The War On Science

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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    paulonious said:

    what type of data would it take to definitively convince people that man made technology has fucked with and/or sped up the natural climate cycles on earth?

    It's impossible to actually prove that.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    rgambs said:

    Big Pharm absolutely has it's hands in the medical school curriculum and continuing education. There is no doubt. Do you think the endowments and donations are done for pure charity? It's the exact game that lobbyists and politicians play in Washington.

    rgambs said:

    Big Pharm absolutely has it's hands in the medical school curriculum and continuing education. There is no doubt. Do you think the endowments and donations are done for pure charity? It's the exact game that lobbyists and politicians play in Washington.

    No, endowments and donations aren't done for charity. They're done for branding, name recognition, getting their message in front of everyone as often they can. I certainly don't like it any more than you do, but I don't see the evidence that they impact on actual medical education, particularly in the area of nutrition which is what you originally claimed.

    Getting their product used in the OR for a "donation"? Sure, I'd believe that.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,809
    edited March 2015
    Last-12-Exit said:

    paulonious said:

    what type of data would it take to definitively convince people that man made technology has fucked with and/or sped up the natural climate cycles on earth?

    It's impossible to actually prove that.
    no it isnt. But we will all be dust in order to do so.

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    edited March 2015
    paulonious said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    paulonious said:

    what type of data would it take to definitively convince people that man made technology has fucked with and/or sped up the natural climate cycles on earth?

    It's impossible to actually prove that.
    no it isnt. But we will all be dust in order to do so.

    So scientists know what the climate is supposed to be in 50 years? They can't even tell me if it is going to rain tomorrow. There is no way to prove if anything we are doing on earth is speeding up or slowing down weather cycles.

    I don't know what you mean by we are all dust.
    Post edited by Last-12-Exit on
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,809
    Last-12-Exit said:

    paulonious said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    paulonious said:

    what type of data would it take to definitively convince people that man made technology has fucked with and/or sped up the natural climate cycles on earth?

    It's impossible to actually prove that.
    no it isnt. But we will all be dust in order to do so.

    So scientists know what the climate is supposed to be in 50 years? They can't even tell me if it is going to rain tomorrow. There is no way to prove if anything we are doing on earth is speeding up or slowing down weather cycles.

    I don't know what you mean by we are all dust.
    Climate and weather are not the same.

    I mean by the time the people who refuse to be convinced will only be when its too late.

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • cottagesteeze
    cottagesteeze St. Paul, MN Posts: 218
    Last-12-Exit said:

    paulonious said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    paulonious said:

    what type of data would it take to definitively convince people that man made technology has fucked with and/or sped up the natural climate cycles on earth?

    It's impossible to actually prove that.
    no it isnt. But we will all be dust in order to do so.

    So scientists know what the climate is supposed to be in 50 years? They can't even tell me if it is going to rain tomorrow. There is no way to prove if anything we are doing on earth is speeding up or slowing down weather cycles.

    I don't know what you mean by we are all dust.
    They can't tell if it will rain because thats called weather, not climate. They can however tell you that living in a desert will mean youre going to receive less rain, based on the arid climate. YAY for middle school science!
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Yes, that was a poor analogy on my part
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    Well what I think about the ah, cah-lime-mate, is ahh, yeah, like this-AH!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ah1JM9mf60
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/agriculture/geneticmodification/11702744/Anti-GM-protesters-dont-understand-how-science-works.html


    Anti-GM protesters don't understand how science works

    Protesters cheering the collapse of a £1m genetically-modified wheat trial seem too dim to realise that progress requires failure

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