Do Aliens Exist?

joseph33

No

Nope. UFO's are grouped in with haunted houses. The fact is is that we are alone and the human mind makes up the hypothetical,so that life isn't as mundane as what it is. But that's just my opinion,believe what you will as will I.

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

joseph33 said:

Nope. UFO's are grouped in with haunted houses. The fact is is that we are alone and the human mind makes up the hypothetical,so that life isn't as mundane as what it is. But that's just my opinion,believe what you will as will I.

UFOs aren't the same as the existence of alien life though, and haunted houses aren't really comparable to the nature of the universe. I'm not trying to convince you, I'm just saying that your comparison doesn't really work unless you really are limiting your comment to "UFOs" as opposed to alien life existing.

mace1229

Yes

joseph33 said:

Nope. UFO's are grouped in with haunted houses. The fact is is that we are alone and the human mind makes up the hypothetical,so that life isn't as mundane as what it is. But that's just my opinion,believe what you will as will I.

Wouldn't technically a secret foreign spy plane be a UFO?

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

mace1229 said:

joseph33 said:

Nope. UFO's are grouped in with haunted houses. The fact is is that we are alone and the human mind makes up the hypothetical,so that life isn't as mundane as what it is. But that's just my opinion,believe what you will as will I.

Wouldn't technically a secret foreign spy plane be a UFO?

Well, yeah, but in the context of this thread I think we all understand what he means.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-science-space/breaking-news-scientists-reveal-mysterious-and-explosive-signals-are-definitely-021311?nopaging=1

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

http://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-ancient-writings/ufos-over-ancient-egypt-revealing-mysterious-story-tulli-papyrus-007851?nopaging=1

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

http://theconversation.com/aliens-very-strange-universes-and-brexit-martin-rees-qanda-75277

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-to-reveal-new-discoveries-in-news-conference-on-oceans-beyond-earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_vxerBnrS8

RYME

No

What if there is a parallel dimension that you get a peek into sometimes?
(Who knows when or why) But they aren't alliens from outer space, but actual beings right here next to you in a different dimension. Hmmmm?

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

RYME said:

What if there is a parallel dimension that you get a peek into sometimes?
(Who knows when or why) But they aren't alliens from outer space, but actual beings right here next to you in a different dimension. Hmmmm?

The scientist are talking for 10 dimensions..can you imagine??

http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/what-did-ancients-see-unidentified-flying-objects-made-impact-early-history-021327?nopaging=1

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

mace1229 said:

One reason I believe they never visited is just the physics behind it. Most stars within our galaxy are hundreds if not thousands of light years away. So even if they hopped into the Millennium Falcum it would take lifetimes to travel here.
So I would have to believe they have either created a way to travel faster than what is even to believe to be possible making the speed of light seem slow (realizing our fastest speed record is just a very tiny fraction of the speed of light) or their lifespan is so long that they don't mind spending thousands of years in travel (assuming they are still going at light speed)
And they have managed to do all that, visit and leave no trace, our let our CIA outsmart them in a coverup.

Or....they just never visited. Which seems more plausible?

this. if they have the technology to travel here, there's no way our feeble human governments would be able to hide it.

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

or they live on a planet that orbits the sun directly across from earth so we never see it and don't know it's there. LOL

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/797986/Aliens-came-Earth-before-humans-claims-scientist-Professor-Jason-Wright

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Maybe they have learned how to use worm holes to travel or something. We really can't assume anything about some distant alien life form and what kind of science they are dealing with. It's entirely possible that what's normal to them in completely inconceivable to us. Or that they have billions of years on us, and understand the physics of space in a way we can't even imagine. Humans are forced to apply human knowledge and theories to alien life, but I don't know if that is reasonable in the slightest. We might be extremely primitive lifeforms compared to other lifeforms in the universe, considering how young the Earth is in universe terms.

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe they have learned how to use worm holes to travel or something. We really can't assume anything about some distance alien life form and what kind of science they are dealing with. It's entirely possible that what's normal to them in completely inconceivable to us. Or that they have billions of years on us, and understand the physics of space in a way we can't even imagine. Humans are forced to apply human knowledge and theories to alien life, but I don't know if that is reasonable in the slightest. We might be extremely primitive lifeforms compared to other lifeforms in the universe, considering how young the Earth is in universe terms.

absolutely, 100%.

one aspect of aliens as humans see them that has always been funny to me, is the assumption by humans that they look like us. two legs, two arms, head, just smaller bodies and bigger eyes, etc. it is totally conceivable to me that we can't even fucking see them, our eyes can't understand that we are looking at something that is right there. there are many things we know that we can't see with the naked human eye, it's entirely plausible that other living things are one of those things. 

HesCalledDyer

Yes

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe they have learned how to use worm holes to travel or something. We really can't assume anything about some distance alien life form and what kind of science they are dealing with. It's entirely possible that what's normal to them in completely inconceivable to us. Or that they have billions of years on us, and understand the physics of space in a way we can't even imagine. Humans are forced to apply human knowledge and theories to alien life, but I don't know if that is reasonable in the slightest. We might be extremely primitive lifeforms compared to other lifeforms in the universe, considering how young the Earth is in universe terms.

absolutely, 100%.

one aspect of aliens as humans see them that has always been funny to me, is the assumption by humans that they look like us. two legs, two arms, head, just smaller bodies and bigger eyes, etc. it is totally conceivable to me that we can't even fucking see them, our eyes can't understand that we are looking at something that is right there. there are many things we know that we can't see with the naked human eye, it's entirely plausible that other living things are one of those things. 

Jackpot!

Just in terms of dimensions, it is very possible that alien life could be 4-dimensional (or even more) beings.  We, as humans, have no way of knowing what a 4th physical dimension may look like.  We often accept the 4th dimension as "time" but this may not even be true.  We can hypothesize, but as 3-dimensionl beings, we will never truly know. 
Think about a 2-dimension object - a square, for instance.  If a 3-dimensional cube were to pass through that square, the square would not be able to interpret the cube's 3rd dimension.  It would only ever be able to tell the 2-dimensions intersecting with it.  Same as a 1-dimensional line would not be able to interpet the square if the square intersected it, and a ought-dimensional point would not be able to determine the line.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4513952/Cold-Spot-space-prove-multiverse-theory.html

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Just came upon this story - I'd never heard about it before, but it is supposedly a famous one. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/falcon-lake-incident-book-anniversary-1.4121639


FWIW, my sister, brother in law, and some of their friends were out on a boat in a lake near Winnipeg maybe 5 years ago, and they very uncharacteristically said they all saw a UFO. My sister and especially my bro-in-law who is almost painfully logical and level-headed, are not people to believe in such a thing or humour a fantasy, but they definitely couldn't explain what they saw and it wasn't the kind of sighting that could have been swamp gas or whateverthefuck. They were all totally stunned and freaked out, apparently.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

^^very interesting..

my2hands

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Don't forget the former Canadian Minister of Defense, Paul Hellyer, that's states matter of factly that aliens exist, have visited earth, are here currently, and that it is actively being covered up by governments 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051151/Governments-HIDING-aliens-claims-former-defence-minister-Paul-Hellyer-urges-world-leaders-reveal-secret-files.html