Imagine being a Muslim and seeing your own religion do this to "your" own religion. Shit, towards any religion. Unreal, the world just keeps getting shittier and shittier.
Imagine being a Muslim and seeing your own religion do this to "your" own religion. Shit, towards any religion. Unreal, the world just keeps getting shittier and shittier.
Nart,the problem is fundamentalists.Not just Muslim,but all faiths.These zealots are idiots.The Christians,Jews,Muslims all have a disconnect between the everyday practicing person and the brainwashed psychopaths.Quit beating yourself up about it.This just goes to show that these filthy excuses for men will stoop to all levels to hit "soft"targets. Between ISIS and Taliban it's been a bad week for innocent people in vulnerable easy targets. This is exactly why this scourge needs to be exterminated.And for those who like to always counter with "well the west created this problem with its occupation and depleted uranium shells,blah,blah,blah.Give it a fucking break.We didn't cause these murderering low life scum to shoot up a cafe in Australlia and slaughter a school full of children (again).No apologists on this one please.There is no excuse for tolerating this behavior from any radical group.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
All seven of the attackers wore suicide bomb vests, he said.
Disgusting brainwashed idiots looking forward to 1,000 virgins or something like this in the 'afterlife'. Have fun decomposing after being duped ya morons.
This forum reads these things in disbelief, but we shouldn't be surprised. In general, the average human being is simply a really dumb and destructive animal. The 'less than average' human being is incapable of any enlightened thought that places value on things other than themselves... and are the most dumb and destructive animal.
If they had a brain... they'd be out on the street playing with it.
Imagine being a Muslim and seeing your own religion do this to "your" own religion. Shit, towards any religion. Unreal, the world just keeps getting shittier and shittier.
Nart,the problem is fundamentalists.Not just Muslim,but all faiths.These zealots are idiots.The Christians,Jews,Muslims all have a disconnect between the everyday practicing person and the brainwashed psychopaths.Quit beating yourself up about it.This just goes to show that these filthy excuses for men will stoop to all levels to hit "soft"targets. Between ISIS and Taliban it's been a bad week for innocent people in vulnerable easy targets. This is exactly why this scourge needs to be exterminated.And for those who like to always counter with "well the west created this problem with its occupation and depleted uranium shells,blah,blah,blah.Give it a fucking break.We didn't cause these murderering low life scum to shoot up a cafe in Australlia and slaughter a school full of children (again).No apologists on this one please.There is no excuse for tolerating this behavior from any radical group.
Well put.
Nart, we're all in this together, regardless of which deity - if any - you believe in. I assure you, I could give two shits about how one rationalizes the destruction of life: and especially of children, where you don't snuff out lives lived - you destroy potential. This is inexcusable and there is no torture horrific enough for what these criminally insane, deluded menaces deserve.
rr, I do have to say that I really hate the term 'apologist'. I don't think that anyone here - even those of us who are anti-interventionist (myself included) - think these atrocities are remotely justifiable. We all have the same goal: stop the madness. We just have different points of view in terms of how we get there.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I can't believe people are that fucked up. I wonder if it would be possible for people to completely forget about all religions for one week. The world would have one week of complete peace.
I can't believe people are that fucked up. I wonder if it would be possible for people to completely forget about all religions for one week. The world would have one week of complete peace.
Religion is a subset of something larger, which is freedom of self-expression. I suspect if you take away religion for a week, you'd see an uptick in nationalism related extremism. Until we actively seek diversity in personalities/beliefs/cultures, we are doomed to remain intolerant, indifferent, and abusive towards each other.
Edit: Also, if we crave the diversity, I think we'd see a paradigm shift from a desire to 'fit in' to a desire to 'fit out'. And if we're all looking for scenarios different from us, we stop caring about the 'collective' we live within, and the relevance of these collectives should dissipate naturally.
Nart and fuck have both mentioned here that Islam teaches the importance of recognizing diversity and the need for non-Muslims in the world: it's a shame that these extremist attacks are such a blatant betrayal of noble ideals.
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Imagine being a Muslim and seeing your own religion do this to "your" own religion. Shit, towards any religion. Unreal, the world just keeps getting shittier and shittier.
