Vault #4, what's the verdict?

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    Got mine a few minutes ago. After more beer consumption, cartoons and the little one goes to bed, I will light a candle till it burns up my arm and enjoy. With a bit of trepidation that there's no skips or damage, but fingers are crossed.

    If I remember I'll write how it goes
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  • dayday
    dayday Michigan, USA Posts: 93
    i'm disappointed. surface noise is bad from beginning to end. pearl jam records lately are always noisy and that's disheartening when i buy so many other records that are quiet. two of these discs also have scratches or smudges on them. otherwise the package itself is beautiful. the show was average at best.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,199
    Very impressed by the package but as others have mentioned the actual show is average. It's the least memorable vault release.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Mine plays flawlessly from beginning to end, and not even one split sleeve. No surface noise whatsoever, though there are a few times where it sounds like some amp hum is picked up on the recording, but that has nothing to do with the quality of the vinyl. Overall great sound quality for what it is. I've never really been blown away by live vinyl and this is as good as any.

    I find that the performance is pretty good, but there a few moments where Ed gets lost lyrically. Go being the worst offender. Love this era of live PJ....the guitar tones are the best they ever had and this stage in Ed's evolution is my favorite.
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061
    Out of curiosity, what did these vault 4 vinyls originally cost including shipping?
  • H.Chinaski
    H.Chinaski Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,600
    Package and packaging on this was great. But sadly there is tons of surface noise and tons of pops on almost every song.
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  • derbydave
    derbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    edited January 2015
    Sarava wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what did these vault 4 vinyls originally cost including shipping?
    US Order:
    PEARL JAM - BELLINGHAM - 5/10/2000
    VAULT SHOW #4 - VINYL PRESALE
    (6430-VINYL)
    Sub Total: $50.00
    Mail Innovations Standard Domestic Shipping: $12.99
    Total: $62.99
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    '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
    '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
    '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    edited January 2015
    dayday wrote: »
    i'm disappointed. surface noise is bad from beginning to end. pearl jam records lately are always noisy and that's disheartening when i buy so many other records that are quiet. two of these discs also have scratches or smudges on them. otherwise the package itself is beautiful. the show was average at best.
    Many reports of this, just like with LB.

    10C, please, I'm begging you. Find a top notch manufacturer!!! Great quality is SOOOO much more important than speed! I'd be willing to wait as many months as it takes if you start using a good press with a long waiting list.
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  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    mcgruff10 wrote: »
    Sadly this is the first vault I have zero interest in buying. I really wish pj would have picked another year since we already have 72 quality boots from 2000. Seems like they got a little lazy on this one.

    you do realize that there are only 1500 seats in that theater and you couldn't buy tickets to that show.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    edited January 2015
    RKCNDY wrote: »
    mcgruff10 wrote: »
    Sadly this is the first vault I have zero interest in buying. I really wish pj would have picked another year since we already have 72 quality boots from 2000. Seems like they got a little lazy on this one.

    you do realize that there are only 1500 seats in that theater and you couldn't buy tickets to that show.

    would have been incredible to be at such an intimate show at that stage in their career. My first show was 1993 and it was with 49,999 other people!

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  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    paulonious wrote: »
    RKCNDY wrote: »
    mcgruff10 wrote: »
    Sadly this is the first vault I have zero interest in buying. I really wish pj would have picked another year since we already have 72 quality boots from 2000. Seems like they got a little lazy on this one.

    you do realize that there are only 1500 seats in that theater and you couldn't buy tickets to that show.

    would have been incredible to be at such an intimate show at that stage in their career. My first show was 1993 and it was with 49,999 other people!

    it was an incredible show. I was never able to go to any of the shows in the 90s despite living in Seattle...Bellingham was my first show.
    I would love to get the vinyl signed.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    did you ever see Mad Season or AIC?
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    Side A is pretty bad. Lots of pops and crackles on NAIS and a skip in God's Dice. So far I want a replacement or my money back.
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  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    paulonious wrote: »
    did you ever see Mad Season or AIC?

    no, I lived in the boonies, and had transportation issues. I did see Nirvana, their last Seattle performance. Saw SG at Bumbershoot in 90 something.
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    - Christopher McCandless
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    RKCNDY wrote: »
    mcgruff10 wrote: »
    Sadly this is the first vault I have zero interest in buying. I really wish pj would have picked another year since we already have 72 quality boots from 2000. Seems like they got a little lazy on this one.

    you do realize that there are only 1500 seats in that theater and you couldn't buy tickets to that show.
    fully aware it was a small show. I've had this bootleg for years and it's a average show. There's got to be 20+ shows that are better in 2000 than this one. It would have been nice for them to have picked something from 93 to 96.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061
    derbydave wrote: »
    Sarava wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what did these vault 4 vinyls originally cost including shipping?
    US Order:
    PEARL JAM - BELLINGHAM - 5/10/2000
    VAULT SHOW #4 - VINYL PRESALE
    (6430-VINYL)
    Sub Total: $50.00
    Mail Innovations Standard Domestic Shipping: $12.99
    Total: $62.99

    Thanks! :)

    I didn't have a turntable before, so I didn't order one. I was wondering how much I'm losing by buying on ebay now. It's not as bad as I thought.
  • derbydave
    derbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    Sarava wrote: »
    derbydave wrote: »
    Sarava wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what did these vault 4 vinyls originally cost including shipping?
    US Order:
    PEARL JAM - BELLINGHAM - 5/10/2000
    VAULT SHOW #4 - VINYL PRESALE
    (6430-VINYL)
    Sub Total: $50.00
    Mail Innovations Standard Domestic Shipping: $12.99
    Total: $62.99

    Thanks! :)

    I didn't have a turntable before, so I didn't order one. I was wondering how much I'm losing by buying on ebay now. It's not as bad as I thought.

    Happy to help :-bd
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    '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
    '00: Columbus: Polaris
    '03: Columbus: Germain
    '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
    '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
    '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
    '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
    '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
    '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
    '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
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  • lexicondevil
    lexicondevil Posts: 2,246
    Shipping packaging was great, but that did nothing for the scratch from edge to label on side A. Poor handling of the records. Overall sound seems a little flat to me.
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  • No one's rival
    No one's rival Posts: 241
    Listening to it right now. Sounds great to me. No problems at all.
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  • joberschlake
    joberschlake Columbus, OH Posts: 1,179
    I heard back from 10c. Here's what they had to say:

    Please break the damaged vinyl into bits, send an image, and we will send replacements.
    10c
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    2004: Toledo
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    2010: Columbus, Indianapolis, Cleveland
    2011: Detroit EV, Chicago 1 EV
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: Chicago, Pittsburgh
    2014: Cincinnati

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