Not all Cops are evil

JC29856

Can't make this shit up!

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/30/brandon_mckean_michigan_cop_stops_black_man_for_walking_with_hands_in_his.html

JC29856

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

JC29856 said:

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

This is the good cop thread.

These last two submission belong in the bad cop thread.

hedonist

This can't be posted elsewhere?

Most if not all here have acknowledged corruption exists and that yet, there are also stand-up people serving and protecting.

And if you've got ten grand burning a hole in your pocket, how about donating it for the sake of giving?

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

JC29856 said:

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

This is the good cop thread.

These last two submission belong in the bad cop thread.

It's a debate forum, there are going to be some dissenting views in any thread. Do people not defend cops in the bad cop thread?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

JC29856 said:

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

This is the good cop thread.

These last two submission belong in the bad cop thread.

It's a debate forum, there are going to be some dissenting views in any thread. Do people not defend cops in the bad cop thread?

Then debate.

Go after one of the posts that says cop 'X' was a good cop and debate such an assertion.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

hedonist said:

This can't be posted elsewhere?

Most if not all here have acknowledged corruption exists and that yet, there are also stand-up people serving and protecting.

And if you've got ten grand burning a hole in your pocket, how about donating it for the sake of giving?

He doesn't. Read between the lines: he spent one evening looking for his retainer and he spends many evenings- as he put it- over masturbating himself. He's likely an adolescent.

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

JC29856 said:

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

This is the good cop thread.

These last two submission belong in the bad cop thread.

It's a debate forum, there are going to be some dissenting views in any thread. Do people not defend cops in the bad cop thread?

Then debate.

Go after one of the posts that says cop 'X' was a good cop and debate such an assertion.

I'm not debating, just sticking up for JC to not be censored by anyone but the mods. Maybe this isn't the place you want to see these posts, but JC seems to think it is place where they will have an impact, let the mods maintain thread integrity...or not, fine by me either way! This isn't the good cop thread anyways, it's the not all cops are evil thread...that title is just asking for a rebuttal that says, "but some are" while the good cop thread is not so suggestive.

And, seriously, we can't have a thread for every individual good/bad cop case, just like we couldn't have a thread for every individual gun murder/defense case or every individual death penalty or not case.

JC29856

911 whats your emergency
caller:(in the eddie murphy white person voice) um yeah there is a black person walking around in our neighborhood and he looks suspicious
911: is he black? ......male?
caller:(in the eddie murphy white person voice) yes, walking down the street and IT'S hands are in IT'S pockets
911: can you describe what he is wearing
caller: (in the eddie murphy white person voice) black male, walking with ITS hands in his pockets, looking around, looks like IT is looking for something, black hooded winter coat, red hat, tan pants like work pants, (inaudible...thats strange?) no gloves, he just put his hands in his pockets
911: is this person black?
caller:(in the eddie murphy white person voice) real black, walking around, i see my neighbor looking at IT too from his window (inaudible...he looks like a demon! honey, its okay the cops are on their way...inaudible) the whole neighborhood is scared, please come right away
911: ok we will send officers, just to confirm a suspicious looking black male is walking in your neighborhood with his hands in his pockets looking around wearing a black hooded winter coat red hat and tan pants
caller: (in the eddie murphy white person voice) yes yes yes hurry!!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

JC29856 said:

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

This is the good cop thread.

These last two submission belong in the bad cop thread.

It's a debate forum, there are going to be some dissenting views in any thread. Do people not defend cops in the bad cop thread?

Then debate.

Go after one of the posts that says cop 'X' was a good cop and debate such an assertion.

I'm not debating, just sticking up for JC to not be censored by anyone but the mods. Maybe this isn't the place you want to see these posts, but JC seems to think it is place where they will have an impact, let the mods maintain thread integrity...or not, fine by me either way! This isn't the good cop thread anyways, it's the not all cops are evil thread...that title is just asking for a rebuttal, while the good cop thread is not.

