themselves.
Is this the general idea I should understand?
Said none of those things but the haves have not a fucking clue!
Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
I'm growing a little weary of the same, predictable response as well, Hedo.
If those stats were true... what would they be saying? Are they speaking more to the nature of the demographic? Are they speaking to a police mentality? Are they speaking to socioeconomic conditions leaving some feeling hopeless, desperate and/or angry? Is it a combination of these and more to varying degrees?
And Hugh brought up a great point that, of course, has been lost on some: if I work at a job- say a cop- and consistently get called to deal with, say, purple people... I am, as a human being, likely to develop a disposition that does not favor purple people.
Looking from the outside, it's easy and correct to say, "Hey. Don't be that way!" But as empathetic as we might be for a person resorting to crime or a certain way of life... I find it ironic we don't afford a cop the same degree of understanding when wondering why they might have developed a disposition the way they have in the line of duty.
If a cop works in area with just purple people they should realize most of those purple people are good. And it's not a skin color thing it's an economic one.
There seems to be a bit of white backlash in these threads.
If you are white you have no idea what it's like to be black or deal with cops if black. No you don't.
So get off your high horses about being better or smarter when dealing with police. Or how everyone should be good like whites. Your not freakin special. You were born lucky mother fuckers.
Wow.
Okay. You're right: cops suck. Whites are pompous, spoiled and they suck too. And blacks that disrespect cops should be given more latitude to disrespect cops- they can't help themselves.
Is this the general idea I should understand?
Said none of those things but the haves have not a fucking clue!
Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
Exactly. I want to hear more about how the arrest went down. Did he comply or resist? Did the officers feel threatened? Did he struggle with them or attempt to go for their sidearms?
Other than Tamir Rice, most of the stories on this board of blacks getting shot by cops seem to involve some sort of douchebaggery on the part of the guy getting shot. I know some on this board like to make everything a strictly racial issue, dismissing other critical factors.
Only one that has been discussed involved douchbaggery that may of given cop reasonable reason to shoot,Ferguson.
Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
Exactly. I want to hear more about how the arrest went down. Did he comply or resist? Did the officers feel threatened? Did he struggle with them or attempt to go for their sidearms?
Other than Tamir Rice, most of the stories on this board of blacks getting shot by cops seem to involve some sort of douchebaggery on the part of the guy getting shot. I know some on this board like to make everything a strictly racial issue, dismissing other critical factors.
Only one that has been discussed involved douchbaggery that may of given cop reasonable reason to shoot,Ferguson.
Just saw this great movie- "Rudderless"- and was really blown away by it. It's from last year but I just caught up with it. We've had many gun/ gun violence threads but until now I don't think I've ever quite looked at gun violence from this angle (avoiding spoilers but you guys are on top of it and probably seen it already anyway...).
In the extras William H. Macy (it's basically his movie) mentioned gun violence being part of the film but didn't want the movie to be preachy or sermonizing. Great movie if any of you haven't seen it and the music is excellent.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
Exactly. I want to hear more about how the arrest went down. Did he comply or resist? Did the officers feel threatened? Did he struggle with them or attempt to go for their sidearms?
Other than Tamir Rice, most of the stories on this board of blacks getting shot by cops seem to involve some sort of douchebaggery on the part of the guy getting shot. I know some on this board like to make everything a strictly racial issue, dismissing other critical factors.
Only one that has been discussed involved douchbaggery that may of given cop reasonable reason to shoot,Ferguson.
Maybe the actions taken (or not taken) are specific to the situation, maybe the location, maybe other factors aside from the old black and white routine.
Exactly. I want to hear more about how the arrest went down. Did he comply or resist? Did the officers feel threatened? Did he struggle with them or attempt to go for their sidearms?
Other than Tamir Rice, most of the stories on this board of blacks getting shot by cops seem to involve some sort of douchebaggery on the part of the guy getting shot. I know some on this board like to make everything a strictly racial issue, dismissing other critical factors.
Only one that has been discussed involved douchbaggery that may of given cop reasonable reason to shoot,Ferguson.
And the Homeless crazy guy in LA
Homeless and crazy shouldn't equal death.
Homeless, crazy, and attacking police officers might though.
Callen... what do you propose the police do when they are being assaulted? You are hyper-critical... so I am assuming you have some better ideas. Please share them... but don't bother with the 'leave the guns at the station' one because we all know this is ludicrous.
Just saw this great movie- "Rudderless"- and was really blown away by it. It's from last year but I just caught up with it. We've had many gun/ gun violence threads but until now I don't think I've ever quite looked at gun violence from this angle (avoiding spoilers but you guys are on top of it and probably seen it already anyway...).
In the extras William H. Macy (it's basically his movie) mentioned gun violence being part of the film but didn't want the movie to be preachy or sermonizing. Great movie if any of you haven't seen it and the music is excellent.
I will check it out. I think William H. Macy is underrated as an actor. Thanks.
Just saw this great movie- "Rudderless"- and was really blown away by it. It's from last year but I just caught up with it. We've had many gun/ gun violence threads but until now I don't think I've ever quite looked at gun violence from this angle (avoiding spoilers but you guys are on top of it and probably seen it already anyway...).
In the extras William H. Macy (it's basically his movie) mentioned gun violence being part of the film but didn't want the movie to be preachy or sermonizing. Great movie if any of you haven't seen it and the music is excellent.
I will check it out. I think William H. Macy is underrated as an actor. Thanks.
