President Obama FREE 2 year community college

badbrains
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Prob gonna make a bunch of your heads explode now.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    What exactly would be the plan to fund this? I think that could be a great plan because everyone can enter into a four college after high or otherwise. This country needs more opportunities to educate its students in order lessen those who are living in poverty or just cant afford a four year college.

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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    I'm sure the GOP already hate the idea.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    If this is funded by anything other than lottery money, Obama should be arrested.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2015
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    If this is funded by anything other than lottery money, Obama should be arrested.

    Why?

    (are you and bb starting something with this thread)?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Arrested? For providing free education? We already have free education, this is just extending it a bit. Hardly arrest worthy.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    If this is funded by anything other than lottery money, Obama should be arrested.

    Nice one LAst-12….FREE is Barry's American middle name.. Must have thought of this brilliant plan on the Golf course over the holidays in Hawaii chopping away. Can you believe with all the Golf this phony plays that he sucks at golf??? I mean if you and I are going to pay for all these rounds of golf and all the costs involved when Barry and the Boys want to tee it up, he should at least be a respectable Golfer….but no…he is a total hack!!! Freaking embarrassing for any American Golfer. I would have to give him 16 strokes him being a 26 handicapper…
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    PJfanwillneverleave1 wrote: »
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    If this is funded by anything other than lottery money, Obama should be arrested.

    Why?

    (are you and bb starting something with this thread)?

    There is enough lottery revenue to provide this service. That way, if I choose to support it, I can by buying a lottery ticket. It's absurd for me to pay more taxes so that people that wouldn't go to college anyway decide that their 650 SAT brains can clog up the classrooms simply because they aren't paying for it.

    I will concede that I have not researched any of this other than what was on that vine video. But I have a feeling I won't support this after reading the details.

    And no, bb and I did not discuss this prior to him posting this thread.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    PJfanwillneverleave1 wrote: »
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    If this is funded by anything other than lottery money, Obama should be arrested.

    Why?

    (are you and bb starting something with this thread)?

    There is enough lottery revenue to provide this service. That way, if I choose to support it, I can by buying a lottery ticket. It's absurd for me to pay more taxes so that people that wouldn't go to college anyway decide that their 650 SAT brains can clog up the classrooms simply because they aren't paying for it.

    I will concede that I have not researched any of this other than what was on that vine video. But I have a feeling I won't support this after reading the details.

    And no, bb and I did not discuss this prior to him posting this thread.

    That lottery explanation makes sense now. Pretty good idea actually.
    Where I come from lottery winnings aren't taxed.

    I would hope that this program persuades people to go to college. From what I gather this idea is not mandatory.



  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,676
    I believe in hard work. I believe in working for what you get and giving back through the work you do. But that said, this country has become so hugely pathetic as a result of the decline in education, the near disappearance of the teaching of critical thinking in our homes and schools, and the tendency for us to gravitate toward the lowest common denominator that my immediate reaction is, "Good! Free education in the U.S.? Heck yeah!" As long, of course, as that education incorporates things like creativity, expanding the mind, learning about other people perspectives, Socratic dialogue, debate, and critical thinking and is not just another way to train unthinking worker bees. (Not that I have anything against worker bees, mind you. Much of the time, I am one, but I try to be a thinking worker bee.)

    In other words, let's have more of this :bz /:) *-:)

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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited January 2015
    If we can spend $1 BILLION fucken dollars a day funding the shit called the Iraq invasion, then we can support an education system that allows those that WANT to and those that DONT have the needs to pay for an education. You know I normally don't agree with this Muslim president, but this idea mite be worth it.

    And so the fuck what, he sucks at golf. Big fucken deal. You think Georgie pourgie can play par? You think Georgie never took vacations? Man, how old are you Dan? Were you even old enough to know what was going on in the early 2000's when our great wise president was running around the world like a madman? I'm not saying 44 is the best but god damn, how in the world can anyone FORGET 2000-2008? Are we that fucken gullible?
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    2 years of extra basic level high school ...

    How about 2 years of trade schools? Then you can actually develop a skill that can put food on the table. About 99.99% of Americans have no idea how to change brake pads or hang a door.

    No employer gives two shits if you have 2 years of community college on your resume. Not even Taco Bell.
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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Jason P wrote: »
    2 years of extra basic level high school ...

    How about 2 years of trade schools? Then you can actually develop a skill that can put food on the table. About 99.99% of Americans have no idea how to change brake pads or hang a door.

    No employer gives two shits if you have 2 years of community college on your resume. Not even Taco Bell.

