President Obama FREE 2 year community college

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    72 hours a week.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    You can have all the money in the world but you can't buy more time.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    rgambs wrote: »
    72 hours a week.

    gotta make hay while the sun shines.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    That's working almost double a regular work week, which makes it much less impressive. If a person devotes a proportional amount of their time to their family and life, they won't be making that kind of money in the trades...They will make plenty to live off of though, and I fully support trade school training. I do not care for these sensational stories in this vein that pop up now and then, they are just as bad as the ones that over estimate the value of a liberal arts degree. I really hope trade school training is wrapped up in this deal!
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  • rgambs wrote: »

    Student loan reform and reigning in the ridiculous cost of university education are what we really need.

    This. The insane prices of 4 year college (even if you go to a state school) and student loan interest rates are the real problem. I was lucky enough that my parents were able to pay for about half of my college. But I'm still paying student loans at the age of 31 and I will be paying for several more years. I got in at a decent interest rate so it hasn't killed me, but I never thought I'd still be paying student loans in my 30s.

    I can't even imagine the people that have had to take out loans for the entirety of their college education. So many people are crippled with debt from these loans...it's sad. But, college prices continue to soar with no end in sight.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    rgambs wrote: »

    Student loan reform and reigning in the ridiculous cost of university education are what we really need.

    This. The insane prices of 4 year college (even if you go to a state school) and student loan interest rates are the real problem. I was lucky enough that my parents were able to pay for about half of my college. But I'm still paying student loans at the age of 31 and I will be paying for several more years. I got in at a decent interest rate so it hasn't killed me, but I never thought I'd still be paying student loans in my 30s.

    I can't even imagine the people that have had to take out loans for the entirety of their college education. So many people are crippled with debt from these loans...it's sad. But, college prices continue to soar with no end in sight.

    Whoa- no shit. Check this out:

    In 1969 I enrolled as a California resident in 15 units at San Francisco State University. My total tuition fees were $50.00 Yes, that's right FIFTY DOLLARS. Using an on-line inflation calculator, those fees today, if changed only through inflation, would be $328.24 for 15 units. In fact, a full load of 15 units at that same school today will cost and undergraduate California resident $2736.00. In other words, tuition at that school- adjusted for inflation- is more than 8 times what it was 45 years ago. And this does not include various other campus fees which are much higher as well. I suspect going to college today is easily 10 times more expensive overall than it was in my short life time ago.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Yessir. It is easy to see why folks from about 32 yrs old down get pretty frustrated with anyone over 40 who boasts of putting themselves through school. It is arrogant and damn frustrating, even doctors and lawyers are paying twice what their bosses did for school and starting with wages not much higher, if at all higher, than their bosses started with. It is a big problem, especially for professionals!
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,896
    Sounds like a great idea....no one ever complains about the quality or funding of a public education, it only makes sense to expand on it.

    And for equal comparison for what 72 hours a week gets you with a 4 year business degree. 1 year out of college I had friends go into major corporations and start at entry-level jobs with $25 an hour.

    72 hours a week times 52 weeks a year is 3744 hours.
    2080 hours would be regular pay; 1664 would be time and-a-half
    52,000 in regular pay plus 62,400 in time-and-a-half would give you a starting annual wage of $114,400.

    Moreover, after earning 4 years of progressive experience in a white collar job your income starts to accelerate and your earnings potential becomes virtually limitless.

    The problem with a lot of blue collars jobs is after about 6 years, if you don't turn self-employed, your earnings potential gets maxed out. Meaning, the only way Justin Friend can sustain earning 130,000-140,000 a year will be with 72-80 work weeks for the rest of his work life....hope it's worth it.
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