Nart,the problem is fundamentalists.Not just Muslim,but all faiths.These zealots are idiots.The Christians,Jews,Muslims all have a disconnect between the everyday practicing person and the brainwashed psychopaths.Quit beating yourself up about it.This just goes to show that these filthy excuses for men will stoop to all levels to hit "soft"targets. Between ISIS and Taliban it's been a bad week for innocent people in vulnerable easy targets. This is exactly why this scourge needs to be exterminated.And for those who like to always counter with "well the west created this problem with its occupation and depleted uranium shells,blah,blah,blah.Give it a fucking break.We didn't cause these murderering low life scum to shoot up a cafe in Australlia and slaughter a school full of children (again).No apologists on this one please.There is no excuse for tolerating this behavior from any radical group.
Well put.
Nart, we're all in this together, regardless of which deity - if any - you believe in. I assure you, I could give two shits about how one rationalizes the destruction of life: and especially of children, where you don't snuff out lives lived - you destroy potential. This is inexcusable and there is no torture horrific enough for what these criminally insane, deluded menaces deserve.
rr, I do have to say that I really hate the term 'apologist'. I don't think that anyone here - even those of us who are anti-interventionist (myself included) - think these atrocities are remotely justifiable. We all have the same goal: stop the madness. We just have different points of view in terms of how we get there.
Noted Ben. Anti interventionist?I like that.I will use that going forward.
Imagine being a Muslim and seeing your own religion do this to "your" own religion. Shit, towards any religion. Unreal, the world just keeps getting shittier and shittier.
Nart,the problem is fundamentalists.Not just Muslim,but all faiths.These zealots are idiots.The Christians,Jews,Muslims all have a disconnect between the everyday practicing person and the brainwashed psychopaths.Quit beating yourself up about it.This just goes to show that these filthy excuses for men will stoop to all levels to hit "soft"targets. Between ISIS and Taliban it's been a bad week for innocent people in vulnerable easy targets. This is exactly why this scourge needs to be exterminated.And for those who like to always counter with "well the west created this problem with its occupation and depleted uranium shells,blah,blah,blah.Give it a fucking break.We didn't cause these murderering low life scum to shoot up a cafe in Australlia and slaughter a school full of children (again).No apologists on this one please.There is no excuse for tolerating this behavior from any radical group.
Well put.
Nart, we're all in this together, regardless of which deity - if any - you believe in. I assure you, I could give two shits about how one rationalizes the destruction of life: and especially of children, where you don't snuff out lives lived - you destroy potential. This is inexcusable and there is no torture horrific enough for what these criminally insane, deluded menaces deserve.
rr, I do have to say that I really hate the term 'apologist'. I don't think that anyone here - even those of us who are anti-interventionist (myself included) - think these atrocities are remotely justifiable. We all have the same goal: stop the madness. We just have different points of view in terms of how we get there.
Noted Ben. Anti interventionist?I like that.I will use that going forward.
If you like it, it's yours, though now that I'm thinking about it, it might be the wrong term.
To be a true ideologue would require a proper and innate 'ranking' of ideologies - one of them being interventionism. I consider myself an ideologue, and since I hold certain ideologies in a higher regard than interventionism, I couldn't call myself an anti-interventionist 100% of the time (though mostly I find when I think longer term, an anti-interventionist opinion is aligned with my other more-preferred ideologies). I know this kind of thinking borders on robotic, but I guess it's my mildly OCD, system-obsessed mind that's produced it.
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But back on topic... this is all fucking horrible. I just wish I had anything valuable to add to the discussion but the more I hear about this, the more futile the situations seem.
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Humans are weak easily manipulated sheep. And though Gods are not the entire reason maybe if we just said " Look there are no Gods. There are no holy books" and just get it over with rather than pandering to human insecurity.
Boggles the mind how we allow this charade to continue.
Yes I realize this had little to do with religion but maybe leaders would have harder time recruiting once we took this ploy away. This post is not directed at only Muslims but all religions/gods.
fucking pathetic peices of shit these individuals to kill children like that all in the name of religion ....
retaliation. Their claim is this was done to strike back in the same way that Pakistan at our behest or backed by us has done to them. This school in particular as they were the children of soldiers in that fight to abolish the taliban.
What the US fails to see or arrogantly ignores is how peoples in the various regions we stick our nose in are likely to respond to us imposing our will to protect our "interests" . With peoples with revenge on their heart or nothing to lose otherwise , how can they really be defeated?
There is no way this stops. it only progresses to eventual annihilation of all peoples everywhere..
