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Do Aliens Exist?

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    Yes
    it's as simple as being in your back yard and looking up at an airplane and realizing why it looks like it's flying "down" the farther it gets. 
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    dankind said:
    Or summited a coastal mountain.

    And it doesn't even have to be right on the coast. On a clear day, you can see the curvature all the way from Mt. Katahdin, which is about 100 miles west of the Atlantic.

    One of the only things I liked about the trip home from Alaska was watching other ships far out going over the horizon.  They always looked like they were turning sideways.  You could also see the curvature of the earth from the wheelhouse.
    But did you ever see those ships again? 


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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Yes

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    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    I saw a UFO 🛸 once. Over 20 years ago. It was triangular with an orange light in the middle and white orbiting lights at each corner (those are hard to explain, never seen lights like that before or since). It moved across the sky quickly but silently, hovered for a few seconds and disappeared by flying across the sky in an instant. I was not drunk or high, and there was another witness. 

    I’m willing to admit that it might not have been extraterrestrial. Maybe just some top secret military experimental aircraft. But in the truest sense of the words, it was an unidentified flying object.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    dankind said:
    Or summited a coastal mountain.

    And it doesn't even have to be right on the coast. On a clear day, you can see the curvature all the way from Mt. Katahdin, which is about 100 miles west of the Atlantic.

    One of the only things I liked about the trip home from Alaska was watching other ships far out going over the horizon.  They always looked like they were turning sideways.  You could also see the curvature of the earth from the wheelhouse.
    But did you ever see those ships again? 

    Or birds? Exactly!
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    Yes
    dankind said:
    Or summited a coastal mountain.

    And it doesn't even have to be right on the coast. On a clear day, you can see the curvature all the way from Mt. Katahdin, which is about 100 miles west of the Atlantic.

    One of the only things I liked about the trip home from Alaska was watching other ships far out going over the horizon.  They always looked like they were turning sideways.  You could also see the curvature of the earth from the wheelhouse.
    But did you ever see those ships again? 

    Or birds? Exactly!
    Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?  That’s because   there aren’t any 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    dankind said:
    Or summited a coastal mountain.

    And it doesn't even have to be right on the coast. On a clear day, you can see the curvature all the way from Mt. Katahdin, which is about 100 miles west of the Atlantic.

    One of the only things I liked about the trip home from Alaska was watching other ships far out going over the horizon.  They always looked like they were turning sideways.  You could also see the curvature of the earth from the wheelhouse.
    But did you ever see those ships again? 

    Or birds? Exactly!
    Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?  That’s because   there aren’t any 
    That’s what made me a believer! I’ve been to many a city and many a plaza with people feeding the “pigeons” and not once in my life time, anywhere or anytime, in any environment, have I seen a baby pigeon. Never. Like invisible rats!
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,722
    Yes
    dankind said:
    Or summited a coastal mountain.

    And it doesn't even have to be right on the coast. On a clear day, you can see the curvature all the way from Mt. Katahdin, which is about 100 miles west of the Atlantic.

    One of the only things I liked about the trip home from Alaska was watching other ships far out going over the horizon.  They always looked like they were turning sideways.  You could also see the curvature of the earth from the wheelhouse.
    But did you ever see those ships again? 

    Or birds? Exactly!
    Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?  That’s because   there aren’t any 

    dankind said:
    Or summited a coastal mountain.

    And it doesn't even have to be right on the coast. On a clear day, you can see the curvature all the way from Mt. Katahdin, which is about 100 miles west of the Atlantic.

    One of the only things I liked about the trip home from Alaska was watching other ships far out going over the horizon.  They always looked like they were turning sideways.  You could also see the curvature of the earth from the wheelhouse.
    But did you ever see those ships again? 

    Or birds? Exactly!
    Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?  That’s because   there aren’t any 
    That’s what made me a believer! I’ve been to many a city and many a plaza with people feeding the “pigeons” and not once in my life time, anywhere or anytime, in any environment, have I seen a baby pigeon. Never. Like invisible rats!

    You guys nailed it.  There are no baby pigeons because (thread integrity!) pigeons are aliens.  The disguise themselves with bird feather costumes.  Here's rare photo of one of the aliens without their bird feather costume on:
    Here is Why You Havent Seen a Baby Pigeon Before and How Adorable They Are

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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 9,883
    dankind said:
    Or summited a coastal mountain.

    And it doesn't even have to be right on the coast. On a clear day, you can see the curvature all the way from Mt. Katahdin, which is about 100 miles west of the Atlantic.

    One of the only things I liked about the trip home from Alaska was watching other ships far out going over the horizon.  They always looked like they were turning sideways.  You could also see the curvature of the earth from the wheelhouse.
    But did you ever see those ships again? 

    Or birds? Exactly!
    Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?  That’s because   there aren’t any 
    That’s what made me a believer! I’ve been to many a city and many a plaza with people feeding the “pigeons” and not once in my life time, anywhere or anytime, in any environment, have I seen a baby pigeon. Never. Like invisible rats!
    There was a pigeon that built a nest in the courtyard behind my building. I did see it sitting on some eggs. But come to think of it I never saw the eggs hatch or the hatchlings. Ooohhh. 
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Yes, and they have visited Earth

    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    Yes
    23scidoo said:

    The Catholic Church in particular has prepared for it.  As in,  it doesn’t/won’t disprove the existence of god.

    the fact their position is sort of preparing for the inevitability Vs automatically saying it’s not possible is interesting.  They also have pretty extensive observatories and scientists who are also priests.

    out of any major religion they are in a unique position to actually know if something has been found  
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    cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,401
    Yes
    23scidoo said:

    The Catholic Church in particular has prepared for it.  As in,  it doesn’t/won’t disprove the existence of god.

    the fact their position is sort of preparing for the inevitability Vs automatically saying it’s not possible is interesting.  They also have pretty extensive observatories and scientists who are also priests.

    out of any major religion they are in a unique position to actually know if something has been found  
    This is interesting….feels like a ccd class!  I never knew this!  
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    Yes
    23scidoo said:

    The Catholic Church in particular has prepared for it.  As in,  it doesn’t/won’t disprove the existence of god.

    the fact their position is sort of preparing for the inevitability Vs automatically saying it’s not possible is interesting.  They also have pretty extensive observatories and scientists who are also priests.

    out of any major religion they are in a unique position to actually know if something has been found  
    This is interesting….feels like a ccd class!  I never knew this!  
    One of the instruments for the  LBT (large binocular telescope) at mount graham international observatory in Arizona was called the  Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research (LUCIFER).  

    It was apparently a scandal and the Vatican made them change the name to LUCI 

    the Vatican operates the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) at the same facility 

    they may be scientists but they are still catholic 😂
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,827
    23scidoo said:

    The Catholic Church in particular has prepared for it.  As in,  it doesn’t/won’t disprove the existence of god.

    the fact their position is sort of preparing for the inevitability Vs automatically saying it’s not possible is interesting.  They also have pretty extensive observatories and scientists who are also priests.

    out of any major religion they are in a unique position to actually know if something has been found  
    I once went to a talk by the Vatican astronomer, Guy Consolmagno,  and it was fascinating. 
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    23scidoo said:


    what a far out fit, man. weird ...
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    Classic..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    https://youtu.be/ItRiw2HwvF0
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    Yes
    it's all very compelling. I just can't imagine a species that has the technology to get here, 500 million years ahead of our evolution, and remain only "captured" by people in our government. it just doesn't add up. 
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    https://youtu.be/ZSj7QsHRxHQ
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,509
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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