3 college students shot/killed in chapel hills, NC

http://www.wral.com/three-killed-in-chapel-hill-shooting-46-year-old-man-charged/14438074/

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. — A 46-year-old Chapel Hill man has been charged with three counts of first-degree murder after three college students were shot and killed Tuesday evening at a condominium complex on Summerwalk Circle in Chapel Hill, authorities said.

Craig Stephen Hicks turned himself in to the Chatham County Sheriff’s Office in Pittsboro following the shooting, which happened in the Finley Forest complex off Barbee Chapel Road shortly after 5 p.m.

Deah Shaddy Barakat, 23, of Chapel Hill, Yusor Mohammad, 21, of Chapel Hill, and Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha, 19, of Raleigh, were pronounced dead at the scene, police said.

All three victims were shot in the head, sources said.

Barakat, a second-year dental student at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, married Yusor Mohammad in late December, according to school officials.

According to a page on YouCaring.com, a free online fundraising website, Barakat was one of the organizers of an effort to raise money to provide free dental care to students of the Salaam School in Turkey. Barakat and others were scheduled to travel to Turkey in the summer of 2015 to treat children who have become refugees due to the ongoing Syrian civil war.

Mohammad is listed on her Facebook page as a student at North Carolina State University, and officials at UNC said she was planning to begin dental studies in Chapel Hill this fall.

Abu-Salha, Mohammad's younger sister, is listed as a sophomore at NC State and a graduate of Athens Drive High School in Raleigh.

The three victims were Muslim, and Hicks is not, according to posts about atheism on his Facebook page. In thousands of posts on social media, many have now questioned whether the victims' Islamic faith was a factor in the shooting.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, the nation's largest civil advocacy group for Muslims, called on law enforcement officials Wednesday to address speculation about a motive for the killings.

"Based on the brutal nature of this crime, the past anti-religion statements of the alleged perpetrator, the religious attire of two of the victims and the rising anti-Muslim rhetoric in American society, we urge state and federal law enforcement authorities to quickly address speculation of a possible bias motive in this case," CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad said in a statement. "Our heartfelt condolences go to the families and loved ones of the victims and to the local community."

Investigators have not said what led to the shootings. Hicks was being held without bond early Wednesday in the Durham County jail. He is scheduled to make a first court appearance Wednesday morning.

The shootings came as a surprise to Bethany Boring, who encountered police cars, crime scene tape and people visibly upset when she stepped out of her home to walk her dog.

"It's a very quiet community," she said. "It's a lot of graduate and professional students. You know, professional's families."

Daniel Waggoner echoed Boring's description of the neighborhood.

"I'm up late. I come home late, and it's always quiet when I get here," he said. "So I mean, yeah, it's surprising."

A campus crime alert from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill was sent to students. The complex is located near campus.


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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    edited February 2015
    Fucked up
  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    I just heard this too
    Nart, I knew you would be commenting- thank you
    Terrible News....
    I feel so bad for these people who were killed and their families.
    all this hate has got to fucking STOP.
    another black eye for NC
    but not surprising as we basically mirror America as a whole.
    We have our liberals like me and then we have the Fox News crowd.
    unfortunately they are winning the battle lately and our state is going to shit.
    this murderer is a reflection of that fucked up way of thinking.

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    this crazy man isn't a reflection on america or this would be happening on a weekly basis. and even that is based on that we are making assumptions.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    I wonder if the shooter was Muslim would the news be all over this? Retoricle question, we ALL already know the answer. I love how in the article, they don't have a motive "yet". Now that's fucken classic.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Wait, jay, are you saying we shouldn't assume he killed them because they WERE Muslim? Really man? Come on. I guess He must of not liked the falafel sandwich they served him.
  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    Jason P said:

    this crazy man isn't a reflection on america or this would be happening on a weekly basis. and even that is based on that we are making assumptions.

    Maybe not everyone would actually commit the act,
    but I am sure that there are a lot of people who probably condone it.
    I have seen some fucked up shit man.
    My friend and I had to tell these guys to leave this guy alone right after 9/11.
    they were harassing him because he was wearing a turban.
    he was a Sikh, they thought he was a Muslim.
    these people are ignorant and filled with hatred.
    you probably don't associate with them and neither do I but they are out there my friend.

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    badbrains said:

    Wait, jay, are you saying we shouldn't assume he killed them because they WERE Muslim? Really man? Come on. I guess He must of not liked the falafel sandwich they served him.

