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Pd, very good points made indeed. I think it comes down to respect, which u mentioned. I don't think anyone has any issues with people having their own beliefs. It's the whole, "fuck your god" disrespect thrown around. Btw, I love that song (APC). I have no issues with anyone believing in anything they want. Wether it's a god or lizard or even nothing. I understand some people say things to sound cool. And that's fine, but they can't expect to have people respect them, even though they claim they do care. But on your points Pd, I hear ya. And your question is pretty damn good about what would happen now if Jesus came now. Very damn good question.
absolutely - whilst I have zero belief unfortunately in anything other than the world around me, I wouldn't ever want to purposefully look to fly in the face of someone else's belief or spiritual figure. There really isn't any need to do that, but personally I don't put the gods above anyone else for obvious reasons. In the same way I wouldn't wish to insult peoples families I wouldn't equally look to do so with gods.....but that isn't because I think they are untouchable symbols and figureheads and the creators of the world. So yeah its a simple issue of respect, and to respect Mohammed doesn't mean you have to support what he was or did, just that he is clearly very very important to a lot of people.
Religion hasn't aged well with time, and in that sense its truly sad that it causes so much pain and misery, oppression and brutality. When the story of Adam and Eve came about and the 7 days creation of the world in Christianity - how would the people who started that story ever have known that thousands of years later we would be finding dinasaurs that predated human history by literally tens of millions of years.....
Yet despite that, the teachings and the stories remain, locked in a period of time that is so grossly out of kilter with many things we now know, and really its impossible to update them which is why priests, vicars and the likes, now prefer to focus on the meanings and teachings rather than the literal events, loose concepts that do when treat in that way still remain relevant to modern society.
It speaks volumes when the current pope embraces evolution and the big bang theory.....0 -
Nart, this fight isn't worth having, I know you're bigger than that. In the real world you may be fighting ignorance on a massive scale across the USA, but on this board, the ignorants make up the minority, and you know you will always be defended here.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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100% Pd. How's this for being a Muslim. I'm starting a book on creationism called the 12th planet written by zecharia sitchen. Which goes against anything Islamic.0
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Thanks Ben, it's this damn sickness I have having to say something. I appreciate it Ben. When you coming to the city, the real city, not Toronto hahaha.0
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100% Pd. How's this for being a Muslim. I'm starting a book on creationism called the 12th planet written by zecharia sitchen. Which goes against anything Islamic.
That's awesome, you clearly keep an open mind when it comes to your faith, and live your life according to your own decisions and refuse to blindly follow a script. That I have every respect for.
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Thanks Ben, it's this damn sickness I have having to say something. I appreciate it Ben. When you coming to the city, the real city, not Toronto hahaha.
I'll get there eventually! In the middle of a major project for our family company, but I'm hoping to treat myself to a little vacation when it's wrapped up. Probably July at this rate.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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100% Pd. How's this for being a Muslim. I'm starting a book on creationism called the 12th planet written by zecharia sitchen. Which goes against anything Islamic.
That's awesome, you clearly keep an open mind when it comes to your faith, and live your life according to your own decisions and refuse to blindly follow a script. That I have every respect for.
Maybe that's the problem with religion, is the absence of a disclaimer at the end of each and every holy book: "This book is meant to guide one through a noble life. This book does not condone harm or punishment for not belonging to, betraying, or for leaving, this faith. If you do choose to inflict harm or to punish for not belonging to, or leaving, this faith, you are acting alone, and not in the name of your faith".'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha0 -
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Awesome - I made myself a promise that the new time the boys are playing MSG Im coming
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PD. If no MSG highly recommend Gorge if that happens. Right up there and worth another 4 hours in plane.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0
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How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.0 -
Mohammed married a 6 year old girl?
* I ask this of pd who mentioned it in a post of his on the other page.Post edited by Thirty Bills Unpaid on"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
You forgot the closer of them all RR, Taco Bells Fiery Hard Shell taco supreme...drop those puppies on them knuckleheads and wil all wars will end...plus it will make toilet paper more valuable than gold...lol
This is an excellent point Musky.I did forget about" heading for the border".I would be neglect to not add The 5$ Bucket of fried shit from KFC also.0 -
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
So... I'm hearing don't go to Katz's."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote: »How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
So... I'm hearing don't go to Katz's.
I guess just don't go for the service. I hear the food's fantastic regardless. Not that NYC has any shortage of fantastic places to eat.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote: »How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
So... I'm hearing don't go to Katz's.
I guess just don't go for the service. I hear the food's fantastic regardless. Not that NYC has any shortage of fantastic places to eat.
I don't do that out of principle. If a business is run by assholes, I prefer an alternative where they appreciate my business.
You said it: I'm doubtful the place has hoisted itself so far above others that the disrespect is worth it."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote: »Mohammed married a 6 year old girl?
* I ask this of pd who mentioned it in a post of his on the other page.
Yeah, depending on which account is to be believed (shia or Sunni) I believe the Sunni's have her down as his 'favourite wife' of the 9 he had. They believe he was buried at her house. The Shia have a different take.....
doesn't seem to be any question over the age though.
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Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote: »Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote: »How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
So... I'm hearing don't go to Katz's.
I guess just don't go for the service. I hear the food's fantastic regardless. Not that NYC has any shortage of fantastic places to eat.
I don't do that out of principle. If a business is run by assholes, I prefer an alternative where they appreciate my business.
You said it: I'm doubtful the place has hoisted itself so far above others that the disrespect is worth it.
Go to the Stage Deli.Just as good no attitude.0
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