NBC's Brian Williams

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  • SP96445
    SP96445 Posts: 215
    backseatLover12 wrote: »
    Brian Williams embellishes one news story = firestorm. Fox News lies unapologetically for 20 straight years = #1 cable news network.

    Exactly! Thats why I feel this whole "outrage" seems so arbitrary.
    I guess the public holds NBC/Brian Williams to a higher standard of "integrity"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't know why a comparison is needed. That's like my saying "well, all my friends did it!". Valiant attempt at justification but in the end, I fucked up.

    That's the beauty of integrity - it stands on its own.

    And...I'm not outraged, I'm holding this person to the same standards I expect of anyone - whether someone well-known or not.
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Yeah. No pitchforks and torches here. He fucked up. He'll own it. Let the talk show hosts have their fun. Next week this will be old news. Unless I misremember it. (sorry, had to =) )
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    I'm merely pointing out the clear difference in how people view Fox News compared with NBC. They're both liars, but one is quite well known for its lying and it's not only publicly accepted but that they are considered to be #1.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    backseatLover12 wrote: »
    I'm merely pointing out the clear difference in how people view Fox News compared with NBC. They're both liars, but one is quite well known for its lying and it's not only publicly accepted but that they are considered to be #1.

    As mentioned, I really like Brian Williams, but I think there is a huge difference between cable and network news.
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Cliffy6745 wrote: »
    backseatLover12 wrote: »
    I'm merely pointing out the clear difference in how people view Fox News compared with NBC. They're both liars, but one is quite well known for its lying and it's not only publicly accepted but that they are considered to be #1.

    As mentioned, I really like Brian Williams, but I think there is a huge difference between cable and network news.

    No, there's not. With the birth of cable news, news just became even more an entertainment outlet, more corporate ownership, less public service. Have you seen Anchorman 2? As dumb as it was, it did show what happened to the news in general. It's all phony.
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited February 2015
    If you really want to read up (and I suggest everyone do this), here's some good links about our mainstream media. All of the media in the U.S. is owned by 6 corporations. They dictate what we hear. Finding reliable info defacing mainstream media is difficult because the media wants to keep the truth away from the public. But it is out there.
    http://www.globalissues.org/article/532/media-manipulation#BenefitsforBroadcaster

    http://www.trueactivist.com/exposed-governments-pay-news-networks-to-fake-stories-all-the-time/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsglbfZLc_0
    This is a short from the documentary "The Corporation", a film everyone should see which examines modern-day corporations, featuring interviews with corporate critics such as Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein and Howard Zinn. This shows 2 journalists fired from Fox News years ago for not agreeing to censor their report to comply with Monsanto's lawyers.
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    This is your government working and these are your news people that you believe without question or thought. Their hands are tied. They are forced to lie or they get fired. All of them, unless they are independent or international stations.
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited February 2015
    State Propaganda: How Government Agencies Produce Hundreds of Pre-Packaged TV Segments the Media Runs as News
    http://www.democracynow.org/2005/3/14/state_propaganda_how_government_agencies_produce
    According to a major expose in The New York Times, federal agencies under the Bush administration–from the State Department to Agriculture to the Transportation Security Administration–have been producing hundreds of pre-packaged TV segments that have been broadcast on local stations as real news. (Yes, it's OLD news, it's been going on for years)
    The article reports that at least 20 federal agencies–including the Defense Department and the Census Bureau–have distributed hundreds of television news segments in the past four years. Many were then broadcast on local stations without crediting the government as the source of the information.

    The article goes on to state that "the administration’s efforts to generate positive news coverage have been considerably more pervasive than previously known. At the same time, records and interviews suggest widespread complicity or negligence by television stations." Later the article says that "some reports were produced to support the administration’s most cherished policy objectives like regime change in Iraq and Medicare reform...They often feature quote, unquote "interviews" with senior administration officials in which questions are scripted and answers rehearsed. Critics are excluded as are any hints of controversy, waste or mismanagement."
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Well...I believe nothing blindly.

    As to BW...so he outright lied, "misremembered", or is a poor little puppet?

    People can refuse to have strings attached to their mouths, limbs and eyes. If it all is such a big conspiracy, then I don't have much sympathy for those who go along with it, perpetuate it, and speak it as if truth.

    Forced to lie or get fired...hmmm, not a tough decision to make. This lowly chick would choose the latter if I want to face myself every day.

    And, if not a marionette, then hold yourself accountable for your words and actions. People in the public eye are not absolved of this.
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited February 2015

    Believing nothing blindly comes from weighing all options. Did you check out Goodman's 20 min. video and read the links?
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited February 2015
    I don't have sympathy for BW, he chose to stay in a corrupt field. It's all his, but there's no doubt in my mind that NBC bosses told him to dramatize his stories. Or get fired. That's just how it is.

    And personally, I'm with you hedonist. My conscience would not handle working in a field where I was forced to compromise my values.
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  • SP96445
    SP96445 Posts: 215
    backseatLover12 wrote: »
    I don't have sympathy for BW, he chose to stay in a corrupt field. It's all his, but there's no doubt in my mind that NBC bosses told him to dramatize his stories. Or get fired. That's just how it is.

    I am not quite that cynical to think that BW was told or ordered to embellish his story by his bosses or the corporation
    I wonder though how many people who are outraged by Brian W. will vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 even though she was also caught lying about landing in Kosovo with bullets flying at her.
    Seems like a presidential candidate is more important than a new anchor
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    It has nothing to do with cynicism. It has to do with knowing exactly what the media is doing and not blindly trusting everything you see and hear. WAKE UP people. Do you own research if you like, but don't assume anything. That video posted above from The Corporation? Start There. Straight out of the mouths of former journalists.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    edited February 2015
    http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/j3ware/guardians-of-the-veracity
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,294
    Brian Williams Suspended From NBC for 6 Months Without Pay

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/business/media/brian-williams-suspended-by-nbc-news-for-six-months.html?_r=0
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    It’s Not Just Brian Williams... Inside the Media’s Lies that Led to Iraq War
    http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2015/2/10/its_not_just_brian_williams_inside
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I blame dick Cheney more than I blame any media outlet for that war.
  • davidtrios
    davidtrios Posts: 9,732
    Williams' replacement?

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