    Granted he looks like a goober straight out of central casting for such a crime, but the police haven't established a motive and media is using Facebook posts as a credible source cause they can't wait 48 hours (or even 48 minutes) for a bit of due process.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Thanks for your story Logan. I remember hearing stories like that after 9-11 as well. I believe it happened in NYC to.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1751841


    The mass shooting of a gurdwara (Sikh temple) in Wisconsin on Sunday is merely the latest chapter in a history of violence. In the months following the attacks of 9/11, more than 300 incidences of hate crimes against Sikhs were reported, according to the Sikh Coalition (PDF).

    Though their numbers make up the world's fifth-largest religion, Sikhs are still misunderstood (No, they are not Muslims or Hindus). Below is a round up of notable hate crimes and bias incidents against Sikhs since 9/11. (H/t Buzz Feed.)

    Sept. 15, 2001 -- Mesa, Ariz.: Four days after the infamous attacks of 9/11, Balbir Singh Sodhi, a 49-year-old Sikh, is shot and killed outside the gas station he owned by Frank Silva Roque. When police approached to arrest him, Roque says, “I'm a patriot and an American. I'm American. I'm a damn American.” [More from HuffPost.]

    Nov. 18, 2001 -- Palermo, N.Y.: Three teens burn down Gobind Sadan, a gurdwara (Sikh temple) in New York, because they thought it was named for Osama bin Laden. [More from BeliefNet and Tribune of India.]

    Dec. 12, 2001 -- Los Angeles, Calif.: Surinder Singh Sidhi, a liquor store owner in Los Angeles who took to wearing an American flag turban after 9/11 out of fear of being attacked, is beaten in his store by two men who accuse of him of being Osama bin Laden. [More from Real Sikhism.]

    Aug. 6, 2002 -- Daly City, Calif.: Sukhpal Singh, brother of Balbir Singh Sodhi, who was the first Sikh murdered following 9/11, is shot while driving his cab. [More from HuffPost, Real Sikhism and Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund.]

    May 20, 2003 -- Phoenix, Ariz.: Fifty-two-year-old Sikh immigrant and truck driver Avtar Singh is shot in his 18-wheeler while waiting for his son to pick him up. As he is being shot, he hears someone say: “Go back to where you belong.” [More from Real Sikhism.]

    Aug. 5, 2003 -- Queens, N.Y.: Members of a Sikh family are beaten outside of their home by drunk individuals yelling, "Go back to your country, Bin Laden." [More from NY Daily News.]

    Sept. 25, 2003 -- Tempe, Ariz.: Sukhvir Singh, a 33-year-old convenience store owner, is stabbed to death by Bruce Phillip Reed. It is not labeled as a hate crime. Representatives of the Phoenix Sikh community issue a statement that says, in part, “Together we can help others to evolve past hate and fear by continuing to organize to reach out to others with increased understanding, respect, and support. May our collective prayer be that God preserve and protect the honor of all people, our nation, and our world.” [More from the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund and SikhNet.]

    March 13, 2004 -- Fresno, Calif.: Gurdwara Sahib, a local Sikh temple, is vandalized with graffiti messages: “Rags Go Home” and “It’s Not Your Country. [More from SALDEF and Real Sikhism.]

    July 12, 2004 -- New York, N.Y.: Rajinder Singh Khalsa and Gurcharan Singh, cousins on their way to dinner at a restaurant, are beaten by two drunk white twentysomething men. The attackers describe Gurcharan’s turban as a “curtain.” When Rajinder tries to intervene, saying that Sikhs are peaceful, he is beaten unconscious and suffers a fractured eye socket, among other injuries. [More from Real Sikhism.]

    May 24, 2007 -- Queens, N.Y.: A 15-year-old student has his hair forcibly cut by an older student at his high school. The scissor-wielding 17-year-old showed the Sikh a ring inscribed with Arabic, saying, “This ring is Allah. If you don't let me cut your hair, I will punch you with this ring.” Afterward, he cuts the younger boy’s hair. A main pillar of the Sikh faith compels followers to keep their hair uncut. [More from Real Sikhism and United Sikhs.]

    May 30, 2007 -- Joliet, Ill.: A decorated U.S. Navy veteran of the Gulf War, Kuldip Singh Nag is approached by a police officer outside of his home for an expired vehicle registration tag. The officer reportedly assaults Nag with pepper spray while hurling expletive-laced anti-immigrant statements. [More from SALDEF and ABC7 News. ]

    Jan. 14, 2008 -- New Hyde Park, N.Y.: A 63-year-old Sikh, Baljeet Singh, has his jaw and nose broken when attacked outside his temple by a man who lived next-door. David Wood, the attacker, had apparently disturbed members of the gurdwara in the past. [More from United Sikhs.]

