Tried reading the article, stopped when I saw the quote,"you should all respect and honor him." Sorry, I have no respect for anyone who enjoys killing people and then brags about it. But who the fuck am I? Nobody so it doesn't matter.
I read the article. It's hard to comment on the man's perspective with anything more than pure speculation; wasn't there. In my own experience I have bitten my tongue with co-workers many times on my true feelings about issues simply to get along. In a kill or be killed environment, I would think that method would be easy to adapt for anyone.
I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
All this nihilism talk got me really thinking about where I might fall on that spectrum, and I guess I'd have to say I'm some sort of utopian. For the purposes of the thread, I'll try and focus more on my view of how the military might fit in and hence hopefully explain more fully why I would proudly call myself a freedom sheep (though being an Aries, I'll go with freedom ram instead, lol).
I guess overall I'd hope we could work towards some sort of quasi-Marxist society devoted towards the pursuit of art and science. However, even if global peace were acheived, I would still see the maintenance of a standing military, under the control of whatever global government might arise. The purposes of this would be several, but first I'll mention the way I see said military being raised: between high school and college/university, I would see all able-bodied people (those incapable could be found other tasks or services to perform) serve for 2 years, and certainly those who would continue their military service wouldn't be dissuaded from doing so (hopefully creating an effective base of career/veteran officers and NCOs to ensure the consistent functioning of the military). I think this would also benefit the individual in ensuring that some degree of self-discipline can be instilled, as well as further indoctrinating the individual to pursue the "greater good" for society as a whole.
Now, as to the roles this standing military would fulfil. The primary purpose would obviously be to ensure the safety and security of all communities (for instance, if a slaughter were to begin, troops could theoretically be quickly deployed from the surrounding countries to put an end to it). Essentially, peacekeeping would be the primary purpose, possibly by, for instance, having Canadians perform their service in Russia, and vice versa, to try and ensure the neutrality of troops being deployed in a given situation.
Another benefit of maintaining armed forces could be the instant availability of a large labour force in the event of natural disasters and the like. It might also help in the mitigation of damage during, say, hurricanes, by having many more bodies on hand to contribute to precautionary measures.
I would still see the military train for combat roles (with the hope such training ultimately proves unnecessary), in part for any peacekeeping operations that might arise, or, as silly as it might sound, as a "just-in-case" for if the aliens do show up and prove hostile (hopefully it wouldn't play out like Mars Attacks!, lol).
So, in a nutshell, that's why (in part) why I'll proudly identify as a freedom sheep, or freedom ram, lol. Then again, I also see a benevolent dictatorship as one of the most effective means of government, lol.
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
Thanks for your contribution DM. Since a quasi-marxist society has some appeal to you, may I suggest investigating the Z-team. One day.....only hope it won't be to late.
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
BS - Interesting article and perspective, think I might have to make a point to catch the movie sometime this week.
Tedd - Thanks for the input, I'll check it out and possibly post my reactions/thoughts here later.
As an (off-topic) aside, I realized cheering for the Seahawks today because of Pearl Jam is no different from Diane on Cheers making her pics based on uniform colours, lol. All the same, screw it, go Seahawks, lol!
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
Raed Jaser, one of two men charged in the alleged 2012 plot, told an undercover FBI agent the train attack would only result in the killing of “a few sheep,” Crown attorney Croft Michaelson told the jury in his opening address Monday.
Instead, Mr. Jaser allegedly wanted to hire a sniper — or learn to shoot a sniper rifle himself — to assassinate Canadian leaders.
“We don’t want the sheep,” Mr. Jaser allegedly told the agent. “We want the wolf. We can get the wolf, brother. We can get the wolf.”
I guess this Freedom sheep term is more clever then we thought
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/31/american-sniper-chris-kyle-defended-against-msnbc-/
I guess overall I'd hope we could work towards some sort of quasi-Marxist society devoted towards the pursuit of art and science. However, even if global peace were acheived, I would still see the maintenance of a standing military, under the control of whatever global government might arise. The purposes of this would be several, but first I'll mention the way I see said military being raised: between high school and college/university, I would see all able-bodied people (those incapable could be found other tasks or services to perform) serve for 2 years, and certainly those who would continue their military service wouldn't be dissuaded from doing so (hopefully creating an effective base of career/veteran officers and NCOs to ensure the consistent functioning of the military). I think this would also benefit the individual in ensuring that some degree of self-discipline can be instilled, as well as further indoctrinating the individual to pursue the "greater good" for society as a whole.
Now, as to the roles this standing military would fulfil. The primary purpose would obviously be to ensure the safety and security of all communities (for instance, if a slaughter were to begin, troops could theoretically be quickly deployed from the surrounding countries to put an end to it). Essentially, peacekeeping would be the primary purpose, possibly by, for instance, having Canadians perform their service in Russia, and vice versa, to try and ensure the neutrality of troops being deployed in a given situation.
Another benefit of maintaining armed forces could be the instant availability of a large labour force in the event of natural disasters and the like. It might also help in the mitigation of damage during, say, hurricanes, by having many more bodies on hand to contribute to precautionary measures.
I would still see the military train for combat roles (with the hope such training ultimately proves unnecessary), in part for any peacekeeping operations that might arise, or, as silly as it might sound, as a "just-in-case" for if the aliens do show up and prove hostile (hopefully it wouldn't play out like Mars Attacks!, lol).
So, in a nutshell, that's why (in part) why I'll proudly identify as a freedom sheep, or freedom ram, lol. Then again, I also see a benevolent dictatorship as one of the most effective means of government, lol.
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Tedd - Thanks for the input, I'll check it out and possibly post my reactions/thoughts here later.
As an (off-topic) aside, I realized cheering for the Seahawks today because of Pearl Jam is no different from Diane on Cheers making her pics based on uniform colours, lol. All the same, screw it, go Seahawks, lol!
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
The money quote comes a couple sentences down
Raed Jaser, one of two men charged in the alleged 2012 plot, told an undercover FBI agent the train attack would only result in the killing of “a few sheep,” Crown attorney Croft Michaelson told the jury in his opening address Monday.
Instead, Mr. Jaser allegedly wanted to hire a sniper — or learn to shoot a sniper rifle himself — to assassinate Canadian leaders.
“We don’t want the sheep,” Mr. Jaser allegedly told the agent. “We want the wolf. We can get the wolf, brother. We can get the wolf.”
I guess this Freedom sheep term is more clever then we thought