Just saw this great movie- "Rudderless"- and was really blown away by it. It's from last year but I just caught up with it. We've had many gun/ gun violence threads but until now I don't think I've ever quite looked at gun violence from this angle (avoiding spoilers but you guys are on top of it and probably seen it already anyway...).
In the extras William H. Macy (it's basically his movie) mentioned gun violence being part of the film but didn't want the movie to be preachy or sermonizing. Great movie if any of you haven't seen it and the music is excellent.
I will check it out. I think William H. Macy is underrated as an actor. Thanks.
I wanted to snap his character's neck in Fargo.
Macy is doing great work these days. Have you seen "Rudderless"?
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Just saw this great movie- "Rudderless"- and was really blown away by it. It's from last year but I just caught up with it. We've had many gun/ gun violence threads but until now I don't think I've ever quite looked at gun violence from this angle (avoiding spoilers but you guys are on top of it and probably seen it already anyway...).
In the extras William H. Macy (it's basically his movie) mentioned gun violence being part of the film but didn't want the movie to be preachy or sermonizing. Great movie if any of you haven't seen it and the music is excellent.
I will check it out. I think William H. Macy is underrated as an actor. Thanks.
I wanted to snap his character's neck in Fargo.
Macy is doing great work these days. Have you seen "Rudderless"?
He did great work in Fargo- hence the 'snap his character's neck' comment. He needed to play a little worm... and he succeeded big time
By the way... if you've never seen Fargo... you need to. A classic by every definition of the word.
Fargo is among the few films that no matter when I come across it, I have to watch. LOVE IT.
Macy was great in Shameless as well, though I never made it past the first season.
B, I'll check out Rudderless if I can.
Love his portrayal of Frank Gallagher as well. I guess there's enough gun threads on here. Maybe I should move this to AET. There aren't enough William H. Macy threads.
Just saw this great movie- "Rudderless"- and was really blown away by it. It's from last year but I just caught up with it. We've had many gun/ gun violence threads but until now I don't think I've ever quite looked at gun violence from this angle (avoiding spoilers but you guys are on top of it and probably seen it already anyway...).
In the extras William H. Macy (it's basically his movie) mentioned gun violence being part of the film but didn't want the movie to be preachy or sermonizing. Great movie if any of you haven't seen it and the music is excellent.
I will check it out. I think William H. Macy is underrated as an actor. Thanks.
I wanted to snap his character's neck in Fargo.
Macy is doing great work these days. Have you seen "Rudderless"?
He did great work in Fargo- hence the 'snap his character's neck' comment. He needed to play a little worm... and he succeeded big time
By the way... if you've never seen Fargo... you need to. A classic by every definition of the word.
Oh yah! I once had a neighbor who was from Fargo ND. Fortunately he was not into chippers.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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If those stats were true... what would they be saying? Are they speaking more to the nature of the demographic? Are they speaking to a police mentality? Are they speaking to socioeconomic conditions leaving some feeling hopeless, desperate and/or angry? Is it a combination of these and more to varying degrees?
And Hugh brought up a great point that, of course, has been lost on some: if I work at a job- say a cop- and consistently get called to deal with, say, purple people... I am, as a human being, likely to develop a disposition that does not favor purple people.
Looking from the outside, it's easy and correct to say, "Hey. Don't be that way!" But as empathetic as we might be for a person resorting to crime or a certain way of life... I find it ironic we don't afford a cop the same degree of understanding when wondering why they might have developed a disposition the way they have in the line of duty.
There seems to be a bit of white backlash in these threads.
If you are white you have no idea what it's like to be black or deal with cops if black. No you don't.
So get off your high horses about being better or smarter when dealing with police. Or how everyone should be good like whites. Your not freakin special. You were born lucky mother fuckers.
Okay. You're right: cops suck. Whites are pompous, spoiled and they suck too. And blacks that disrespect cops should be given more latitude to disrespect cops- they can't help themselves.
Is this the general idea I should understand?
As to "good like whites"? Don't even know what that means - and if you think the majority of comments (ie, commenters) support that shit, you're way off. WAY off.
Again whites have not a fucking clue and if you think for a second your better due to your skin color........
And it's time for you to come off your high horse. The majority of the people on this forum fully recognize the racial issue that exists.
In the extras William H. Macy (it's basically his movie) mentioned gun violence being part of the film but didn't want the movie to be preachy or sermonizing. Great movie if any of you haven't seen it and the music is excellent.
Callen... what do you propose the police do when they are being assaulted? You are hyper-critical... so I am assuming you have some better ideas. Please share them... but don't bother with the 'leave the guns at the station' one because we all know this is ludicrous.
By the way... if you've never seen Fargo... you need to. A classic by every definition of the word.
Macy was great in Shameless as well, though I never made it past the first season.
B, I'll check out Rudderless if I can.
Armageddon
Shawshank Redemption
Independence Day
Crimson Tide(or any Denzel Movie)
Forrest Gump
Legally Blonde
Goodfellas
Silver Linings Playbook
Apocalypse Now
Devil Wears Prada
Fargo
Anchorman,Old School,Wedding Crashers,talladega Nights
Austin Powers
Van Wilder
Fletch
CaddyShack
Blindside
Fried Green Tomatoes
Pulp Fiction
Bad Boys 2
Happy Gilmore
Big Trouble
Any Drew Barrymore movie
To name a few,in our house anyway.Sorry for the detour.This is way more fun to talk about then mass shootings.
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