    Feb. 28, 2008 -- Bryan, Texas: A Sikh man is assaulted in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Though the assailant called him a terrorist, punched him in the face and head and knocked his turban off, the Sikh man does not suffer major injuries. [More from SALDEF.]

    June 5, 2008 -- Queens, N.Y.: A ninth grade Sikh is attacked by another student, who tried to remove his patka, or under-turban, and had a history of bullying the boy. [More from Real Sikhism and United Sikhs.]

    June 5, 2008 -- Albuquerque, N.M.: A vehicle belonging to a Sikh family is defaced with the message “F*** Allah!” and a picture of male genitalia. [More from SALDEF.]

    Aug. 4, 2008 -- Phoenix, Ariz.: Inderjit Singh Jassal is shot and killed while working at a 7-Eleven. No clear motive is found. [More from SALDEF and The Arizona Republic.]

    Oct. 29, 2008 -- Carteret, N.J.: A Sikh man, Ajit Singh Chima, goes for a walk in his neighborhood. He is attacked by a man who casually leaves the scene afterward. Nothing is stolen. [More from SALDEF.]

    Jan. 30, 2009 -- Queens, N.Y.: Three men attack Jasmir Singh outside of a grocery store. Racial slurs are heard. A broken glass bottle is used. Singh loses vision in his left eye. [More from NY Daily News and United Sikhs.]

    Nov. 29, 2010 -- Sacramento, Calif.: Harbhajan Singh, a cab driver, is a attacked by passangers, who call him Osama bin Laden. Singh believes the attackers, who were later convicted, would have killed him. [More from SALDEF.]

    March 6, 2011 -- Elk Grove, Calif.: Two elderly Sikh men in traditional garb, out for a daily afternoon walk, are shot and killed. The perpetrator is not found. [More from Southern Poverty Law Center, SALDEF and The Sacramento Bee.]

    May 30, 2011 -- New York, N.Y.: Jiwan Singh, an MTA worker and the father of Jasmir Singh, who was assaulted in early 2009 in Queens, is attacked on the A train and accused of being related to Osama bin Laden. [More from the NY Daily News.]

    Feb. 6, 2012 -- Sterling Heights, Mich.: A gurdwara (Sikh temple) is defaced with graffiti that includes a gun and references to 9/11. [More from SALDEF.]

    Aug. 5, 2012 -- Oak Creek, Wis.: A gunman is shot dead by police after he opened fire in a gurdwara during Sikh prayer services, killing six.
  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    edited February 2015
    badbrains said:

    Thanks for your story Logan. I remember hearing stories like that after 9-11 as well. I believe it happened in NYC to.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1751841


    The mass shooting of a gurdwara (Sikh temple) in Wisconsin on Sunday is merely the latest chapter in a history of violence. In the months following the attacks of 9/11, more than 300 incidences of hate crimes against Sikhs were reported, according to the Sikh Coalition (PDF).

    Though their numbers make up the world's fifth-largest religion, Sikhs are still misunderstood (No, they are not Muslims or Hindus). Below is a round up of notable hate crimes and bias incidents against Sikhs since 9/11. (H/t Buzz Feed.)

    Sept. 15, 2001 -- Mesa, Ariz.: Four days after the infamous attacks of 9/11, Balbir Singh Sodhi, a 49-year-old Sikh, is shot and killed outside the gas station he owned by Frank Silva Roque. When police approached to arrest him, Roque says, “I'm a patriot and an American. I'm American. I'm a damn American.” [More from HuffPost.]

    Nov. 18, 2001 -- Palermo, N.Y.: Three teens burn down Gobind Sadan, a gurdwara (Sikh temple) in New York, because they thought it was named for Osama bin Laden. [More from BeliefNet and Tribune of India.]

    Dec. 12, 2001 -- Los Angeles, Calif.: Surinder Singh Sidhi, a liquor store owner in Los Angeles who took to wearing an American flag turban after 9/11 out of fear of being attacked, is beaten in his store by two men who accuse of him of being Osama bin Laden. [More from Real Sikhism.]