    I agree! At least with a trade skill option there's some hope at a future??? I did all my community credits in the last year of high school completed, AND I graduated two years early, through the GED.. Got the highest score of the year too! Do it's not exactly a necessary field into college or university. I went straight from HS, to UC Davis!

    So..,, I totally agree, that we shouldn't waste our "free" ( BS word by the way, nothing is FREE) education on the piddly let's pay thousands of dollars to 'finish' HS crap, and instead put it towards something where these kids are LEARNING SOMETHING USEFUL!
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Great idea about trade schools, and the lottery comments as well.

    I saw that a fairly low GPA is required (among other requisites). Isn't 2.0/2.5 considered C...as in mediocre?
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited January 2015
    You guys do know you can go to a 4 year college after attending 2 years community? I don't see whats wrong with this. And I'm sure they'll somehow connect the trade school and allow you to chose.
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    I also agree with Brian. We should work for this shit.. I worked three jobs for the two years I would have been in community college, to save for just the FIRST SEMESTER of my University! Then I picked up a GPA scholarship, and continued working to pay for the rest of it. My parents never paid anything for my education, cause they COULDN'T afford where I wanted to go. So I had to go do it.. I think that's something we're missing in today's society.. We take no for an answer waaaaay too easily these days..
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Granted my two degrees award me nothing.. Lol if I had known then, what I know now!!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,676
    Jason P wrote: »
    2 years of extra basic level high school ...

    How about 2 years of trade schools? Then you can actually develop a skill that can put food on the table. About 99.99% of Americans have no idea how to change brake pads or hang a door.

    No employer gives two shits if you have 2 years of community college on your resume. Not even Taco Bell.

    Great idea, Jason! Two years of trade school would help a heck of a lot of young people move toward finding good jobs.

    But I disagree about the two years of community college being worthless. For a number of years, I worked as program assistant in Human Services at our local community college. Students who completed the two year course received a Human Services Certificate and an Associated Arts degree, both of which open many doors for jobs in agencies like rehab centers, child protective services, elder care, our local Women's Center, Senior Daycare, and other social services jobs. I often run into some of these students in the bookstore and and great to see them doing well and working in jobs that help others- all because of there efforts to work through a two your community college program.

    I saw similar things happen when I worked at De Anza College Bookstore several years ago. That school has, among several other choices, a two year nursing program that has put a lot of people in a position to do great work.

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    -Roberto Benigni

  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    I am do remember Georgie's Days Bad Brains..
    Just to be clear I really can't stand all politicians, been around them my whole carrer. That's why I poke fun at them cause I think most are no good liars.
    Teaching the willing a trade/ skill is a much better idea than a 2 year community college degree...what does that get you???
    And by the way GW would absolutely smoke Barry and on course...he should just stick w/ basketball which by the way be sux at too. Was assigned to his security detail a few times over the years when he gets the b-ball playing brilliant political minds of Chicago togther for some "pick up" basketball. Or I should say, let Obama score games..I felt like I was watching a Dad teaching his young son the game and he lets his son Win. Anyhow, I will have some better material if Hilliary gets anointed..
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    The idea that you can work and pay your way through college nowadays is a little exaggerated. Yes it can be done at the cheapest schools, by the most motivated people, but life gets in the way for a lot of folks. Health troubles for oneself or family members, financial obligations outside of just paying tuition, job availability and demands, these things work together to make it nearly impossible to "put yourself through school".

    I support this measure, but only in absence of something better. Student loan reform and reigning in the ridiculous cost of university education are what we really need.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    brianlux wrote: »
    Jason P wrote: »
    2 years of extra basic level high school ...

    How about 2 years of trade schools? Then you can actually develop a skill that can put food on the table. About 99.99% of Americans have no idea how to change brake pads or hang a door.

    No employer gives two shits if you have 2 years of community college on your resume. Not even Taco Bell.

    Great idea, Jason! Two years of trade school would help a heck of a lot of young people move toward finding good jobs.

    But I disagree about the two years of community college being worthless. For a number of years, I worked as program assistant in Human Services at our local community college. Students who completed the two year course received a Human Services Certificate and an Associated Arts degree, both of which open many doors for jobs in agencies like rehab centers, child protective services, elder care, our local Women's Center, Senior Daycare, and other social services jobs. I often run into some of these students in the bookstore and and great to see them doing well and working in jobs that help others- all because of there efforts to work through a two your community college program.

    I saw similar things happen when I worked at De Anza College Bookstore several years ago. That school has, among several other choices, a two year nursing program that has put a lot of people in a position to do great work.
    I was a little harsh on my assessment of the value of community college.
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