Do Aliens Exist?

dignin

Yes

Cliffy6745 said:

dignin said:

23scidoo said:

https://youtu.be/tf1uLwUTDA0

https://youtu.be/6rWOtrke0HY

Some articles to go along with those videos.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-flying-object-navy.html

I have been thinking about these articles for 24 hours straight.  Just amazing stuff that I don't know how it's not being talked about.

It really is pretty astounding. 

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

https://youtu.be/vLfkDJPoGGI

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

http://www.phils.com.au/hill.htm

brianlux

Yes

For a species to be able to travel to our planet, they would have to have intelligence and technology far advanced of ours.  So if there are aliens from another world here, why would they not have used their intelligence to either clear us out of the way or show us how to solve our problems or do something with their time here in a big way?  Why would they just hang around all these years?  And since they would have to be super advanced in intelligence and technology, one would have to assume that they would know how not to be seen, so why would there these "sightings" occasional  occur?  Doesn't that seen highly unlikely?  Alien's presence here make no sense whatsoever.

brianlux

Yes

P.S.  My answer should read "no".

CM189191

X-Files says yes. 

btw new X-Files tonight

brianlux

Yes

CM189191 said:

X-Files says yes. 

btw new X-Files tonight

Let us know how they are.  I'm still working on Q-Files. 

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

brianlux said:

For a species to be able to travel to our planet, they would have to have intelligence and technology far advanced of ours.  So if there are aliens from another world here, why would they not have used their intelligence to either clear us out of the way or show us how to solve our problems or do something with their time here in a big way?  Why would they just hang around all these years?  And since they would have to be super advanced in intelligence and technology, one would have to assume that they would know how not to be seen, so why would there these "sightings" occasional  occur?  Doesn't that seen highly unlikely?  Alien's presence here make no sense whatsoever.

This is how the humans thinking..they are far intelligence from us, we can't understand their intentions..

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

brianlux said:

P.S.  My answer should read "no".

Really? No? You think there is absolutely no other life in the universe? Earth is just that special? I'm surprised that you would think that Brian.

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

brianlux said:

For a species to be able to travel to our planet, they would have to have intelligence and technology far advanced of ours.  So if there are aliens from another world here, why would they not have used their intelligence to either clear us out of the way or show us how to solve our problems or do something with their time here in a big way?  Why would they just hang around all these years?  And since they would have to be super advanced in intelligence and technology, one would have to assume that they would know how not to be seen, so why would there these "sightings" occasional  occur?  Doesn't that seen highly unlikely?  Alien's presence here make no sense whatsoever.

What if they just want to observe? Or for any number of other reasons you haven't considered? As 23scidoo said, you're applying human logic to non-humans. that is what makes no sense IMO.

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

to sound totally ridiculous and stupid, Brian, I would say that maybe the Star Trek philosophy would apply here: to not interfere with the existence of other species/planets unless absolutely necessary. I would imagine a higher intelligent being would understand the importance of letting shit play out on its own, as opposed to how humans approach things. 

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

HughFreakingDillon said:

to sound totally ridiculous and stupid, Brian, I would say that maybe the Star Trek philosophy would apply here: to not interfere with the existence of other species/planets unless absolutely necessary. I would imagine a higher intelligent being would understand the importance of letting shit play out on its own, as opposed to how humans approach things. 

Given how much Star Trek has already influenced scientific efforts so far, and given the excellent ideals it sets up for us to consider in the future, I think referencing it as a point of a consideration makes perfect sense. Yeah, that does sound ridiculous, but it's still true, lol.

brianlux

Yes

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

P.S.  My answer should read "no".

Really? No? You think there is absolutely no other life in the universe? Earth is just that special? I'm surprised that you would think that Brian.

Oh oops!  I mean, no, I don't think they are here on earth. 

As for out there?  I used to think the chances were excellent but having watched several of the Brian Cox series regarding the universe I'm not as sure.  I'll try to find the exact segment that gave me some doubts.

brianlux

Yes

HughFreakingDillon said:

to sound totally ridiculous and stupid, Brian, I would say that maybe the Star Trek philosophy would apply here: to not interfere with the existence of other species/planets unless absolutely necessary. I would imagine a higher intelligent being would understand the importance of letting shit play out on its own, as opposed to how humans approach things. 

That would be good advice, HFD.  And again, if an alien species were advanced enough to get here, they would probably understand just that and, if following that philosophy,  would also be super highly unlikely to allow themselves to be seen.  That's why I believe all of these sightings are anything but "aliens".

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Maybe they just don't have cloaking technology yet.

brianlux

Yes

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe they just don't have cloaking technology yet.

LOL!  They need to pay more attention to Star Trek!

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

to sound totally ridiculous and stupid, Brian, I would say that maybe the Star Trek philosophy would apply here: to not interfere with the existence of other species/planets unless absolutely necessary. I would imagine a higher intelligent being would understand the importance of letting shit play out on its own, as opposed to how humans approach things. 

That would be good advice, HFD.  And again, if an alien species were advanced enough to get here, they would probably understand just that and, if following that philosophy,  would also be super highly unlikely to allow themselves to be seen.  That's why I believe all of these sightings are anything but "aliens".

I think we tend to think of an alien race as all the same, as one intelligent collective, but maybe, in reality, they are just like us; they have technology and are highly evolved, but the spectrum of intelligence among them is a larger spectrum that we think, there are still idiots who shoot themselves in the foot, or, in their case, let themselves be seen. 

brianlux

Yes

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

to sound totally ridiculous and stupid, Brian, I would say that maybe the Star Trek philosophy would apply here: to not interfere with the existence of other species/planets unless absolutely necessary. I would imagine a higher intelligent being would understand the importance of letting shit play out on its own, as opposed to how humans approach things. 

That would be good advice, HFD.  And again, if an alien species were advanced enough to get here, they would probably understand just that and, if following that philosophy,  would also be super highly unlikely to allow themselves to be seen.  That's why I believe all of these sightings are anything but "aliens".

I think we tend to think of an alien race as all the same, as one intelligent collective, but maybe, in reality, they are just like us; they have technology and are highly evolved, but the spectrum of intelligence among them is a larger spectrum that we think, there are still idiots who shoot themselves in the foot, or, in their case, let themselves be seen. 

Good point!  I'd like to see a good sci fi flick with a plot revolves around an orange haired idiot who screws things up royally for the rest of the intergalactic crew.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Stupid China..

https://youtu.be/ge_sMw8AQ3o

RYME

No

I'm off topic for a second.
Didn't know where else to put this.
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