    Aug. 6, 2002 -- Daly City, Calif.: Sukhpal Singh, brother of Balbir Singh Sodhi, who was the first Sikh murdered following 9/11, is shot while driving his cab. [More from HuffPost, Real Sikhism and Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund.]

    May 20, 2003 -- Phoenix, Ariz.: Fifty-two-year-old Sikh immigrant and truck driver Avtar Singh is shot in his 18-wheeler while waiting for his son to pick him up. As he is being shot, he hears someone say: “Go back to where you belong.” [More from Real Sikhism.]

    Aug. 5, 2003 -- Queens, N.Y.: Members of a Sikh family are beaten outside of their home by drunk individuals yelling, "Go back to your country, Bin Laden." [More from NY Daily News.]

    Sept. 25, 2003 -- Tempe, Ariz.: Sukhvir Singh, a 33-year-old convenience store owner, is stabbed to death by Bruce Phillip Reed. It is not labeled as a hate crime. Representatives of the Phoenix Sikh community issue a statement that says, in part, “Together we can help others to evolve past hate and fear by continuing to organize to reach out to others with increased understanding, respect, and support. May our collective prayer be that God preserve and protect the honor of all people, our nation, and our world.” [More from the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund and SikhNet.]

    March 13, 2004 -- Fresno, Calif.: Gurdwara Sahib, a local Sikh temple, is vandalized with graffiti messages: “Rags Go Home” and “It’s Not Your Country. [More from SALDEF and Real Sikhism.]

    July 12, 2004 -- New York, N.Y.: Rajinder Singh Khalsa and Gurcharan Singh, cousins on their way to dinner at a restaurant, are beaten by two drunk white twentysomething men. The attackers describe Gurcharan’s turban as a “curtain.” When Rajinder tries to intervene, saying that Sikhs are peaceful, he is beaten unconscious and suffers a fractured eye socket, among other injuries. [More from Real Sikhism.]

    May 24, 2007 -- Queens, N.Y.: A 15-year-old student has his hair forcibly cut by an older student at his high school. The scissor-wielding 17-year-old showed the Sikh a ring inscribed with Arabic, saying, “This ring is Allah. If you don't let me cut your hair, I will punch you with this ring.” Afterward, he cuts the younger boy’s hair. A main pillar of the Sikh faith compels followers to keep their hair uncut. [More from Real Sikhism and United Sikhs.]

    May 30, 2007 -- Joliet, Ill.: A decorated U.S. Navy veteran of the Gulf War, Kuldip Singh Nag is approached by a police officer outside of his home for an expired vehicle registration tag. The officer reportedly assaults Nag with pepper spray while hurling expletive-laced anti-immigrant statements. [More from SALDEF and ABC7 News. ]

    Jan. 14, 2008 -- New Hyde Park, N.Y.: A 63-year-old Sikh, Baljeet Singh, has his jaw and nose broken when attacked outside his temple by a man who lived next-door. David Wood, the attacker, had apparently disturbed members of the gurdwara in the past. [More from United Sikhs.]

    Feb. 28, 2008 -- Bryan, Texas: A Sikh man is assaulted in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Though the assailant called him a terrorist, punched him in the face and head and knocked his turban off, the Sikh man does not suffer major injuries. [More from SALDEF.]

    June 5, 2008 -- Queens, N.Y.: A ninth grade Sikh is attacked by another student, who tried to remove his patka, or under-turban, and had a history of bullying the boy. [More from Real Sikhism and United Sikhs.]

    June 5, 2008 -- Albuquerque, N.M.: A vehicle belonging to a Sikh family is defaced with the message “F*** Allah!” and a picture of male genitalia. [More from SALDEF.]

    Aug. 4, 2008 -- Phoenix, Ariz.: Inderjit Singh Jassal is shot and killed while working at a 7-Eleven. No clear motive is found. [More from SALDEF and The Arizona Republic.]

    Oct. 29, 2008 -- Carteret, N.J.: A Sikh man, Ajit Singh Chima, goes for a walk in his neighborhood. He is attacked by a man who casually leaves the scene afterward. Nothing is stolen. [More from SALDEF.]

    Jan. 30, 2009 -- Queens, N.Y.: Three men attack Jasmir Singh outside of a grocery store. Racial slurs are heard. A broken glass bottle is used. Singh loses vision in his left eye. [More from NY Daily News and United Sikhs.]

    Nov. 29, 2010 -- Sacramento, Calif.: Harbhajan Singh, a cab driver, is a attacked by passangers, who call him Osama bin Laden. Singh believes the attackers, who were later convicted, would have killed him. [More from SALDEF.]