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
fucking pathetic peices of shit these individuals to kill children like that all in the name of religion ....
retaliation. Their claim is this was done to strike back in the same way that Pakistan at our behest or backed by us has done to them. This school in particular as they were the children of soldiers in that fight to abolish the taliban.
What the US fails to see or arrogantly ignores is how peoples in the various regions we stick our nose in are likely to respond to us imposing our will to protect our "interests" . With peoples with revenge on their heart or nothing to lose otherwise , how can they really be defeated?
There is no way this stops. it only progresses to eventual annihilation of all peoples everywhere..
I don't know. Bit less pessimistic. Maybe natural selection will save the species.
Humans are weak easily manipulated sheep. And though Gods are not the entire reason maybe if we just said " Look there are no Gods. There are no holy books" and just get it over with rather than pandering to human insecurity.
Boggles the mind how we allow this charade to continue.
Yes I realize this had little to do with religion but maybe leaders would have harder time recruiting once we took this ploy away. This post is not directed at only Muslims but all religions/gods.
Callen, I'd be curious to hear your response to what I suggested above, that religion would be replaced by the next most convenient self-serving divisive human characteristic (most likely nationalism, in my opinion).
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
fucking pathetic peices of shit these individuals to kill children like that all in the name of religion ....
retaliation. Their claim is this was done to strike back in the same way that Pakistan at our behest or backed by us has done to them. This school in particular as they were the children of soldiers in that fight to abolish the taliban.
What the US fails to see or arrogantly ignores is how peoples in the various regions we stick our nose in are likely to respond to us imposing our will to protect our "interests" . With peoples with revenge on their heart or nothing to lose otherwise , how can they really be defeated?
There is no way this stops. it only progresses to eventual annihilation of all peoples everywhere..
The Taliban originated in Pakistan and invaded Afghanistan in 1996. This goes far beyond US involvement. Same say as far back as several thousand years.
fucking pathetic peices of shit these individuals to kill children like that all in the name of religion ....
retaliation. Their claim is this was done to strike back in the same way that Pakistan at our behest or backed by us has done to them. This school in particular as they were the children of soldiers in that fight to abolish the taliban.
What the US fails to see or arrogantly ignores is how peoples in the various regions we stick our nose in are likely to respond to us imposing our will to protect our "interests" . With peoples with revenge on their heart or nothing to lose otherwise , how can they really be defeated?
There is no way this stops. it only progresses to eventual annihilation of all peoples everywhere..
The Taliban originated in Pakistan and invaded Afghanistan in 1996. This goes far beyond US involvement. Same say as far back as several thousand years.
from Afghan refugees. Wiki( I know) says something different too. From 50 at a madrasas taught by Mullah Omar.....either way it is comprised mainly of The Pashtun
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Humans are weak easily manipulated sheep. And though Gods are not the entire reason maybe if we just said " Look there are no Gods. There are no holy books" and just get it over with rather than pandering to human insecurity.
Boggles the mind how we allow this charade to continue.
Yes I realize this had little to do with religion but maybe leaders would have harder time recruiting once we took this ploy away. This post is not directed at only Muslims but all religions/gods.
Callen, I'd be curious to hear your response to what I suggested above, that religion would be replaced by the next most convenient self-serving divisive human characteristic (most likely nationalism, in my opinion).
Yeah have thought about this and almost didn't post my tirade because of it. So my thoughts are we also call out nationalism or any other controlling aspect. As with religion, have posted my thoughts on effective use of propaganda used by US and will continue to do so. "Evildoers" USA chant, pledge of allegiance, flyby' by military machine at sporting events. Just as bad as fighting for god. Yeah probably futile but as with Musky, feel better talking about it.
fucking pathetic peices of shit these individuals to kill children like that all in the name of religion ....
retaliation. Their claim is this was done to strike back in the same way that Pakistan at our behest or backed by us has done to them. This school in particular as they were the children of soldiers in that fight to abolish the taliban.
What the US fails to see or arrogantly ignores is how peoples in the various regions we stick our nose in are likely to respond to us imposing our will to protect our "interests" . With peoples with revenge on their heart or nothing to lose otherwise , how can they really be defeated?
There is no way this stops. it only progresses to eventual annihilation of all peoples everywhere..