And, seriously, we can't have a thread for every individual good/bad cop case, just like we couldn't have a thread for every individual gun murder/defense case or every individual death penalty or not case.

You wanna stick up for this last post of his?

And people wonder why they tire of this place?

Garbage.

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

JC29856 said:

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

This is the good cop thread.

These last two submission belong in the bad cop thread.

It's a debate forum, there are going to be some dissenting views in any thread. Do people not defend cops in the bad cop thread?

Then debate.

Go after one of the posts that says cop 'X' was a good cop and debate such an assertion.

I'm not debating, just sticking up for JC to not be censored by anyone but the mods. Maybe this isn't the place you want to see these posts, but JC seems to think it is place where they will have an impact, let the mods maintain thread integrity...or not, fine by me either way! This isn't the good cop thread anyways, it's the not all cops are evil thread...that title is just asking for a rebuttal, while the good cop thread is not.

And, seriously, we can't have a thread for every individual good/bad cop case, just like we couldn't have a thread for every individual gun murder/defense case or every individual death penalty or not case.

You wanna stick up for this last post of his?

And people wonder why they tire of this place?

Garbage.

I'd stick up for it a helluva lot sooner than I'd stick up for someone who calls the police cuz a black man has his hands in his pockets, or the cop who took it seriously.

rgambs

Don't be so righteous, you have suggested before that opponents of the death penalty want murderers to be house in luxury and all sorts of odd sarcastic accusations. Sarcasm happens. Move on. Garbage to you is truth to some and truth to you is garbage to others.

JC29856

sorry for the miscategorized posting.... i couldnt find the bad cop thread.
i dont think the cop is bad, just because he has preconceived notions doesnt make him bad or evil.
ill look for the bad cop thread and post it there.
i was going to start a new thread
Not all black guys walking in white neighborhoods with their hands in their pockets during winter are evil but the title was too long

benjs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

JC29856 said:

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

This is the good cop thread.

These last two submission belong in the bad cop thread.

It's a debate forum, there are going to be some dissenting views in any thread. Do people not defend cops in the bad cop thread?

Then debate.

Go after one of the posts that says cop 'X' was a good cop and debate such an assertion.

I'm not debating, just sticking up for JC to not be censored by anyone but the mods. Maybe this isn't the place you want to see these posts, but JC seems to think it is place where they will have an impact, let the mods maintain thread integrity...or not, fine by me either way! This isn't the good cop thread anyways, it's the not all cops are evil thread...that title is just asking for a rebuttal, while the good cop thread is not.

And, seriously, we can't have a thread for every individual good/bad cop case, just like we couldn't have a thread for every individual gun murder/defense case or every individual death penalty or not case.

You wanna stick up for this last post of his?

And people wonder why they tire of this place?

Garbage.

Thirty, rgambs is sticking up for JC's right to not be censored. Is it off-topic? Let people decide that for themselves: by condemning his post, all you've done (as you can see) is guaranteed that it lives on here for longer than it would've otherwise. You'll notice that plenty of JC's posts are outrageous and are therefore ignored. We all have the right and ability to ignore if we please, but he certainly has the right to speak if he does so fairly.

JC29856

cant find the bad cop thread... suggestions? i searched bad cop and nothing. again my apologies.
the $10,000 to charity offer still stands!

rgambs

JC29856 said:

cant find the bad cop thread... suggestions? i searched bad cop and nothing. again my apologies.
the $10,000 to charity offer still stands!

DO you have 10,000$ to give away or is this just posturing? Hedobot was right if you have it to give so freely perhaps you should without trying to prove a point. $100 or $1000 would have given your post more validity in my mind at least, that's an amount that I could see as a sacrifice a normal person might make to prove a point and help out...10K is crazy, you'd have to be richish and then one wonders why you wouldn't give more freely if one wishes to give at all.

benjs

rgambs said:

JC29856 said:

cant find the bad cop thread... suggestions? i searched bad cop and nothing. again my apologies.
the $10,000 to charity offer still stands!