    March 6, 2011 -- Elk Grove, Calif.: Two elderly Sikh men in traditional garb, out for a daily afternoon walk, are shot and killed. The perpetrator is not found. [More from Southern Poverty Law Center, SALDEF and The Sacramento Bee.]

    May 30, 2011 -- New York, N.Y.: Jiwan Singh, an MTA worker and the father of Jasmir Singh, who was assaulted in early 2009 in Queens, is attacked on the A train and accused of being related to Osama bin Laden. [More from the NY Daily News.]

    Feb. 6, 2012 -- Sterling Heights, Mich.: A gurdwara (Sikh temple) is defaced with graffiti that includes a gun and references to 9/11. [More from SALDEF.]

    Aug. 5, 2012 -- Oak Creek, Wis.: A gunman is shot dead by police after he opened fire in a gurdwara during Sikh prayer services, killing six.

    HOLY SHIT, Nart.

    I guess you made my point for me.
    I just remember that the guy lived in my neighborhood and ran the local Indian grocery.
    A few drunk teenagers were hassling him at a convenience store.
    We told them to "get the fuck away from him". Dudes thankfully backed down or else it could've ended up on the list above.

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  • Just freaking unbelievable.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    No matter the motive for this crime, the perpetrator is scum and his actions disgusting.
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  • JimmyV said:

    No matter the motive for this crime, the perpetrator is scum and his actions disgusting.

    I would actually say 'filthy' scum. But we definitely share the same sentiments.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    That's a good one Thirty. Where are the fucken smiley emoticons
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    badbrains said:

    That's a good one Thirty. Where are the fucken smiley emoticons

    The PJ20 Saboteur stole them ...
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    In the Muslim world, he'd have his hands cut off for that theft. Bring him to justice!
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    JimmyV said:

    No matter the motive for this crime, the perpetrator is scum and his actions disgusting.

    Well-said. Nice to see you back, too - always appreciate your perspectives.

  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    He looked like a dumb redneck.Sad story.
    Unfortunate people still perpetrate these hate crimes.
    Saw a cartoon already on Twitter this am showing 3bleeding bodies laying on ground and a smiling white dude with a boom box stepping over them happy as a clam.On his jacket it said media,CNN,NBC,Fox,ABC
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    So terrible.

    THIS is what lowlife scum looks like Mr. McCain. You'd do well to take a good look and then follow with a look in the mirror...assuming you have a reflection at all!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Horrible story. Won't be surprised at all to find this was a racially motivated murder by some scumbag. If so, "scumbag" might be too nice a word.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    I love how the media is silent about this. Anymore questions about our so called free media?
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Oh god, I just heard on abc7 news that they are saying he killed them over a fucken parking space. Wow, he executed 3 Muslims by shooting them in the head, over a fucken parking space. Hahaha, that's some funny shit.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    badbrains said:

    Oh god, I just heard on abc7 news that they are saying he killed them over a fucken parking space. Wow, he executed 3 Muslims by shooting them in the head, over a fucken parking space. Hahaha, that's some funny shit.

    So no hate crime if it it is over a parking space.
  • lolobugglolobugg Posts: 8,192
    a parking space? sounds like the police are stalling for time

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Looking more like a hate crime. They were neighbors and he had menaced and intimidated them in the past according to the victims father.

    If it looks like a goober, it usually is a goober. I'm ok if we just get it over right now and use that cow pokey thing from No Country for Old Men on this goober.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Jason P said:

    Looking more like a hate crime. They were neighbors and he had menaced and intimidated them in the past according to the victims father.

    If it looks like a goober, it usually is a goober. I'm ok if we just get it over right now and use that cow pokey thing from No Country for Old Men on this goober.

    I like that idea jay.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Anybody see the father asking the cops about his son? If his son was dead or alive. Shit broke my heart. That one hurt.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,541
    What a fucked up world being a parent just kills me when i read about shit like this , how can you hate so much, i'm never gonna hate i'm never gonna hate another human being for the color of their skin or their religion or their sexual preference i'm never gonna hate i'm never gonna hate ...............................
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  • they should have had guns....

    i was just trying to beat the nra and national republican party to it.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Family of the murder 3 speak.

    http://youtu.be/IGJr8pJgeZ4
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Powerful video of father asking cops about his son. I'm warning you, it's gonna hit you right in the stomach.

    http://youtu.be/oPuJU0VP4Aw
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