The Taliban originated in Pakistan and invaded Afghanistan in 1996. This goes far beyond US involvement. Same say as far back as several thousand years.
from Afghan refugees. Wiki( I know) says something different too. From 50 at a madrasas taught by Mullah Omar.....either way it is comprised mainly of The Pashtun
Either, or ... Six dudes decided it was a great idea to strap bombs onto themselves and burst into a school with a "take no prisoners, take no shit, we die today, god is great" attitude. And their commanding force decided it would be a great idea to take such responsibility for it, with the caveat of " Hey, we told them to go for older students if possible, just say'n", as if that somehow justifies it.
That is an insane notion to 99.9999999% of anyone posting here including you and me. We try to make logic out of it. Thus we try to see how US policy figured into this. I understand where your point of view is coming from because we dabble in logic yet logic defies how such an event can occur. (I apologize if I'm off base).
If there is anything I've learned from AMT, the US has been poking their nose into every corner of the world, yet incidents like this are isolated to one region.
I don't accept the "Six degrees to Kevin Bacon" / "Uncle Sam's" fault as an acceptable theory for this madness.
fucking pathetic peices of shit these individuals to kill children like that all in the name of religion ....
retaliation. Their claim is this was done to strike back in the same way that Pakistan at our behest or backed by us has done to them. This school in particular as they were the children of soldiers in that fight to abolish the taliban.
What the US fails to see or arrogantly ignores is how peoples in the various regions we stick our nose in are likely to respond to us imposing our will to protect our "interests" . With peoples with revenge on their heart or nothing to lose otherwise , how can they really be defeated?
There is no way this stops. it only progresses to eventual annihilation of all peoples everywhere..
The Taliban originated in Pakistan and invaded Afghanistan in 1996. This goes far beyond US involvement. Same say as far back as several thousand years.
from Afghan refugees. Wiki( I know) says something different too. From 50 at a madrasas taught by Mullah Omar.....either way it is comprised mainly of The Pashtun
Either, or ... Six dudes decided it was a great idea to strap bombs onto themselves and burst into a school with a "take no prisoners, take no shit, we die today, god is great" attitude. And their commanding force decided it would be a great idea to take such responsibility for it, with the caveat of " Hey, we told them to go for older students if possible, just say'n", as if that somehow justifies it.
That is an insane notion to 99.9999999% of anyone posting here including you and me. We try to make logic out of it. Thus we try to see how US policy figured into this. I understand where your point of view is coming from because we dabble in logic yet logic defies how such an event can occur. (I apologize if I'm off base).
If there is anything I've learned from AMT, the US has been poking their nose into every corner of the world, yet incidents like this are isolated to one region.
I don't accept the "Six degrees to Kevin Bacon" / "Uncle Sam's" fault as an acceptable theory for this madness.
Three things.
1) I'd love to see the "Taliban Roadmap". My guess is that it exists, and is blatantly unconcerned with the gross violation of humanitarianism. It's also probably logical (though the end goals are probably unlikely, but we witness time and time again how 'faith' can amplify the perceived likelihood of something happening in spite of minuscule odds). 2) Incidents like this are not isolated to one region. We've seen this in the London bombings, in the Australian hostage situation, and in the 9/11 attacks. We witness it most in the Middle East likely because of the tremendous amount of corruption that goes beyond economic corruption, and into the realm of denying the masses of their basic human rights. 3) Just as some say it's America's fault, and other's say it isn't - my guess is both are correct. The US's involvement in foreign affairs is probably just one of numerous reasons for extremism in the region.
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The U.S. involvement will also be helpful in fighting back against this filth.Im pretty sure they just kicked a hornets nest.
I don't see the Pakastani Military or ISS sitting quit while the orginazation that killed their own children flourish.At one time I thought The Pakastanis were sympathetic to some of the Taliban and offered a bit of Dont ask don't tell.But now I think they pissed in their own soup.Stay tuned.
Quotes ain't working for some strange reason but this is in resposene to RR. I wonder if they allowed this to happen kind of like a turn the other cheek so they can get into this fight against the Taliban and garner support form Pakistani people? Idk, it's fucked up no matter what way we look at it.
Quotes ain't working for some strange reason but this is in resposene to RR. I wonder if they allowed this to happen kind of like a turn the other cheek so they can get into this fight against the Taliban and garner support form Pakistani people? Idk, it's fucked up no matter what way we look at it.
Over there I wouldn't doubt it.Ur right it's all FUBAR.
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Between ISIS and Taliban it's been a bad week for innocent people in vulnerable easy targets.