DO you have 10,000$ to give away or is this just posturing? Hedobot was right if you have it to give so freely perhaps you should without trying to prove a point. $100 or $1000 would have given your post more validity in my mind at least, that's an amount that I could see as a sacrifice a normal person might make to prove a point and help out...10K is crazy, you'd have to be richish and then one wonders why you wouldn't give more freely if one wishes to give at all.

Here in Ontario, charitable donations yield a tax credit of about 40% of what you've given, so it's about a $6000 donation at that point (assuming you submit equal to or greater than the tax credit in taxes annually). Do the same incentives exist in the States for charitable donations?

dignin

JC29856 said:

cant find the bad cop thread... suggestions? i searched bad cop and nothing. again my apologies.
the $10,000 to charity offer still stands!

http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/235961/police-abuse#latest

JC29856

JC29856 said:

Can't make this shit up!

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/30/brandon_mckean_michigan_cop_stops_black_man_for_walking_with_hands_in_his.html

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

JC29856 said:

Since its the time of giving I will offer this...anyone who can find me a video or indisputable report of a Caucasian stopped and questioned by police for suspicion of walking with their hands in their pockets during the winter, I will donate $10,000 to a charity of your choice. Its always better to give then to receive!

This is the good cop thread.

These last two submission belong in the bad cop thread.

It's a debate forum, there are going to be some dissenting views in any thread. Do people not defend cops in the bad cop thread?

Then debate.

Go after one of the posts that says cop 'X' was a good cop and debate such an assertion.

I'm not debating, just sticking up for JC to not be censored by anyone but the mods. Maybe this isn't the place you want to see these posts, but JC seems to think it is place where they will have an impact, let the mods maintain thread integrity...or not, fine by me either way! This isn't the good cop thread anyways, it's the not all cops are evil thread...that title is just asking for a rebuttal, while the good cop thread is not.

And, seriously, we can't have a thread for every individual good/bad cop case, just like we couldn't have a thread for every individual gun murder/defense case or every individual death penalty or not case.

You wanna stick up for this last post of his?

And people wonder why they tire of this place?

Garbage.

My 911 spoof made reference to these facts

1. DW referred to MB in his testimony as "IT"
2. The Tamir Rice 911 dispatcher asked the caller 3 times, if the person was black

Drowned Out

Questions:
How do we define a good cop vs a bad one?
Is it based on whether they're doing their jobs (upholding the law, enforcing it, leading by example)....or by individual 'good' actions?
Because if you want to measure how 'good' a cop is by their own actions....and you say that 'x'% of cops are actually 'good' because they are not corrupt and do not use excessive violence against the public etc....then what happens to those percentages or to that opinion when you factor in SILENCE and inaction when witnessing said corruption and violence among their peers? I guar-an-fucking-tee you that the percentage of cops that turn a blind eye to their colleague's indiscretions would approach 100%.

This is the kind of thing that pisses me off about police....yes, they take orders and enforce the law before them. But how often does the system encourage them to only enforce these laws against the powerless?
How often do we see politicians go down for petty crimes, let alone serious ones?
How often do we hear of cops arresting another cop for excessive force? Or for handing someone a criminal record for selling drugs while pocketing half the proceeds (and drugs) at the scene?
We see police violently removing people for a sit-in protest, yet they allow people to camp out outside fucking Best Buy for a week for a new phone?

It's all f'd up. I read the other day that you require more hours of training to be a hairstylist in California, than you do to become a cop. Or the NY court of appeals ruling that an police recruit was not discriminated against when he was told he was too smart to be a cop.

If you follow pages like Cop Block (and the many local versions), and Filming Cops, or visit sites like Freethoughtproject, you are bombarded with never-ending stories of police corruption and brutality. The majority of this shit never makes national news, at least not in any significant way. I don't follow these personally, but have a friend who shares two or three stories from these pages a day, and it is eye opening to say the least.