This is exactly why this scourge needs to be exterminated.And for those who like to always counter with "well the west created this problem with its occupation and depleted uranium shells,blah,blah,blah.Give it a fucking break.We didn't cause these murderering low life scum to shoot up a cafe in Australlia and slaughter a school full of children (again).No apologists on this one please.There is no excuse for tolerating this behavior from any radical group.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Disgusting brainwashed idiots looking forward to 1,000 virgins or something like this in the 'afterlife'. Have fun decomposing after being duped ya morons.
This forum reads these things in disbelief, but we shouldn't be surprised. In general, the average human being is simply a really dumb and destructive animal. The 'less than average' human being is incapable of any enlightened thought that places value on things other than themselves... and are the most dumb and destructive animal.
If they had a brain... they'd be out on the street playing with it.
It sucks.
Nart, we're all in this together, regardless of which deity - if any - you believe in. I assure you, I could give two shits about how one rationalizes the destruction of life: and especially of children, where you don't snuff out lives lived - you destroy potential. This is inexcusable and there is no torture horrific enough for what these criminally insane, deluded menaces deserve.
rr, I do have to say that I really hate the term 'apologist'. I don't think that anyone here - even those of us who are anti-interventionist (myself included) - think these atrocities are remotely justifiable. We all have the same goal: stop the madness. We just have different points of view in terms of how we get there.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Edit: Also, if we crave the diversity, I think we'd see a paradigm shift from a desire to 'fit in' to a desire to 'fit out'. And if we're all looking for scenarios different from us, we stop caring about the 'collective' we live within, and the relevance of these collectives should dissipate naturally.
Nart and fuck have both mentioned here that Islam teaches the importance of recognizing diversity and the need for non-Muslims in the world: it's a shame that these extremist attacks are such a blatant betrayal of noble ideals.
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Anti interventionist?I like that.I will use that going forward.
To be a true ideologue would require a proper and innate 'ranking' of ideologies - one of them being interventionism. I consider myself an ideologue, and since I hold certain ideologies in a higher regard than interventionism, I couldn't call myself an anti-interventionist 100% of the time (though mostly I find when I think longer term, an anti-interventionist opinion is aligned with my other more-preferred ideologies). I know this kind of thinking borders on robotic, but I guess it's my mildly OCD, system-obsessed mind that's produced it.
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Boggles the mind how we allow this charade to continue.
Yes I realize this had little to do with religion but maybe leaders would have harder time recruiting once we took this ploy away. This post is not directed at only Muslims but all religions/gods.
What the US fails to see or arrogantly ignores is how peoples in the various regions we stick our nose in are likely to respond to us imposing our will to protect our "interests" . With peoples with revenge on their heart or nothing to lose otherwise , how can they really be defeated?
There is no way this stops. it only progresses to eventual annihilation of all peoples everywhere..
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
interesting read here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtun_people
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
That is an insane notion to 99.9999999% of anyone posting here including you and me. We try to make logic out of it. Thus we try to see how US policy figured into this. I understand where your point of view is coming from because we dabble in logic yet logic defies how such an event can occur. (I apologize if I'm off base).
If there is anything I've learned from AMT, the US has been poking their nose into every corner of the world, yet incidents like this are isolated to one region.
I don't accept the "Six degrees to Kevin Bacon" / "Uncle Sam's" fault as an acceptable theory for this madness.
1) I'd love to see the "Taliban Roadmap". My guess is that it exists, and is blatantly unconcerned with the gross violation of humanitarianism. It's also probably logical (though the end goals are probably unlikely, but we witness time and time again how 'faith' can amplify the perceived likelihood of something happening in spite of minuscule odds).
2) Incidents like this are not isolated to one region. We've seen this in the London bombings, in the Australian hostage situation, and in the 9/11 attacks. We witness it most in the Middle East likely because of the tremendous amount of corruption that goes beyond economic corruption, and into the realm of denying the masses of their basic human rights.
3) Just as some say it's America's fault, and other's say it isn't - my guess is both are correct. The US's involvement in foreign affairs is probably just one of numerous reasons for extremism in the region.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
I don't see the Pakastani Military or ISS sitting quit while the orginazation that killed their own children flourish.At one time I thought The Pakastanis were sympathetic to some of the Taliban and offered a bit of Dont ask don't tell.But now I think they pissed in their own soup.Stay tuned.
Over there I wouldn't doubt it.Ur right it's all FUBAR.